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[spit_bubble]

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...the 360 was specifically built from day one with Xbox Live in mind...

But it wasn't built specifically for this type of thing. The technology is entirely different.

The greatest hurdle these guys will have is the quality of broadband. Though they said in the presentation that they've talked with ISPs about ensuring smooth connections, I just wonder if they (the ISPs) are willing and able to make sure there isn't any congestion.

I currently have a fast connection, advertised at 6Mbps, and yet it usually hovers around 2 or 3 during the day... Even fluctuating below 1 at times. So I just wonder what incentive ISPs are going to have to make the network better and lag free.

I get the sense that initially you're going to need a 15Mbps or higher connection to gt this service to run without problems... And even then I'm sure there will be times when it doesn't run completely smooth.

But like I said before, these guys would be totally foolish to start this up at a time they couldn't get it done. Considering their resume, and their lack of any real competition with this, I think they'll do just fine.

[KG]

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Yeah I hear you, I agree with you on everything you say, I can see this at some point taking hold but changing how people think is such a slow process that really can't be rushed. They really have to have a REASON to do so. This will have to be cheap, really cheap and offer more than what you'd get for the same tried-and-true buy a console, bring it home, plug-n-play model. If it's the same or more expensive it will die quickly.


And to compare it to the more conventional comparison, on-demand movies, it makes my point. A lot of folks, including myself, don't use on-demand on their cable boxes because the movie prices are too high. Why pay $6 for an on-demand that you get for 24 hours or whatever when you can pay $4 at Blockbuster and keep the movie for a week and watch it wherever and whenever you want? The business model makes no sense. If the same movie however was 99 cents on demand I might buy it because then they have given me a reason to change my buying habits.

Just putting out new technology and saying to the public "here is something new, use it" doesn't work, you have to give them a reason to change.

Where do you live at the On-Demand movies are $6? Mine are $4.95 for HD quality.

Sometimes creating the demand puts the wheels of change in motion.

[ODogg]

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Where do you live at the On-Demand movies are $6? Mine are $4.95 for HD quality.

Sometimes creating the demand puts the wheels of change in motion.

Ohio. And again, i'm not saying this won't work, just not for another 10 years. Internet won't be fast enough for most folks to use this for quite a while.

[techhokies]

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Haven't heard anything new about this in a while. I checked their site and it says winter 09 for release, so hopefully the beta is going good and it launches soon.

[Flawless]

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OnLive On For June

In a talk given at GDC this morning, OnLive's Steve Perlman announced that the OnLive Game Service will go live on June 17, provided you live in the continental US. The base level of subscription service will run $14.95, with potential discounts for people willing to sign up for a multi-month subscription. That subscription doesn't include the actual rental or purchase of games, which will cost extra.

As for publisher support, OnLive is set to have games from THQ, 2K, Ubisoft, EA, and WBIE. The service is expecting to have somewhere between 12 and 25 games available at launch, and some of the included titles are Mass Effect 2, Assassin's Creed II, and Borderlands.

[ODogg]

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Will they have free trials?? I'm not signing up for even $14.95 just to play it and find out it's worthless.

[23]

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I was trying to find info on this thing a couple of weeks ago

I only saw that it was in beta but noone I know got in for the most past

I really wonder how this is going to work out.. im sceptical

[Altimus]

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Sounds terrible.

$14.95 + a fee for renting the game.

Okay, why don't I just pay a little more per month and get as many rentals as I want per month from GF while having 2 out at the same time. Hmm...

[ODogg]

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The 14.95 doesn't include games? WTF that's awful...

[23]

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lol

Needless to say it is probably a bad way to start... let alone noone knows if this crap will even work yet

[bjf1377]

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http://www.onlive.com/special1

3 months free to the first 25,000

[bkfount]

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The 14.95 doesn't include games? WTF that's awful...

pretty much...

even if you purchase games, you will most likely only have access to them as long as you are paying the $15 a month.

[ODogg]

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Well I argued earlier in the thread that the technology wouldn't work....but it appears that even if it does the financial side of it isn't going to work. I can completely see a $14.95 a month price point IF the games aren't also a charge to play. As someone said, if you charge for the games as well you're then getting into a much higher price point than the online rental places like Gamefly. So once you do that it goes from being a service that provides gaming in a new way for a good deal to a service that simply provides gaming for convenience.

Most consumers are going to be hard pressed to try out something so different, let alone when it ends up costing more money than what they can find through a traditional outlet. Looks like this is heading toward a FAIL. Maybe we'll see something like this that can be worthwhile though 5 to 7 years down the road..

[23]

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pretty much...

even if you purchase games, you will most likely only have access to them as long as you are paying the $15 a month.

Yeah if it hasnt already thats going to come up

That's like charging people a fee per month to walk into gamestop to purchase a game LOL!!!

[Altimus]

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Well I argued earlier in the thread that the technology wouldn't work....but it appears that even if it does the financial side of it isn't going to work. I can completely see a $14.95 a month price point IF the games aren't also a charge to play. As someone said, if you charge for the games as well you're then getting into a much higher price point than the online rental places like Gamefly. So once you do that it goes from being a service that provides gaming in a new way for a good deal to a service that simply provides gaming for convenience.

Most consumers are going to be hard pressed to try out something so different, let alone when it ends up costing more money than what they can find through a traditional outlet. Looks like this is heading toward a FAIL. Maybe we'll see something like this that can be worthwhile though 5 to 7 years down the road..

The only reason I would use this service if I was on the road a lot so I can play on my Mac. That's about it.