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  • mgoblue
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    • Jul 2002
    • 25477

    #106
    Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
    Not a great conference. The biggest thing imo was the Minecraft news they way undersold. Sony needs to fix that as they will be the only platform without true Minecraft now going forward. Don't kid yourself how big Minecraft is.


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    Yeah, it's huge in the learning community and things like that...that's a good point.

    Not sure what Sony can do though...

    Thinking more, the 500 for X isn't unreasonable....but it does price it out of casual purchases. People who got the Pro for upgrades will consider this...Gamers who want the best but not shell out for a PC
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    • RoyalBoyle78
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      • May 2003
      • 23918

      #107
      Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

      Where are the games, I mean First Party, this thing is a snoozer so far. They didn't think they beat Sony with this did they??? Was hoping for more so far. One X alone isn't going to sway gamers.
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      • ExtremeGamer
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        • Jul 2002
        • 35299

        #108
        Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by mgoblue
        Yeah, it's huge in the learning community and things like that...that's a good point.



        Not sure what Sony can do though...



        Thinking more, the 500 for X isn't unreasonable....but it does price it out of casual purchases. People who got the Pro for upgrades will consider this...Gamers who want the best but not shell out for a PC


        Sony could have said "yes we will allow cross platform play". But arrogant Sony is back and this will hurt them.


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        • Tha_Kid
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          • Oct 2002
          • 6550

          #109
          E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

          Agree in large part with Daniels recap , particularly regarding the lack of real 1st partyexclusives and stage demos all being multiplatform titles. It's funny ps4 excels at the genre of games I love (3rd person action/adventure/RPG story driven SP experiences) but I enjoy the overall Xbox ecosystem and will be picking up a One X off the strength of improving my current library, similar to why I upgraded to the one S.

          It'd be better really if there were no exclusive titles and everyone got to enjoy titles on the console of their choice but it's a fact that Nintendo and Sony have 1st party system sellers, even if it's not enough to sell me personally on one. Still id rather no exclusivity than timed exclusives as that pendulum swings both ways. Also thought it was pretty misleading to state 22 exclusives when few were true exclusives.


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          • daniel77733
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            • Nov 2011
            • 3544

            #110
            Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

            Here's a good idea of Microsoft exclusives for Xbox One...it's from a guy on neogaf called "Nightengale". Kind of explains everything.

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            • Boltman
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              • Mar 2004
              • 18283

              #111
              Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by daniel77733
              Here's a good idea of Microsoft exclusives for Xbox One...it's from a guy on neogaf called "Nightengale". Kind of explains everything.

              https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHcfMbVwAQ3sjo.jpg
              Yea that pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. Dude made a damn graph heh.

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              • Americas Team
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                • Jun 2016
                • 1282

                #112
                Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                Im ready for the XOX! Time to get that new 4K HDR in the meanwhile.

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                • mgoblue
                  Go Wings!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #113
                  Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                  Sony could have said "yes we will allow cross platform play". But arrogant Sony is back and this will hurt them.


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                  Cross play on minecraft is awesome too...to play on phone with local console people? Great for playing with kids who love it on the iPad or something.

                  I hadn't realized it was cross play that Sony refused...they care all about the gamers until they don't.

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                  • ExtremeGamer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #114
                    Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by mgoblue
                    Cross play on minecraft is awesome too...to play on phone with local console people? Great for playing with kids who love it on the iPad or something.

                    I hadn't realized it was cross play that Sony refused...they care all about the gamers until they don't.

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                    Yep. I explained it more in the Sony E3 deal. This is a monster for me and having 2 Minecraft addicted kids. We have that game on 5 different platforms.


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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #115
                      Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Boltman
                      Yea that pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. Dude made a damn graph heh.
                      My guess is the cupboard got bare with cancelled games and slow to restock....gotta figure they try again

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                      • daniel77733
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                        • Nov 2011
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                        #116
                        Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                        Don't care whatsoever about Minecraft but yes, Sony SHOULD allow cross-play but I think they also refused cross-play for Rocket League, didn't they?

                        Either way, Sony should allow it but I understand why they don't. Sony is the market leader. Sony is dominating and kicking Microsoft's *** and have no reason to throw them a bone. Besides, it's not like Microsoft would be any different if the roles were reversed.

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                        • mgoblue
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #117
                          Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by daniel77733
                          Don't care whatsoever about Minecraft but yes, Sony SHOULD allow cross-play but I think they also refused cross-play for Rocket League, didn't they?

                          Either way, Sony should allow it but I understand why they don't. Sony is the market leader. Sony is dominating and kicking Microsoft's *** and have no reason to throw them a bone. Besides, it's not like Microsoft would be any different if the roles were reversed.
                          Not necessarily...I mean I get the decision somewhat, but Sony always bills itself as doing what's good for the gamer (like when they ripped on MS digital stuff during their E3 that year)...

                          With Minecraft it could cost them, EG is right. My nephews are obsessed with Minecraft and love to all play in the same level. They use ipads, but also own consoles, so would definitely see them using that if they could.

                          Why would someone play Minecraft on a version they couldn't share with anyone? I guess Sony doesn't need those gamers.

                          Same with EA Access and others...That's a great option for gamers, but Sony refuses...

                          At this point they can afford to not give a crap, but might catch up to them eventually. PS2 era they got cocky and paid for it with the PS3 struggles...so not unheard of for them to fall from grace.
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                          • daniel77733
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                            • Nov 2011
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                            #118
                            Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by mgoblue
                            Not necessarily...I mean I get the decision somewhat, but Sony always bills itself as doing what's good for the gamer (like when they ripped on MS digital stuff during their E3 that year)...

                            With Minecraft it could cost them, EG is right. My nephews are obsessed with Minecraft and love to all play in the same level. They use ipads, but also own consoles, so would definitely see them using that if they could.

                            Why would someone play Minecraft on a version they couldn't share with anyone? I guess Sony doesn't need those gamers.

                            Same with EA Access and others...That's a great option for gamers, but Sony refuses...

                            At this point they can afford to not give a crap, but might catch up to them eventually. PS2 era they got cocky and paid for it with the PS3 struggles...so not unheard of for them to fall from grace.
                            I do agree 100% but when you're the market leader and dominating, you can pretty much do what you want. Also, if Microsoft was at 60M and they were in Sony's position, they would do the exact same thing.

                            They should do it but they won't. In fairness though, Spencer bashes the exclusivity that Sony has for Destiny but he's done it for not only DLC but also games. And last gen, when Microsoft had the majority of deals and were considered the market leader, no one at Microsoft was complaining.

                            I realized a very long time ago that they are ALL full of crap period. They only complain when it's not to their benefit. And I also realize that every publisher are what they are.

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                            • ODogg
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #119
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                              These companies are multi-million dollar companies that exist to make profit. They aren't our friends, nor do they owe any of us anything. Just remember there may be some really cool gamers working for them, guys like Phil Spencer even running the show, but the machine is always bigger than any one person.
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                              • Boltman
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #120
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                                Sony don't give a **** about that minecraft crossplay. I don't either. I'm actually in agreement with daniel here, holy hell.

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