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  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #36661
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    So I just got to thinking about ps5 and if it where to come out in 2020 like a lot of people think it will. What I was thinking is if it comes out late 2020 maybe Horizon 2 could be a day 1 game has that would be around 3.5 years after the first one enough time I think that could happend and than maybe come like 2021 we could get spiderman sequel has that would give them around that same amount of time. That would be pretty crazy if in around its first year you could get both of those games on ps5. Any thoughts about that?

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    • peter42O
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      • May 2018
      • 1991

      #36662
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by Smallville102001
      So I just got to thinking about ps5 and if it where to come out in 2020 like a lot of people think it will. What I was thinking is if it comes out late 2020 maybe Horizon 2 could be a day 1 game has that would be around 3.5 years after the first one enough time I think that could happend and than maybe come like 2021 we could get spiderman sequel has that would give them around that same amount of time. That would be pretty crazy if in around its first year you could get both of those games on ps5. Any thoughts about that?
      Guerrilla Games has ramped up their studio to around 400 people as they're moving into a brand new studio. Guerrilla Games Head Herman Hulst has said that he would like to be able to release a game every two to three years. The studio will most likely have two teams in it. Main team is already in pre-production for Horizon 2 but I would expect it in March 2021. I don't think that it will be a launch title. What I do think will be a launch title will be a new Killzone game from the secondary team.

      Spider Man sequel is all but confirmed to be green lit as the game is going to be awesome. Insomniac is going to be put on the map like Horizon did Guerrilla Games and the God of War reboot did for Santa Monica. Back to the sequel, Insomniac does have a few different studios and do have an amazing turnaround rate where they're crazy efficient. I can see them developing a new Ratchet & Clank game as well as Spider Man 2. I could see R&C being a PS5 launch game and Spider Man Fall 2022.

      I'm personally more concerned about the console than the games. I'm not worried about the studios or the games. For PS5, the GPU will be a small increase over Xbox One X. I'm guessing an 8TF GPU just so every game can hit Native 4K. The main component im hoping for is the Ryzen 7 CPU. CPU is what needs the biggest increase, not GPU. Followed by RAM which im hoping for at least 16GB. Sony does all of this and hopefully adds in a 1TB SSD for $500 in September 2020 and I'll be one very happy camper.

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      • Picci
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 4517

        #36663
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by peter42O
        The main component im hoping for is the Ryzen 7 CPU. CPU is what needs the biggest increase, not GPU. Followed by RAM which im hoping for at least 16GB. Sony does all of this and hopefully adds in a 1TB SSD for $500 in September 2020 and I'll be one very happy camper.


        Naturally, we need to take this with a grain of salt but SemiAccurate, who correctly predicted Nintendo's Nvidia partnership for the Switch, the PS4 specs back in 2012, and the current gen consoles would be upgraded, released some PS5 info a few months back which talks to those rumors. The article is behind a paywall but many tech sites reported what was seen.



        The PlayStation 5 should feature an APU composed of an 8-core Zen CPU and a Navi-based GPU – both customized, as usual, with consoles. We don’t know much about Navi yet, but AMD has previously linked its name to “Scalability” and “Nextgen Memory”. The latter could refer to GDDR6 memory, which both Samsung and SK Hynix have recently made available.

        The article also claims that the hardware will be engineered with VR optimization in mind, thus suggesting that Sony will keep banging the PlayStation VR drum.

        The first rumors on Sony's PlayStation 5 hardware point to an APU made with an 8-Core Zen CPU and a Navi-based GPU. Apparently, a large amount of development kits has already been sent to game developers.

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        • XxGamerXx
          MVP
          • Jul 2018
          • 1029

          #36664
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Why did Sony stop making the PRO....No stores have them and Amazon has not had it in months

          Gamestop told me that Sony is no longer producing them and are selling the regular ps4

          The Spider man bundle is a PRo so what is Sony doing? Why are they not making PRO versions and pushing that console

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          • RoyalBoyle78
            Aka."Footballforever"
            • May 2003
            • 23918

            #36665
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by XxGamerXx
            Why did Sony stop making the PRO....No stores have them and Amazon has not had it in months



            Gamestop told me that Sony is no longer producing them and are selling the regular ps4



            The Spider man bundle is a PRo so what is Sony doing? Why are they not making PRO versions and pushing that console


            Come on bro don’t start Spreading rumors there’s a shortage of the pros Sony do not stop making them that would be the most silliest thing on this planet if that happened I already read an article on it there’s a shortage don’t start going around saying that they stopped making it


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            • Scott
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              • Jul 2002
              • 20031

              #36666
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by RoyalBoyle14
              Come on bro don’t start Spreading rumors there’s a shortage of the pros Sony do not stop making them that would be the most silliest thing on this planet if that happened I already read an article on it there’s a shortage don’t start going around saying that they stopped making it


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              I mean it's not necessarily false. The only Pro Best Buy has available is the new Spiderman bundle.
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              • Picci
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 4517

                #36667
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                Why did Sony stop making the PRO....No stores have them and Amazon has not had it in months

                Gamestop told me that Sony is no longer producing them and are selling the regular ps4

                The Spider man bundle is a PRo so what is Sony doing? Why are they not making PRO versions and pushing that console
                They haven't stopped making them but they have decreased production of them. Don't forget, they've already announced that the PS4 is at the end of its lifecycle paving the way towards the next generation of consoles. From what I'm hearing as soon as some are available -- just as fast, they're moving out the door. Spidey, GoT, LoU2, DS, and VR (as well as 4k TV) are believed to be what's driving it at the moment.

                The PlayStation boss John Kodera recently made a statement that the Ps4 console is entering the end of its lifecycle. The statement made a lot of headlines and has owners of the console (especially…


                I've used them before for alerts......
                https://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/
                Last edited by Picci; 08-04-2018, 09:07 PM.

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                • peter42O
                  MVP
                  • May 2018
                  • 1991

                  #36668
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by Picci
                  Naturally, we need to take this with a grain of salt but SemiAccurate, who correctly predicted Nintendo's Nvidia partnership for the Switch, the PS4 specs back in 2012, and the current gen consoles would be upgraded, released some PS5 info a few months back which talks to those rumors. The article is behind a paywall but many tech sites reported what was seen.
                  Yeah, I remember reading that a while back because it seems like Sony may have an exclusive deal with AMD for PlayStation 5. I'm just hoping that they don't over do the GPU and sacrifice the CPU. Even on PS4 Pro, there are some games that can hit Native 4K and more so on the 6TF Xbox One X so I figure that if the GPU is 8TF, it should easily hit Native 4K but the CPU is more important for frame rates and AI.

                  Either way, im definitely excited and looking forward to 2020. Expecting some leaks though next Spring after GDC.

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                  • XxGamerXx
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 1029

                    #36669
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Originally posted by RoyalBoyle14
                    Come on bro don’t start Spreading rumors there’s a shortage of the pros Sony do not stop making them that would be the most silliest thing on this planet if that happened I already read an article on it there’s a shortage don’t start going around saying that they stopped making it


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                    Do you want the number to gamestop? Why would I make that up?

                    My cousin is looking for one and nobody has it. Zero chance this has to do with stores not able to stop the huge demand for the PRO...

                    It is one thing to stop productiong due to sony saying is nearing the end of the cycle but that can be 2 or 3 years out and even so that does not mean they will stop making the console or should.

                    Amazon has not had a pro for months. Neither has best buy so why?

                    I damm near go to best buy every other day and know the guys there and they say they are not getting stock.

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                    • rudyjuly2
                      Cade Cunningham
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 14815

                      #36670
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Im guessing the Pro just doesn’t sell that well with the higher price point. I would have thought they would have sold a Pro Slim by now. 99% of the people probably pick the slim so that is the focus. You can almost buy two for one Pro. I’d still like to see one in action. Have always been tempted but the cost to upgrade just seems too high.
                      Last edited by rudyjuly2; 08-05-2018, 06:03 PM. Reason: Typo

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                      • LowerWolf
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 12268

                        #36671
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Hard for me to believe they’re discontinuing the Pro completely. Maybe a redesign is coming and they’re trying to get rid of existing stock?

                        If the PS5 is still a couple of years away, maybe an upgraded Pro to better compete technically with the Xbox-X?

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                        • XxGamerXx
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2018
                          • 1029

                          #36672
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Originally posted by LowerWolf
                          Hard for me to believe they’re discontinuing the Pro completely. Maybe a redesign is coming and they’re trying to get rid of existing stock?

                          If the PS5 is still a couple of years away, maybe an upgraded Pro to better compete technically with the Xbox-X?
                          No chance they are improving the PRo for this gen. But it cannot be discontinued as the spider man bundle is coming.

                          And you do not discontinue or stop making the console before a slim or whatever comes out. You phase out the pro after the new redesign hits the market

                          Amazon has not had the PRO for months and best buy either...

                          Gamestop told me that Sony is not producing them any more and are shipping them regular ps4 slim

                          Zero chance they stop making it as if that was the case then it would mean they are not happy with the sales of it and in order to make bank and continue to dominate sales they go with the slim which is 200 lower than comp

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                          • Bard
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                            • Oct 2010
                            • 7803

                            #36673
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                            No chance they are improving the PRo for this gen. But it cannot be discontinued as the spider man bundle is coming.

                            And you do not discontinue or stop making the console before a slim or whatever comes out. You phase out the pro after the new redesign hits the market

                            Amazon has not had the PRO for months and best buy either...

                            Gamestop told me that Sony is not producing them any more and are shipping them regular ps4 slim

                            Zero chance they stop making it as if that was the case then it would mean they are not happy with the sales of it and in order to make bank and continue to dominate sales they go with the slim which is 200 lower than comp
                            I don't believe this is a matter of Sony being unsatisfied with sales. Everyone and their dog knows they mainly get money from video games, accessories, PS+, etc... and hardly get profit from the systems.

                            I am curious as to if they are planning on banging out a different type of model though, because I do have to think 2020-2021 is the PS5 timeline.

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                            • Picci
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 4517

                              #36674
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              Well, I checked just on a whim regarding supplies of the xbox1 x console and noticed something similar. Not as crazy as PS4 but similar...

                              https://www.nowinstock.net/videogami...oles/xboxonex/

                              My guess?..........Both consoles are manufactured in China. Those following economic news recently will note what's been going on in regards to price tariff hikes. Both Microsoft and Sony maybe easing more production than we realized.

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                              • Smallville102001
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                                • Mar 2015
                                • 6542

                                #36675
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by peter42O
                                Guerrilla Games has ramped up their studio to around 400 people as they're moving into a brand new studio. Guerrilla Games Head Herman Hulst has said that he would like to be able to release a game every two to three years. The studio will most likely have two teams in it. Main team is already in pre-production for Horizon 2 but I would expect it in March 2021. I don't think that it will be a launch title. What I do think will be a launch title will be a new Killzone game from the secondary team.

                                Spider Man sequel is all but confirmed to be green lit as the game is going to be awesome. Insomniac is going to be put on the map like Horizon did Guerrilla Games and the God of War reboot did for Santa Monica. Back to the sequel, Insomniac does have a few different studios and do have an amazing turnaround rate where they're crazy efficient. I can see them developing a new Ratchet & Clank game as well as Spider Man 2. I could see R&C being a PS5 launch game and Spider Man Fall 2022.

                                I'm personally more concerned about the console than the games. I'm not worried about the studios or the games. For PS5, the GPU will be a small increase over Xbox One X. I'm guessing an 8TF GPU just so every game can hit Native 4K. The main component im hoping for is the Ryzen 7 CPU. CPU is what needs the biggest increase, not GPU. Followed by RAM which im hoping for at least 16GB. Sony does all of this and hopefully adds in a 1TB SSD for $500 in September 2020 and I'll be one very happy camper.
                                I did hear about GG and them getting a new building and them upping the amount of people thing. I dont know how many people they had before compared to the new 400 number. Yeah that could be true its just I dont like FPS they are all the same and so I would rather get Horizon 2 before another killzone and I would think like 3 and a half years or so could be enough time for them to make a Horizon 2. When it comes to Insomniac I love ratchet and clank and I cant wait for spiderman been so long sinces there was a good spiderman game and I love spiderman and yes I know they could work on a few games. I remember hearing just in the last few months how the team that made ratchet and clank ps4 was pretty small and that explains how they where able to start working on spiderman like a year and a half before ratchet and clank even came out. So having a new ratchet and clank and a spiderman 2 game would be great but I would rather have spiderman 2 first because I would rather get more good spiderman games and have ratchet get a break than having to wait longer for another good spiderman game.

                                While I dont know specs that much but I would think we are going to see less of a jump with ps5 just because of the fact that we got a mid gen upgrade with ps4 so less time between new systems and the fact that xbox one x is even bigger of a upgrade than ps4 pro that it is almost like a next gen type of upgrade.

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