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  • Fresh Tendrils
    Strike Hard and Fade Away
    • Jul 2002
    • 36131

    #22306
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by SoMiss2000
    The time thing, you can only play one console at a time lol. If you have time to play one, you have time to play both.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4
    What?

    For less money I can fill up the same amount of time I use to game. I barely have time to play the games I want to on PS4 much less throw in any Xbone exclusive I could potentially be interested in.

    So, same amount of gaming time, but spend less money? Sounds good to me.



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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #22307
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      If you're looking for a great deal on a PS4 bundle: I just got the White Destiny PS4 bundle from Rakuten.com for $369.00. Use code RRRTREASURE for $30 off (good only today) and then I also applied for their credit card for $50 more off. 0.00% APR for 6 months too.

      Now I can sell this Destiny disc (or trade in) for another $35-40 and it'll end up being about $330..hard to beat that price for a new bundle.
      Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
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      • Burns11
        Greatness Has Arrived
        • Mar 2007
        • 7406

        #22308
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Some details about 2.0

        PS4 Share Play sessions will be capped at 720p and have a limited frame rate, Sony has confirmed to VideoGamer.com.
        While the caps do not affect the host (1080p titles will continue to output at 1080p on the host's TV), they may affect the gameplay experience of the guest, with the quality of the Share Play stream determined by both users' internet connection.
        The resolution on the guest's TV will automatically scale up and down based on the quality of the connection, and while Sony has not stated exactly what the frame rate cap will be, an early demonstration shown to VideoGamer.com suggests it could be around 30fps.
        Sony has not disclosed recommended download and upload speeds for players using Share Play.
        "We are not going to [disclose a minimum speed] because if we say, for example, you need at least a 3MB speed, I cannot guarantee if it works [even if they have that speed]," SCEE product planning manager Kazuhiro Yanase explained to VideoGamer.com. "The internet environment is really different user by user. For example, some users will be using a LAN cable, some users will be using Wi-Fi, sometimes you use the microwave in your house. Something like that. It's very difficult for us to guarantee you can use Share Play if you have [a certain] speed. That's the reason why we are not going to disclose any specific number. But again, this doesn't require any super-fast broadband."
        Share Play is set to be introduced to PS4 in tomorrow's System Update 2.0 and allows players to invite a guest to watch their gameplay, join them as 'player two' in a multiplayer game, or hand control of the game to them - even if they don't own the title currently being played. It's an impressive piece of tech that - if it works - could completely change the way you buy and play games.
        VideoGamer.com was given an early look at Share Play and the rest of System Update 2.0 last week, and was able to dig a little deeper into the lesser known features and restrictions/requirements of tomorrow's update.
        Want to know what we discovered? Take a look below:
        SHARE PLAY

        • Share Play lets PS4 users host a game session that they can invite a friend to watch, take control of, or (if they're playing a local, single-screen multiplayer game) join them to play, even if their friend doesn't own the game.
        • In order to use Share Play, the host must be a PS Plus subscriber. The guest does not need to be a PS Plus subscriber to watch the host's Share Play session or take control of the host's game. However, playing multiplayer games together requires that both the guest and host have a PS Plus subscription.
        • You can host a Share Play session by pushing the Share button and selecting the Share Play option. A private party will automatically be created from which you can invite a friend to join.
        • Share Play sessions are limited to 60 minutes. However, Sony states that there are no limits on how many times the same user can join a Share Play session for the same title. In theory, there is nothing to stop the guest playing through the entirety of a game they don't own, provided the host is willing to continue inviting the guest to take control of their game after each 60 minute session.
        • Sony has not fully explained the reason for the 60 minute restriction, but it appears to be a speed bump put in place to reduce exploitation and encourage the guest to purchase the game themselves. Sony says that the 60 minute restriction proved to be the "sweet spot" when discussing the feature with game creators, but that it will listen to user feedback to see "whether it's right".
        • While Sony is aiming for Share Play to be a standard feature across the platform, publishers/developers can place restrictions on content that can be shared. For example, publishers may choose to prevent playable alphas and betas from being shared with guests.
        • There may also be scenarios where spoiler content is blocked from Share Play. "Generally it's a standard platform feature," SCEE's VP of Product Planning Murray Hume explained. "We do know that there are situations where if the game contains a spoiler or if it requires a peripheral for a certain stage, then we have a facility we provide that allows that portion of the game to be stopped and not shown... because there are certain contexts in which it doesn't work." It isn't clear what will be displayed on the guest's screen during these moments or how frequently they may occur.
        • Share Play is only compatible with games. You cannot broadcast Netflix to a guest's display, for example.
        • While Share Play is in operation, the guest can only control the game and cannot perform other functions on the host's PS4. The guest cannot access the host's personal information.
        • The host can take back control of their PS4 at any point by pressing the Share button on their DualShock 4 and ending the session.
        • The guest cannot remotely turn off the PS4 once they are done playing the game. System functionality remains the responsibility of the host.
        • Notifications intended for the host (such as messages and friend requests) will not be displayed on the guest's screen.
        • Trophies cannot be unlocked on the guest's account.
        • Game progress cannot be saved on the guest's account.
        • Once a guest has played a game owned by a host, that game's icon will appear in the recently played section of the guest's PS4 Home screen directing them towards the PlayStation Store. "This will encourage additional game title sales for game publishers," Yanase says.
        • Share Play is currently only compatible with PS4. A PS4 user, for example, cannot invite a PS Vita user to watch or take control of their game.
        • You cannot livestream directly through PS4 at the same time as using Share Play.
        • Resolution is capped at 720p on the guest's display during Share Play. Much like a live broadcast, resolution will scale up and down depending on the quality of both parties' internet connection.
        • There is a similar cap on frame rate, although Sony has not specified exactly what it is. Based on our early demonstration, the cap appears to be 30fps.
        • While latency did not appear to be an issue during our demonstration, both the host and guest PS4s were connected to a wired network at Sony's London offices. As of this writing we have been unable to test Share Play in a typical 'real world' environment, but Sony stresses that it does not require super-fast broadband.

        CUSTOM THEMES

        • Sony is aiming to have 3-4 custom themes available at the launch of System Update 2.0.
        • As with PS3, third-party publishers and developers are able to create their own themes for download on PlayStation Store.
        • PS4 users cannot create their own custom themes or custom background images "at this time". You can, however, choose your own background colour.

        YOUTUBE SHARING

        • Uploading videos to YouTube follows the same process as sharing to Facebook. Simply push the Share button, scroll to Upload Video Clip and select YouTube.
        • A Google account must be associated with your PSN account to share gameplay footage to YouTube.

        USB MUSIC PLAYER

        • The USB Music Player allows you to play your own music tracks from a USB Flash drive. When a USB stick loaded with music is inserted into the PS4, a USB Music Player option will appear on the Home screen from where you can play your music. MP3, MP4, M4A, and 3GP file types are supported, and music can be played over the top of game audio.
        • A new Mini Player has been added to the PlayStation Button menu screen that allows you to quickly stop and restart the track or adjust the music volume. To access, simply press and hold the PlayStation Button while playing music and scroll down to the player.
        • While music must be played from a USB memory stick at the launch of System Update 2.0, Sony is investigating the option to allow music to be stored on the internal hard drive for a future update. "Lots of gamers want to store not only music files but also their favourite video files on [the] PS4 hard drive," Yanase acknowledged. "But... to deliver this kind of custom soundtrack capability as soon as possible is most important for gamers, so we have the highest priority to deliver this function first. Then maybe we can develop it for [internal storage] sometime over the future."

        LIVE FROM PLAYSTATION

        • The Live From PlayStation UI has been tweaked to include new 'Live' and 'Archive' buttons that let you quickly switch between live and archived footage.
        • You now have the option to follow your favourite live streamers, too, with their live broadcasts appearing in the Featured section. If somebody follows you, you'll see your follower count increase on whichever livestream service you use (Ustream/Twitch).
        • A new Games section lets you browse broadcasts of games based on their current popularity within the community.

        HOME SCREEN & LIBRARY

        • To reduce clutter, the Home screen has been tweaked to display the 15 most recently used games and apps. The remainder of your icons will be pushed into the Library folder.
        • The Library folder has seen some improvements, too, and can now be sorted by Games, Applications and TV.

        VOICE COMMANDS

        • A range of new voice commands are being added with 2.0, including 'Start Broadcasting' and 'End Broadcasting'.
        • A new context-sensitive menu is also being introduced to make it easier for players to know which voice commands are currently available. By saying 'PlayStation, All Commands', a new menu will be displayed detailing every voice command currently available.
        • Polish and Russian languages are now supported.

        OTHER STUFF

        • While it will not be available in System Update 2.0, Sony says that it has heard requests from fans to let them change their PSN ID. "I'm aware of that request," says Yanase.
        • Sony is aware of requests to support external hard drives, too, but such functionality will not be available in 2.0.
        • Folders are not available in 2.0.
        • The option to suspend and resume games won't be introduced in 2.0 either. Hume says that, while "there's nothing to announce today... we haven't stopped working on it".
        • Notifications now have a context-sensitive PS button that will - presumably - take you to the relevant area when pressed.
        • A new 'Add To Library' button on PlayStation Store will let you add PS Plus games to your library for future download.
        • And finally, yes, System Update 2.0 will introduce the option to pause downloads.
        On the bolded, some external HDDs do work, the little enclosure I bought for my old PS3 hdd when I replaced it works. It's this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817392032

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        • icicle22
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2395

          #22309
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Originally posted by ODogg
          If you're looking for a great deal on a PS4 bundle: I just got the White Destiny PS4 bundle from Rakuten.com for $369.00. Use code RRRTREASURE for $30 off (good only today) and then I also applied for their credit card for $50 more off. 0.00% APR for 6 months too.

          Now I can sell this Destiny disc (or trade in) for another $35-40 and it'll end up being about $330..hard to beat that price for a new bundle.
          There's a physical disk? I figured it was a download. Unfortunately I have Best Buy credits so I have to snag it from there. I'm not sure if I love the white PS4 look or hate it! I already bought a white controller but as far as the system goes.....the jury is out.

          Odogg......any advice for me on whether I should get a 2nd PS4 or one of the recently marked down Xbone bundles? I know this is a PS4 thread but I value an "unbiased" opinion.

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          • Mabster
            Crunchy
            • Mar 2009
            • 7659

            #22310
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Burns, do you have a link to all that info? I'd like to send it to a friend.
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            • Burns11
              Greatness Has Arrived
              • Mar 2007
              • 7406

              #22311
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by Mabster
              Burns, do you have a link to all that info? I'd like to send it to a friend.
              http://www.videogamer.com/news/ps4_s...pdate_2_0.html

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              • areobee401
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2006
                • 16771

                #22312
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by icicle22
                There's a physical disk? I figured it was a download. Unfortunately I have Best Buy credits so I have to snag it from there. I'm not sure if I love the white PS4 look or hate it! I already bought a white controller but as far as the system goes.....the jury is out.



                Odogg......any advice for me on whether I should get a 2nd PS4 or one of the recently marked down Xbone bundles? I know this is a PS4 thread but I value an "unbiased" opinion.

                PS4 is expected to be priced $50 less as well this holiday season. So it all comes down to which console you prefer.

                I decided to go with the XB1 as a second console. Since it's for our family room it will mainly be used for media other than video games. If I want to play games the PS4 is only a flight of stairs away. Makes little sense to own a second PS4 being the only gamer in the house. XB1 covers our media needs on the family room, and I am now covered for when a new Gears of War is released. Other than that I doubt the thing receives much gaming usage.

                I was lucky enough to even convince the boss to allow me to buy a gaming device for in the there in the first place. Her and her stupid no video games allowed outside the gaming room rule, lol. If it wasn't for needing something to stream Netflix and Skype capabilities, I doubt a second console would have ever been an option at all.
                http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #22313
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Any news on DriveClub?



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                  • aukevin
                    War Eagle, Go Braves!
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 14700

                    #22314
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Well if someone gets NBA Live this week and wants to let me play it through Share Play, let me know!

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                    - Auburn Tigers - Nashville Predators

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                    • icicle22
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2395

                      #22315
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by areobee401
                      PS4 is expected to be priced $50 less as well this holiday season. So it all comes down to which console you prefer.

                      I decided to go with the XB1 as a second console. Since it's for our family room it will mainly be used for media other than video games. If I want to play games the PS4 is only a flight of stairs away. Makes little sense to own a second PS4 being the only gamer in the house. XB1 covers our media needs on the family room, and I am now covered for when a new Gears of War is released. Other than that I doubt the thing receives much gaming usage.

                      I was lucky enough to even convince the boss to allow me to buy a gaming device for in the there in the first place. Her and her stupid no video games allowed outside the gaming room rule, lol. If it wasn't for needing something to stream Netflix and Skype capabilities, I doubt a second console would have ever been an option at all.
                      Can the xbox one stream from a DLNA server? I have tons of videos on my NAS that are in .mkv format and I'd love to be able to stream those if possible.

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                      • mestevo
                        Gooney Goo Goo
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19556

                        #22316
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Originally posted by icicle22
                        Can the xbox one stream from a DLNA server? I have tons of videos on my NAS that are in .mkv format and I'd love to be able to stream those if possible.
                        Looks like it was in the latest official update, was in preview for a couple months.

                        Media Player DLNA and MKV support – The latest version of the Media Player app will now have support for DLNA streaming. With this update, you will be able to easily access and play music, watch photo slideshows or movies stored on home media servers and devices that support the DLNA server protocols. Additionally, you will now be able to playback MKV files stored on a USB device or a device on your home network that supports DLNA streaming.

                        http://majornelson.com/2014/10/15/xb...rolling-today/

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                        • Picci
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4517

                          #22317
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Coming 1st quarter 2015 on PS4......Primal Carnage: Extinction.

                          “Primal Carnage: Extinction is a class-based, online multiplayer shooter unlike any other on the PS4 platform, featuring fast-paced combat, diverse environments, and over-the-top action,” explains the developer.

                          “On a mysterious island overrun with prehistoric monsters, players can choose to fight as a variety of legendary dinosaurs or to join the human mercenary team armed with a unique, distinctive, and destructive arsenal aimed at making these bloodthirsty beasts extinct once and for all.”

                          “Take control of one of nine dinosaur classes in order to combat the human team. Sneaking, blinding, charging, eating, or flying - there’s no shortage of ways to engage the enemy.”

                          http://www.playstationtrophies.org/n...d-for-PS4.html

                          <iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BGd0ZhWn_bk?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                          • JoshCA916
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 649

                            #22318
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            I have a question about the whole music and video media player being added to the ps4 with the 2.0 update. Maybe I am dumb and don't keep up on this stuff as much as I used to but how is the ps4 going to know the difference between a flash drive and external hard drive? They both connect via usb, do they send different signals to the system or whatnot? I mean both are made to hold data and as long as the files on the flash drive/hard drive are compatible how will the system know? Is it capped at a space thing as in it won't pick it up if it's over a certain size? I just wonder because I have a 64GB flash drive and a 2TB external hard drive. So how will the ps4 be able to tell the 2 apart?
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                            • ODogg
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #22319
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              Originally posted by icicle22
                              There's a physical disk? I figured it was a download. Unfortunately I have Best Buy credits so I have to snag it from there. I'm not sure if I love the white PS4 look or hate it! I already bought a white controller but as far as the system goes.....the jury is out.

                              Odogg......any advice for me on whether I should get a 2nd PS4 or one of the recently marked down Xbone bundles? I know this is a PS4 thread but I value an "unbiased" opinion.
                              Yeah it's a disc. If you don't have an X1 then there are two main reasons to get one, the racing games (Forza) and the TV multimedia aspects. Others than those two I'd recommend a second PS4.
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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #22320
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by Picci
                                Coming 1st quarter 2015 on PS4......Primal Carnage: Extinction.




                                <iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BGd0ZhWn_bk?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                                I wonder if it will be free to play? That's the only reason I've played the 2 year old PC game - a free weekend. It's also only $15. More videos here - http://steamcommunity.com/app/215470/videos

                                Hope it's not just a port with shinier graphics, just wasn't very fun.

                                edit: PS Blog is more informative. This sounds like a sequel. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/...ps4-next-year/

                                Edit2: Oh, this is coming out on PCs next month. The project was originally a re-code of the first game but they've decided to repackage.
                                Last edited by mestevo; 10-27-2014, 07:14 PM.

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