Gran Turismo 7 Review - A Legacy of Love on Display

[NYJin2011tm]

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Well it was just the first time that it was unskippable. I believe before you get to options menu? Unless you can do it on initial setup?

[Speedy]

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Enjoying the game, as I have every real (not you GT Sport) entry of this series since the first one 25 years ago. It does have it's issues though.

I have several negatives to mention, but overall the game is fun.

I definitely get the frustration with the grind, but that's kind of what GT is. I do agree that I don't enjoy driving around a 140hp hybrid, but it does give a sense of progression that you don't get in a game like Forza where you can very quickly get into exotic cars. That progression has always made me appreciate each new step up the ladder of performance. I do think it's probably a bit TOO grindy though. Doing races to get 3 Japanese compact cars, then 3 old European compacts, then 3 Japanese FR cars...I think that this was a bit too much.

Where the grind really hurts though is with the game's difficulty. Other than getting golds on all the licenses, nothing about the early stages of the game are remotely challenging. Other than spending about an hour in GT Sport last year, I have not touched a Sony racing game in 8 years. I immediately turned off all assists and I put the AI difficulty on hard. I'm still winning 2 lap races by 10-20 seconds though. Which kind of exasperates the slow build up problem because you feel like you're just going through the motions in driving a Honda Fit.


The game sounds great. I love the soundtracks in the various menus and the sound of the mufflers in races.

Weather effects are pretty cool.

As always this is a game about car collecting, and there looks to be a pretty decent list. However, it's also a pretty disappointing list, much less than both it's mainline prequel and it's direct competitor. Noticeably absent are a lot of newer models like the Porsche 911 (992) and C8 Corvettes. Maybe some of these will come in future downloads, but these are premium packs then I'll be pretty angry given both increased price (PS5) and how it compares to other iterations. The one plus side about it missing some of the newer models is that we don't see any of the BMW redesigns when they ruined the kidney grilles. So, it's not to not have that eye sore in the game.

It's baffling that you can't skip the opening intro. I nearly fell asleep.

Lack of car damage is a huge turnoff. I don't understand how Forza is able to get licensing to allow it but GT can't. The biggest problem is how it impacts the races. It's almost like playing Gran Turismo on the PS1 where you were actually better off using the wall to help you turn in some instances because there was no penalty.

Graphics are both solid and underwhelming at the same time. Cars look great in the menus. I just kind of hoped the tracks would look a little better. I'm assuming this is because they built the game while still keeping the PS4 in mind, but that's just my guess.

Nice review KSU.

I've been wanting a racing game for years. Do you use controller or a wheel? Also, what is replayability in your opinion?

[jb12780]

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Well it was just the first time that it was unskippable. I believe before you get to options menu? Unless you can do it on initial setup?

You can also press circle as well.


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[DarthRambo]

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My psn is DarthRambo317 so add me if you are interested and want to race.

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[KSUowls]

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Nice review KSU.

I've been wanting a racing game for years. Do you use controller or a wheel? Also, what is replayability in your opinion?

I use a controller and it's great. You can also use the PS5's controller as a racing wheel and it seemed to work pretty well. I haven't tested out on a track with sharp turns, but it did seem pretty responsive in limited testing. I do think that the controller's joystick is the superior method though.

I have a wheel that I could try out (Logitech G29), but I was so unimpressed with it's performance in Forza (PC) that I don't think I'll ever try a racing wheel again.

I am not far enough in the game to really talk about replayability yet, but based on prior experiences in this game as well as in Forza I'll say this.

I do not play online, and so I can't speak to how that impacts things. To me though these games really come down to 2 things. Collecting cars and putting them on the track, upgrading & tuning them to get as much performance as possible.

Eventually I'll finish the car collecting aspect, at least from the standpoint of acquiring all the cars that I actually want to have, and that will just leave racing the tracks. Eventually no longer having the goal of acquiring new cars (since I already have them all) makes me less motivated to do the races. They are still fun, but I'm no longer progressing towards anything. On the plus side, the game does have some wear & tear system. So, if you use a car in multiple races then you will need to do a tuneup or else it will lose some performance. I don't think that it's going to be a huge drain on your funds, but it is a nice little touch to still give money some value at the end game (though again probably not much). Basically though, what inevitably happens in these games is that I will eventually get to a point where I will just come back to the game off and on to mess around with some of my favorite cars, but that's it.

That all probably sounds more depressing than it actually is. From what I can tell so far, there plenty of content to cover you for a plenty lengthy amount of time if that is your thing. Eventually you do get a point of diminishing returns though.

[JMD]

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I did a lot of complaining in my previous post and I stand by it. I believe we should have the option to do the career or just set up custom races with any car on any track right at the start.

However once I hit menu book I think it was 14 or 15 it got much better , faster cars ,an extra lap or two added on to the races. Now I'm on menu book 33 and the game is amazing. I've got 94% of things unlocked and once you get to this point you begin to understand the thinking behind the way this game is set up.
There are still things I'd do differently to make progressing through the game a bit smoother ,but that's me.

The races I've been having since hitting the menu books in the 20's have been amazing. I've had several races in which the lead changed hands between myself and the A.I. several times on the final lap. Several races came down to me passing the A.I. on the final turn then having to block them from trying to pass me to the finish line. Just amazing nail biting races. I'm really looking forward to setting up my custom races and going against this improved A.I. It's going to be fantastic. I usually run 30 lap races with tire wear and fuel consumption on , so pit strategy comes in to play.

This game is easily the best console racer to date in my opinion. I've got 24 hours into it so far and I'll be finishing up the menu books today. then I'll finish up the license tests and mission to get the rewards.

Once you put in the time this game has a lot to offer ,now I really need to get a PS5.

Also someone asked about time attack mode , it's there , when you select a location / track it's right at the bottom of the screen.

[jwilphl]

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is it true there is no car damage

Yes it is true, but (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) there's never been car damage in a Gran Turismo game. I've been playing them since the original (skipping a few in-between) and at this point, I think, it has to be a design choice. It's a bit less to deal with in terms of maintenance and GT really loves to indulge in the auto aesthetic.

It does feel a bit odd now that we're in advanced tech territory, but to me it's not a huge deal. I've come to expect it with GT.

I've not played FH5 so I can't compare the two. GT is definitely much more pure simulator than arcade racer, however. That's the perspective with which one should approach this game. It's to feel like you're driving these cars for real with precisely tuned physics for each vehicle.

As others have said, it's about collecting and progressing and simply enjoying the cars for what they are. In many ways this is a love story made by people that appreciate literally everything about cars and racing.

[jrnlgrn]

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I see it the same way people view FromSoftware and the lack of difficulty options in the Souls games. Maybe Polyphony Digital doesn't want damage and the license tests are integral to their vision. Both companies are making the games they want and have dedicated and loyal fans that comeback time after time. So apparently it's working out for them.

Given how detailed Polyphony Digital have always been they would probably want accurate damage models for each car. Then we'd get a game every 10 years if we're lucky. Lol

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[KSUowls]

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If it's a design choice then I'd say it's a poor one when it claims to be a driving simulator. Damage and racing are intrinsically tied together. In a simulation experience then you should be punished for running into a wall or another car by more than just a temporary slow down. It also would have played better into the wear & tear system that the game has, making you really dig into your pockets if you have a bad race. It has never been a deal breaker for me (in part because when GT 1 & 2 came out there weren't any other games like it for a car enthusiast), but it's always been a sore spot.

The more I play this game, the more disappointed I become in the graphics. That isn't to say that this game doesn't have some remarkable graphics in certain instances, but there are just some details that seem to have been forgotten about. I remember an instance where the game played a cutscene of a busy metropolitan scene, and it looked like it could have come from the early days of the PS3. There was absolutely no care given to the video of random cars and trucks on the road. They looked like boxes with wheels. The scene was altogether unnecessary too. If they removed that and others like it then I probably wouldn't have much to complain about graphics wise.

[Speedy]

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I'm very tempted to get this game. I just dont want to spend almost $100 on a game that I'll be done with after and never touch 50 HRs.

[520racer]

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So, I am a veteran GT Player myself. Here's some of my takeaways so far.

The Good

1. Graphics are pretty good on the PS4, despite me having only a 1080P HD TV.
2. The world map bringing back GT4 vibes, is always a good thing for old school people like me.
3. The return of tuning parts is a very welcome sign of relief for many people.
4. Performance points are your best friend, make sure you use it to your advantage!
5. If you do use the launch edition pre-order bonuses, it makes the experience less brutal in the beginning. 100,000 CR on top of the 20,000 CR starting budget means that you will NOT be forced to start out with a loser economy car! FYI, I bought a used Nissan 350Z as the first car!

The Bad

1. Even on the Hard AI setting, there were not that many times that I was actually pushed that much in terms of raw pace. The most obvious one was the truck race at Daytona Oval, but there were some other minor ones in there as well.
2. Wet weather races on Sports Tires can be quite brutal at times, so prepare yourself accordingly when they come up.
3. The ending scene is nothing special in my opinion.

The Ugly

1. Speaking of getting to the ending scene, it was reached way quicker than I was originally hoping for. Has anyone else on here got to it yet?
2. They feature a little bit too much of the FIA GTS drivers as AI opponents for my taste. Whatever happened to the randomly generated AI names from GT5?
3. I only bought a total of six cars for the duration of the "cafe" section, is that typical?

In conclusion, it was better than GT5/6/S but as far as matching GT2/3/4 levels of greatness, I will give it more time before I make a final judgement on that.

[AUChase]

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I have really been enjoying my time with the game so far. I think the driving is really fun and they did a good job utilizing the PS5 dual sense controller. I usually hate adaptive triggers and turn it off for shooters or sports games but it works well for racing. If you turn ABS off the feeling of brakes pulsing or locking up feels like you're driving a car that needs some brake rotors.

I like the idea of the Café but I don't care about racing a 1965 Mini Cooper or those similar races. The game is just holds your hand a little too much for me and I think the audience for GT is very narrow. It's not really a game someone is going to buy without knowing what it is.

While I understand some of the best cars in the world are manufactured in Europe I think they miss an opportunity to show case some American brand cars that could be utilized in early game stuff like the Chevy Cobalt SS SC/TC, SRT4 Dodge Neon, etc.

For this to be heavily influenced by Japanese developers I also found the lack of Nissan Skyline, Silvia, 180, 240, etc. to be a little odd. I just don't think the car selection is that impressive. I lived in Japan for about 4 years though so my expectations for Japanese cars may be a little high. Admittedly I don't understand how licensing works though.

Anyways... overall I'm happy with the purchase. I'm sure they will DLC us to death down the road for cars. If anyone wants to add me on PSN feel free (AUCHASE__). I've enjoyed seeing how my license times stack up with some OS people. My goal is just to be faster than Bob.

[Lieutenant Dan]

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Chase I'm sure the car roster will grow over time like it did for GT Sport.

I'm just tickled to be outpacing Kollars times/trophies on most of the licenses lol. Such little joys add up in my sad life.

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[Hooe]

Gran Turismo 7 Review - A Legacy of Love on Display

If you all want to feel better about yourselves in the license tests, time trials, and lap times, my PlayStation 5 PSN ID is CMHooe. Feel free to add me to improve your morale. :-)

GT7 is the first simulation racing game I’ve played in a while, and I’m still getting used to the controller finesse such games demand. I’m slowly improving but until I am fully back on the horse I am cannon fodder lol.

[Cpre5]

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Has anyone figured out where the Shelby Cobra or Gt 350 ‘65 are located? You can obviously drive the Cobra in the music mission, and under collections you can see both cars.