PlayStation 4 Discussion

[DickDalewood]

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A absolute change to the PS3 controller would be a absolute blessing in disguise for me. Hate the layout.

Hell. No.

Concave triggers, that's it. Best controller on the market.

[CaptainZombie]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the end as far as gaming goes it really doesn't make a difference given that games are made for both systems so therefore even if one console has 10X more memory and processing speed gamers won't make much use of it beyond games that are made for that specific console.

In the end, if developers say have 4-6GB of RAM on the XBOX (while 2GB is allocated for OS) and 3GB of RAM (while 1GB is allocated for OS) on the PS it does create a bit of a handicap. Lets say the lead SKU is the Xbox where the development is happening, well now they have 3-4GB less of RAM to program for on the other system. I could be wrong here with my theory, but we can run into similar issues like last gen with the system RAM.

It looks like MSFT might have dedicated RAM for the Xbox so it can be used for the OS vs. the PS that seems to not have dedicated memory for the OS. Developers then have to share system RAM with the OS. I can see this a bit problematic.

Again, this is all based on speculation and we won't know for a few weeks. Some are saying that specs were given out at CES to some of the media outlets and to expect some reports soon on what might be under the hood.

Now the extra memory will be a big advantage to developers working on exclusives. For multiplatform titles it could be a problem since if the games are being programmed on the system with more memory, it handcuffs the developers.

With the PS having faster RAM, that will be good for faster reading and writing of data, hopefully there won't be the need anymore for those mandatory installs.

[Candyman5]

Hell. No.

Concave triggers, that's it. Best controller on the market.

Different strokes. I like the 360 controller much better. I use it for both my 360 and PS3.

[CaptainZombie]

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It looks like Sony could be bouncing back, but I think Kaz is crazy with this comment if he thinks people are still going to pay premium price for Sony products.

Source

TOKYO (AP) — Sony Corp., the struggling Japanese electronics and entertainment company, is headed in the right direction although its comeback is not yet complete, its chief executive said Thursday.

Kazuo Hirai told reporters that Sony is now more nimble and focused under his leadership which began nine months ago. Sony has lost money for the past four years, and has fallen behind powerful rivals such as Apple Inc. and Samsung Electronics Co. in profitability and innovation.

Hirai acknowledged Sony had gotten bogged down in its sprawling bureaucracy, and stressed he is making a point of personal involvement in product development to make sure good ideas don't get squelched.

"I'm shepherding several of those projects personally myself to make sure that it doesn't get held up in the bureaucracy, or it doesn't suddenly fade away in the approval process," he said at Tokyo headquarters.

A continuing headache has been Sony's TV division, now in its ninth straight year of red ink. Like other Japanese electronics makers, Sony is taking a beating from Chinese, Taiwan and South Korean rivals that offer products at much cheaper prices. Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war.

The make of Bravia TVs and PlayStation 3 game machines reports earnings next month for last year's final quarter. The numbers are expected to highlight a Sony midway through its recovery.

For the previous fiscal year ended March 2012, Sony reported a record annual loss of 457 billion yen ($5.1 billion) amid troubles exacerbated by factory and supplier damage in northeastern Japan from the 2011 earthquake and tsunami. Still, Hirai was upbeat, stressing his determination to move or "wow" people with new products. He proudly held up Sony's new waterproof, full-HD cellphone, set to go on sale around the world in the next few months.

That product, as well as the 4K or "ultra-HD" TV, whose displays have four times the pixels of today's TVs, received mostly positive feedback at the recent International CES gadget show in Las Vegas.

But Hirai acknowledged it may take several years, or as long as a decade, for 4K technology to catch on. He noted Sony's advantage in running a movie studio to make sure Sony Pictures offers 4K. Yasunori Tateishi, who has written a book on Sony's recent woes, said the same price plunges that plagued flat-panel TVs could hit 4K products, unless Sony can clearly demonstrate that it is offering a superior product.

"Sony needs to show that it is showcasing its unique imagery technology, not doing something everyone is doing," he said. "It needs to create new sectors in the electronics market. Otherwise, it's stuck fighting over the crumbs of the same pie."

Sony has been criticized for failing to take advantage of having both entertainment and electronics businesses. Still, Hirai was sticking to the old "synergy" strategy, while making changes such as revamping senior management and carving out alliances.

He pointed to Sony's investment in Japanese medical equipment maker Olympus Corp. and joint development with Panasonic Corp. in OLED, or organic light-emitting diode, displays as the kind of partnerships in the works.

"We need to be a lot faster in decision making. We need to be a lot faster in execution. We need to be passionate about our product," Hirai said. "Are we perfect? No. But I think we've improved significantly."

[nemesis04]

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When I am at Sony next week I can ask the developers what their thoughts are with the RAM scenarios. Not sure how much they can talk about things. Worth a shot.

[Flawless]

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When I am at Sony next week I can ask the developers what their thoughts are with the RAM scenarios. Not sure how much they can talk about things. Worth a shot.

Probably won't be able to say anything, but I'm sure they will like having that high bandwith memory.

After all, it was Sony that said they would look to their first-party studios for input on hardware for future PlayStation platforms.

[CaptainZombie]

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CVG sources: Sony to abandon DualShock design for PS4

A senior games studio source working on an upcoming Sony game says the new system's controller has undergone numerous iterations, few of which resemble the DualShock build that has become synonymous with PlayStation.

Experiments within Sony's R&D department are thought to have been extensive. Versions of the new PS4 pad include biometric sensors on the grips and an LCD touch screen, the development source claimed.

A second source, working in a separate part of the industry but still connected to Sony, said PlayStation engineers are "trying to emulate the same user interface philosophies as the PS Vita". This is likely a reference to the touch-screen capabilities of the PlayStation handheld, and a suggestion that Sony will tightly integrate its portable and home systems.

The new console - codenamed Orbis - will be revealed in a matter of weeks, not months.

Sony has declined to comment.

[nemesis04]

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^I don't want $100 controllers. Just update the current design based on feedback and be done with it. It really does not have to be complicated.

[DickDalewood]

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I think Vita integration would be awesome. The touch screen can be used in really cool ways if done correctly.

[CaptainZombie]

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I've been saying that a Vita like controller would be awesome. Hell, if Sony is cutting production costs of the Vita and with the handheld having been a failure, why not use it for the Oribis? I say launch the Oribis with a redesigned Vita as its controller. Since this is the year where they will cut production costs on it, if they packaged the cheaper redesigned Vita with each single Oribis allowing it to be multi function with the Oribis games but then you can also play Vita games on it they have hit 2 markets right there. You have a handheld and a console controller. Since it all works with bluetooth allowing people to also use their DS3's would go a long way. Everyone now will also have access to Sony's handheld that have bought the Oribis, so selling software and memory is where they will make their money.

[ScoobySnax]

^ Makes sense.

[Skyboxer]

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I also hate the fact (Like the WiiU) that a controller may be 100+ if I need a new one.
However if it adds ton to the gaming experience I'm all for it.
There comes a time when all the "We want some new innovations" has to lead to us leaving our comfort zone.

The really bad thing is if it is a huge addition my weak *** will want one.
MLB The Show with defensive adjustments, bullpen status, OOT Scoreboards etc.. all a touch screen away....


Damn.

[Altimus]

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Am I the only one that isn't found of having a screen on the controller?

I always loved the compact controller. Light weight, comfortable layout and rumble included.

[Skyboxer]

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No. I love the regular controller too, but I beleive a lot of people are ready to move on a bit. Or at least the industry is.
I still think it comes down to people wanting an advancement in the gaming world, as long as things stay the same..

What exactly are we really going to get next gen?
Prettier games, faster load times, more content...

I'm not sold a bit yet we will see any advancement in AI but hope I'm wrong.
So things being the way they are is it really worth it to go next gen with same ol same ole, just prettier?

Just some discussion points..on thoughts why a new controller (especially touch screen capabilities) would add to the value of going next gen.

[CaptainZombie]

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Eurogamer is on this now too.....

Sony will drop the DualShock controller for the next PlayStation, according to a new report.

Sources told CVG Sony has tested new controllers with biometric sensors on the grips and an LCD touch-screen.

This information tallies with what Eurogamer has heard from our own sources. We understand that as of six months ago Sony was testing a controller that had an LCD touch-screen on the front and biometrics functionality on the back. These designs, we were told, have changed almost every month, but are for the controller for the next PlayStation.

Biometrics technology captures data from the player's body, such as temperature and heart rate. Half-Life developer Valve has been experimenting with the tech, trying to discover new game experiences that would benefit from it.