Re: Wii U Discussion

[Pete1210]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012?

And either MS or Sony will give us some news of their new console at E3 2012, before Wii U is here.

PS. mods - any chance of taking the "?" off the heading of the OP.

[bkfount]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012

The thing about the Wii U's graphical power is that they seem to be proud of have a more powerful console than consoles that came out 6 and years ago. Based on what we know of the hardware in the Wii U, it looks like Sony and MS's new consoles will probably blow the Wii U out of the water in terms of hardware which could mean that Nintendo will have similar third party issues as they do this generation once the new consoles from MS and Sony come out.

Not really.

It'll be easier to scale next gen games down to the Wii U than it was with putting 360/ps3 games on the Wii. At launch, the wii's cpu was based on like 9 years old tech and the gpu was based on the Flipper chip used in the gamecube. Now, devs will be able to use the same modern tools and engines they do for ps3/360 games.

Regardless of power, I do think it puts Nintendo in a dreamcast position though. They'll have to convince core gamers to leave their achievements, trophies, friends, and online services to give the Wii U a shot when the next playstation and xbox aren't far off. MS will also be there with kinect to tempt the same wii owners Nintendo hopes to upgrade for HD motion gaming. MS will undoubtedly have the price advantage there, and may choose to have a $199 kinect arcade bundle this holiday, a full year before the Wii U launches.

[mestevo]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012

Not really.

It'll be easier to scale next gen games down to the Wii U than it was with putting 360/ps3 games on the Wii. At launch, the wii's cpu was based on like 9 years old tech and the gpu was based on the Flipper chip used in the gamecube. Now, devs will be able to use the same modern tools and engines they do for ps3/360 games.

Regardless of power, I do think it puts Nintendo in a dreamcast position though. They'll have to convince core gamers to leave their achievements, trophies, friends, and online services to give the Wii U a shot when the next playstation and xbox aren't far off. MS will also be there with kinect to tempt the same wii owners Nintendo hopes to upgrade for HD motion gaming. MS will undoubtedly have the price advantage there, and may choose to have a $199 kinect arcade bundle this holiday, a full year before the Wii U launches.

The controller scheme is funky with the Wii vs other consoles too, unless they release a more traditional controller. Many are going to be using Wiimotes and nunchucks still with only 1 of the touch controllers per system.

News this morning is that it will not play Blu-Ray (no surprise) OR DVDS (what?). They don't want to pay licensing costs for either, and think people have enough options already. Not really all that surprising, but disappointing because it means we likely won't get to see some creative use of the touch controller with movies.

[DickDalewood]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012

The controller scheme is funky with the Wii vs other consoles too, unless they release a more traditional controller. Many are going to be using Wiimotes and nunchucks still with only 1 of the touch controllers per system.

News this morning is that it will not play Blu-Ray (no surprise) OR DVDS (what?). They don't want to pay licensing costs for either, and think people have enough options already. Not really all that surprising, but disappointing because it means we likely won't get to see some creative use of the touch controller with movies.

I still believe that Nintendo sees itself as either the first choice for the non-hardcore crowd or the second/alternate option for those who already own the other systems. They didn't try to beat ps3/360 with the Wii, they created their own niche, and I think that's exactly what they're continuing with, which is why they don't see the need to include a bluray or DVD player.

I know I'll be a ps3 owner who also owns a Wii U, just like I did with the ps3 and Wii.

[slickdtc]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012

I still believe that Nintendo sees itself as either the first choice for the non-hardcore crowd or the second/alternate option for those who already own the other systems. They didn't try to beat ps3/360 with the Wii, they created their own niche, and I think that's exactly what they're continuing with, which is why they don't see the need to include a bluray or DVD player.

I know I'll be a ps3 owner who also owns a Wii U, just like I did with the ps3 and Wii.

Sounds about right to me. Everyone's screaming, "What why aren't they doing what the PS3 and 360 already do?" and they're missing the point. Nintendo does its own thing, and it's worked well for them. MS and Sony want to be multimedia centers, which is great, definitely. But Nintendo seems to be going for something different, something all its own.

[Skyboxer]

Re: New Nintendo Console in 2012

Sounds about right to me. Everyone's screaming, "What why aren't they doing what the PS3 and 360 already do?" and they're missing the point. Nintendo does its own thing, and it's worked well for them. MS and Sony want to be multimedia centers, which is great, definitely. But Nintendo seems to be going for something different, something all its own.

Nintendo is always a game machine. They aren't trying to be a full home entertainment solution.. and that's just fine with me.

[Pete1210]

Re: Wii U Discussion

Here’s a question you might have heard a few times last week: why can’t Nintendo make a console that will give Sony and Microsoft a run for their money? The answer is simple, but it’s going over the heads of some people. Here’s why Nintendo “can’t” emulate Sony & Microsoft’s approach to making consoles.

Nintendo Can’t Emulate Sony & Microsoft

[bkfount]

Re: Wii U Discussion

Nintendo Can’t Emulate Sony & Microsoft

Of course MS and Sony have more money. However, they've lost like 5 billion combined this gen alone. Nintendo made the choice to make money day one and did their own thing with motion gaming that MS/Sony ended up copying. Now they're forced to release a new HD console only 6 years later. Not bad business really, and nothing wrong with something different.

Still, this gen has only made people forget that Nintendo always put out competitive consoles capable of great graphics, when the costs weren't insane. Now they're just regarded as a lazy, kiddie company with no dude games and outdated hardware.

[23]

Re: Wii U Discussion

i dont know man, the presentation sucks the more i think about it

NO price point

No showing of the machine

No game price point

No dvd player

Showed No first party games

Showed a PS3 game instead

No power showcased

an overly expensive controller

Stuck in between this gen and nex gen


So on and so forth... there is no niche market now with this

[TracerBullet]

Re: Wii U Discussion

Apparently devs are struggling with the system. At least one group is.

Game Informer

Actual Article from foreign website

[Flawless]

Re: Wii U Discussion

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[Flawless]

Re: Wii U Discussion

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[CaptainZombie]

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I'm still not impressed by the Wii U and while the over sized controller is innovative I am still trying to figure out why they would only have 1 working with the system when the feedback is that people would love that for multi-play. Imagine using that during football games to pick plays. Unless Nintendo is holding back to release some add-on that will support a second one.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2012/01/ars-spends-an-hour-with-the-wii-u-and-learns-nothing-new-about-it.ars

"The new controller is an impressive thing to hold in your hands. It feels solid and comfortable, and nothing about it marks it as a weak link. The screen itself is bright and beautiful, much clearer than the screen on an iPad, and even small details of the games are able to be seen clearly. The controller's speakers also do a good job of delivering information to the player via audio clues."

[Flawless]

Re: Wii U Discussion

That's something Nintendo is apparently working on, if they haven't already solved it.

Develop

Nintendo engineers are working hard to upgrade Wii U so that it can simultaneously support two tablet controllers, Develop understands.

A trusted game development executive has said there are numerous indications within the Wii U codebase that the console is, at the very least, being prepared to operate with two touch-screen pads.

Nintendo and development partners had previously indicated that only one tablet controller could work with the system, due to technical limitations.

But Develop’s source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, explained that multi-tablet support is one of three remaining variables for the next-gen console. The other two are RAM capacity and processor speed.

The person said Nintendo appears to be on the cusp of solving the technical conundrum of a single Wii U device supporting two tablet controllers. The source added that there was no indication, and very little chance, that four tablet controllers would ever be supported.

[Scruffychicken]

Re: Wii U Discussion

I'm sure most people realized this was likely, but it's still news:

Wii U Will Not Support DVD/Blu-Ray

Nintendo have confirmed that the Wii U will not play DVDs, BluRays or GameCube discs but will support Wii games.

Those of you hoping the Wii U would be an entertainment powerhouse are set to be disappointed as Nintendo reveals that DVDs, BluRays and GameCube titles will not be playable on the new system.
This won't come as a surprise to many Nintendo gamers as no previous Nintendo console (apart from the Japan exclusive Panasonic Q) have supported DVDs. The lack of GameCube games have got people speculating whether such titles will appear in the Wii U version of the Virtual Console though and Nintendo did state last year that GameCube titles would be downloadable on Wii U before going back on their word.
Many people believe that with the growing popularity of streaming content, DVDs and BluRays won't be a necessity as the likes of LOVEFiLM and Netflix begin to play bigger roles in the entertainment industry.