Official PS3 Discussion Part III...

[mgoblue]

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Wow, lol, don't know how I messed that up.

Maybe, I think last year they were hoping funding for this project would be supported by partners that would be showing advertisements in Home. I think difficulty finding the right parters might have been one of the reasons for delays.

I'm sure they will get a lot of funding from that. Probably more so than MS because of the virtual world Home will be. Maybe that is one reason they are keeping it free.

Or Sony's been bagging on MS charging for Live for years and the corporate mindset won't allow them to start charging for online services because that would be admitting they were wrong.

[Altimus]

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Or Sony's been bagging on MS charging for Live for years and the corporate mindset won't allow them to start charging for online services because that would be admitting they were wrong.

What makes great business leaders is admitting to mistakes and finding a solution.

There is no sense in doing anything until Home hits. But if Home is a major dissapointment and is still behind that of what XBL offers gaming wise, it will be either time to bring in a new IT team for online support or starting gather more resources to upgrade the system whether it be charging customers money or getting those resources from Sony.

Since both of us are in the IT world, we both know how hard it is to get extra funding for IT support. No matter how big the need is.

[mgoblue]

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What makes great business leaders is admitting to mistakes and finding a solution.

There is no sense in doing anything until Home hits. But if Home is a major dissapointment and is still behind that of what XBL offers gaming wise, it will be either time to bring in a new IT team for online support or starting gather more resources to upgrade the system whether it be charging customers money or getting those resources from Sony.

Since both of us are in the IT world, we both know how hard it is to get extra funding for IT support. No matter how big the need is.

I agree, but how could Sony release a new system without even knowing about Home? A new system is a chance for a new strategy...Home screams of desperation for me, and now I'm even wondering if it's going to pay off. Is it still going to be Second Life type stuff? I know some people are hardcore into that, but I don't know...

[Altimus]

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I agree, but how could Sony release a new system without even knowing about Home? A new system is a chance for a new strategy...Home screams of desperation for me, and now I'm even wondering if it's going to pay off. Is it still going to be Second Life type stuff? I know some people are hardcore into that, but I don't know...

From the videos I have seen they pretty much took everything XBL has and made it virtual. Achievements, messaging, even in game invites.

Question is, is it necessary? Is all this hard work really going to make the difference. As a hardcore gamer, I would have been fine with a simple service like XBL on PSN.

http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=8863

Here is a video of how the game invites will work in Home presented by the lead guy of Home.

I'll say this, it is pretty neat. But necessary?

[mgoblue]

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From the videos I have seen they pretty much took everything XBL has and made it virtual. Achievements, messaging, even in game invites.

Question is, is it necessary? Is all this hard work really going to make the difference. As a hardcore gamer, I would have been fine with a simple service like XBL on PSN.

http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=8863

Here is a video of how the game invites will work in Home presented by the lead guy of Home.

I'll say this, it is pretty neat. But necessary?

It just sucks that the functionality we want is being held up so we can wear Adidas shoes and American Eagle t-shirts in our virtual world. I love Adidas, but I don't care what my avatar wears. I guess for me the online functionality is so unintuitive (well, not as bad as Nintendo, but we won't go there)...They've had this in the works for at least a year and a half now, there's no excuse.

I catch crap at work when I miss deadlines...Hell, as a group we had a project get screwed up and slip a couple months...people get yelled at. Home has just slipped way too far. I know they're locked into a full launch, but couldn't they have just put the functionality in there as "Home 1.0" and then added on the visual avatar aspect?

Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm sure people at Sony were way too enamored with the clothing aspects, somewhat similar to the visor or sock color guys here. My guess is that people told them it could be done in a year and went oops. The consumer therefore suffers, but oh well.

Hopefully Home actually works....I'm cautiously optimistic, even though Sony has never given me any reason to believe in their online strategies. They had years to prep for the PS3, we should have had Home at launch if that was the direction they wanted to go.

[Altimus]

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It just sucks that the functionality we want is being held up so we can wear Adidas shoes and American Eagle t-shirts in our virtual world. I love Adidas, but I don't care what my avatar wears. I guess for me the online functionality is so unintuitive (well, not as bad as Nintendo, but we won't go there)...They've had this in the works for at least a year and a half now, there's no excuse.

I catch crap at work when I miss deadlines...Hell, as a group we had a project get screwed up and slip a couple months...people get yelled at. Home has just slipped way too far. I know they're locked into a full launch, but couldn't they have just put the functionality in there as "Home 1.0" and then added on the visual avatar aspect?

Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm sure people at Sony were way too enamored with the clothing aspects, somewhat similar to the visor or sock color guys here. My guess is that people told them it could be done in a year and went oops. The consumer therefore suffers, but oh well.

Hopefully Home actually works....I'm cautiously optimistic, even though Sony has never given me any reason to believe in their online strategies. They had years to prep for the PS3, we should have had Home at launch if that was the direction they wanted to go.

I agree. It amazes me that they didn't have anything to counter XBL when the system launched. XBL on the original Xbox was more advanced than PSN on the PS3.

It also amazes XMB wasn't implemented at launch. We know it exists because videos dated back to early 06 show it in action in video games on the PS3. So what the hell happened with that... support was thrown else where. My assumption here is Sony threw resources at the HD format perspective of the PS3 instead of the gaming division.

As far as XMB, independent developers such as Ubisoft are making their own XMB for their games because of the lack of Sony stepping up to the plate.

I do agree with you, delays aren't acceptable; especially in IT. Even if something isn't complete, you release it and patch it later as long as it has the basics as required. You build something as planned. You don't build something and continuing adding new features as you go because it will never get finished. Unfortunately Sony wants to release a bug free product with every feature possible. As the SCE president said himself, Home will be released when I'm pleased; they need something and they can't afford another delay. This thing techincally won't be released officially till 2009. Fall will still be a beta, an open beta but still a beta which doesn't make it complete. Shown in 07, released in 09 and all it really is is an online application.

Even people like Peter Moore are yelling release Home already. Consumers, developers, everyone is losing their patience.

[Altimus]

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PS Video Store coming?

[nastyshoes69]

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need help! just got a ps3 and componetnet cables, turn on the show and now have a black streek going down my tv, its just one little line and its the only one thats out currently....my other hd vid work fine (like the one for my tv, theres no streek) just one part of the tv has the line....help me!? thx

[TheTruth916]

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just got the HDMI cable that I order yesterday and boy what a difference..I am almost certain ps3 now looks better then my 360!.Which isn't right because I am not a fan of sony at all.

ps. MLB THE SHOW 08 looks awesome in Hi Def!

[nastyshoes69]

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need help! just got a ps3 and componetnet cables, turn on the show and now have a black streek going down my tv, its just one little line and its the only one thats out currently....my other hd vid work fine (like the one for my tv, theres no streek) just one part of the tv has the line....help me!? thx

hmm now it seems that its on my tv all the time....Has anyone had this hapen to them??? that is the ps3 putting a black line on your tv, i have an lcd.

[The Chef]

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hmm now it seems that its on my tv all the time....Has anyone had this hapen to them??? that is the ps3 putting a black line on your tv, i have an lcd.

Could be intereference I suppose. Try getting a 3 prong to 2 prong adapter for the plug in on the PS3 or TV for that matter but more the PS3, it could be a ground loop thats causing it. I had a very similar problem as yours when I first had the PS3 and this fixed it for me, so it could be it.

[Altimus]

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Being rumored that trophies will be part of the 2.40 update next month. 2D trophies in the XMB like achievements. 3D ones will come once Home does.

Thing is, developers won't get the 2.40 SDK till late June so we still won't see them for a while I'm sure.

[fishepa]

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That would be sweet.

[Mintsa]

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Being rumored that trophies will be part of the 2.40 update next month. 2D trophies in the XMB like achievements. 3D ones will come once Home does.

Thing is, developers won't get the 2.40 SDK till late June so we still won't see them for a while I'm sure.

How about some in game XMB for 2.40. Im getting really sick and tired of waiting for that feature.

[rspencer86]

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How about some in game XMB for 2.40. Im getting really sick and tired of waiting for that feature.

QFT. How is this feature not live yet? Quit releasing weekly minor Blu-Ray functionality updates and fix your crappy interface, Sony.