New PlayStation 5 Details Revealed, Arrives Next Holiday Season

[peter42O]

Re: New PlayStation 5 Details Revealed, Arrives Next Holiday Season

Agree with mestevo in regards to Ray Tracing > Resolution. Add in HDR and oh boy, oh boy!!! Can't wait!!!

I don't see Sony doing remasters because they'll have the ability to patch in PS5 features into the PS4 games and releasing remasters would just be seen as a cash grab.

My launch lineup prediction -
- Ratchet & Clank 2
- Killzone 5 (or a new FPS IP from Guerrilla Games second team)
- Bluepoint's remake (expected to be Demon's Souls)
- New Uncharted game (from the new San Diego studio... Rumored to be Uncharted 5 but im hoping for Lost Legacy 2)
- At least two smaller titles

[youvalss]

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I actually think there is going to be a decent jump in graphics. But it's up to game develpoers to make it happen. You know, whether we get 2K14 or Live 14...

And agree on the BC, I sure hope I can play all my PS4 games on it. There are some games I can see myself diving into again every couple of years, especially open world games like WD/WD2/Mafia 3.

[georgiafan]

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I saw a IGN poll and like the 50% of the reason that people was most excited for the PS5 was backwards compatible. I don't get why the #1 reason you want a new console is to play old games. Its cool and all but that's the #1 reason for so many people ?

[mestevo]

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My number 1 reason to buy a PS5 right now is Spider-Man. Don't really expect anything else to be announced that I'm more interested in before launch.

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[Smallville102001]

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So being that ps5 has a 4k bluray player something that pro should have had in the first place, and also sounds like it will be able to play ps4 games is good news. I would have gotten a pro if it had the 4k player. Those two things make it more likely that I get a ps5 on day 1. Now got to wait for price, release date and games. What it looks like sure I want to known but its not really important. A lot of people say 400 but I think it will be 500 and cost 600 to make so that way they can make it a little more future prof. So sale at a lose of 100 and maybe after a year or 2 it can be sold at even and money is always made on games, controllers etc and I dont think consoles can stay like 400 for ever and 500 now is a lot different then 600 back with ps3 has 600 in 2006 money is 750 in todays money. If ps5 gets either a ratchet and clank game on day 1 or Horizon zero dawn 2 on one day I am 100% sure to get one and I think it is very likely that we get one of those on day 1 I could even see both. I wonder with the statement about BC after what they had said about ps4 games back in April if that means they are trying to make ps1-ps4 all able to play on ps5. What they said about BC makes me worry some because it kind of sounds like they are back tracking but I think after what was said in April if it ended up being just some ps4 games can be played on ps5 and not all of them I think they would get a lot of hate now. So that is why I wonder if its more about ps1-ps4 thing. I dont think it is likely to be able to do that but would be awesome if it could. I only have a ps3 and 4 but it would be awesome to be able to get rid of those 2 and save a little bit of money and space. I have so many things connected to my tv right now already and ps5 having a 4k player already means I can get rid of my current 4k player when ps5 comes out.

[mestevo]

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Backward compatibility is a reasonable expectation but Sony has been less that explicit that it's happening, just that 'they're trying'.

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[Smallville102001]

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The features sound good. I curious to see how the latency could be like with the haptic feedback and adaptive triggers. I'm curious to see how each developer takes advantage of the more powerful consoles. I'm sure some would go for more visuals to show how life like the game could. But I'm really curious to see if how much of a jump we will see in graphics. Since we aren't really getting higher resolution(besides Native 4k), I'm curious how much more better the game looks. No one will expect a PS2/Xbox to PS3/360 jump in visuals, but do want to see better textures and smoother animations throughout games.

I'm on the fence whether I want to buy game at launch or wait. According it won't be an issue, especially if a company has a good trade in deals with PS4 Pro and PS4 models. But my thing is, I haven't bought the last couple consoles at launch. I don't think I had PS3 at launch, I was still a teen and I was bought the cheaper models. I bought the PS4 a year after launch. I had no plans on getting the Pro. I got it as a gift. So I do feel like I can wait. Especially since sports games are the main games I play faithfully. Most of the times, launch sports games are stripped down. Also isn't a big enough game catalog for me at launch, where I don't want it to be mainly just one game I'm playing for 10+ months. But if the PS5 is fully backwards compatible to the PS4, that would give me a reason to buy PS5 sooner. I would be able to still buy games for PS4 and play it on PS5 for the first year. My main issue is that I hope there isn't a need for a mid gen refresh. I just want to buy one console and not have to second guess myself. So for me, if they have a good trade in deal. Where if I cut at least $200 by trading in PS4 Pro and Base PS4 at launch, I will heavily consider it.

I am not sure if you will be able to get 200 for trading in a ps4 by the time ps5 comes out. Right now ps4 pro cost 400 and slim 300 and you got to think they will both get a price cut at some point before ps5 comes out. If Ps4 was killing things in sales they both would likely be cheaper already. So if they both get just a 50 price cut to make them 350 and 250 I dont see getting 200 for a trade in has that would be more then 50% of the price for even the pro new. That seems high. About graphic jumps I think it depends. If you go from ps4 and xbox one and not the pro and x I think you will be more blown away having never played a console game at 4k ever before. If you go from pro or x where you have maybe played some 4k or at least kind of in between 1080p and 4k like 1440p-1800p type of thing I think you will be less impressed. Also like all console I am sure you will get more impressive graphics more in like years 3-6 on the consoles life then you will in the first 2 years or so.

I'm interested in backwards compatibility and whether or not my PS4 digital library will carry over. I don't have room to house all these consoles (PS2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and classic).

What I also wonder about like digital and what not is even if its a game you have on a disk but has a lot of DLC and its stuff has been pulled from the store can you still keep the DLC on ps5? For example I have drive club on ps4 and the game had a lot of dlc now that its dlc and I think the game its self have been pulled from the store I dont think there is a way to get the dlc back if say your systems breaks or something. So with ps5 will I be able to transfer the dlc over to ps5 now that its dlc has been pulled or if I want to be able to play the games dlc do I have to keep my ps4?

I saw a IGN poll and like the 50% of the reason that people was most excited for the PS5 was backwards compatible. I don't get why the #1 reason you want a new console is to play old games. Its cool and all but that's the #1 reason for so many people ?

Yeah its cool saves space and money you can get back for your old consoles but new consoles are about being able to play games you couldn't before and better graphics.

My number 1 reason to buy a PS5 right now is Spider-Man. Don't really expect anything else to be announced that I'm more interested in before launch.

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Spiderman sequel on ps5 on day 1? Is that what you mean? I think a sequel is more likely late maybe middle 2021. By time ps5 comes out it will have only been 2 years sense the first game. I think Horizon zero dawn 2 day 1 is likely though has be the time ps5 comes out it will have been 3.5 years or so sense the first game.

[mestevo]

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It was in response to the backward compatibility comments, the current Spider-Man game is my biggest reason to want a PS5 right now.

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[illwill10]

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I am not sure if you will be able to get 200 for trading in a ps4 by the time ps5 comes out. Right now ps4 pro cost 400 and slim 300 and you got to think they will both get a price cut at some point before ps5 comes out. If Ps4 was killing things in sales they both would likely be cheaper already. So if they both get just a 50 price cut to make them 350 and 250 I dont see getting 200 for a trade in has that would be more then 50% of the price for even the pro new. That seems high. About graphic jumps I think it depends. If you go from ps4 and xbox one and not the pro and x I think you will be more blown away having never played a console game at 4k ever before. If you go from pro or x where you have maybe played some 4k or at least kind of in between 1080p and 4k like 1440p-1800p type of thing I think you will be less impressed. Also like all console I am sure you will get more impressive graphics more in like years 3-6 on the consoles life then you will in the first 2 years or so.

I meant for both Pro and Base combined. But $200 then is still little hopeful. $150 for both as a trade in deal would be nice. I'm guessing price will be anywhere between $500-600. So if I can only play $300-450, I will be willing to buy at launch. Because let's say if you wait a year or 2 for a sale, that's what the sale would most likely be anyway. I'm just hoping there isn't a need for a mid gen refresh.

Graphics isn't a huge concern for me. I'm sure we will see improved graphics, so I'm good. We usually don't see the full power of new consoles until like year 3-4 because they are still trying to keep the previous console revelant.

BC isn't huge for me. Just because I don't buy games that often. I usually just rent games. But I would be interested if they are BC to PS3 games or expand the library of PS3 games.

I'm more interested in if developers can start having improved AI in video games. Especially in sports games. Improved graphics and all that is nice. But if AI still has to be psychic or play terrible, we will be in same state we are in now

[peter42O]

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I saw a IGN poll and like the 50% of the reason that people was most excited for the PS5 was backwards compatible. I don't get why the #1 reason you want a new console is to play old games. Its cool and all but that's the #1 reason for so many people ?

For me, it's Hardware Based Ray Tracing by far. Second would be faster load times. As for BC, it's great to have and a good consumer friendly move but it's a small percentage that actually care about it. Look at PS Now for example being the only way to play PS3 games. It was confirmed to be 700k a few months ago and has probably increased a little bit due to the recent price drop to $10 and addition of a few exclusives for three months but let's say it's 1m subscribers. Out of 100m, that's literally only 1% and only if all 1m are subscriber mainly for PS3 games.

BC should be an option for those who want it but yeah, when I buy a new multi-hundred dollar console, it's not to play the past gen games. Thankfully, all I have is a three game backlog. Middle-Earth: Shadow of War, Ratchet & Clank and Red Dead Redemption 2. One of them (most likely RDR 2) will be done before TLOUP2 releases.

[peter42O]

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I meant for both Pro and Base combined. But $200 then is still little hopeful. $150 for both as a trade in deal would be nice. I'm guessing price will be anywhere between $500-600. So if I can only play $300-450, I will be willing to buy at launch. Because let's say if you wait a year or 2 for a sale, that's what the sale would most likely be anyway. I'm just hoping there isn't a need for a mid gen refresh.

Graphics isn't a huge concern for me. I'm sure we will see improved graphics, so I'm good. We usually don't see the full power of new consoles until like year 3-4 because they are still trying to keep the previous console revelant.

BC isn't huge for me. Just because I don't buy games that often. I usually just rent games. But I would be interested if they are BC to PS3 games or expand the library of PS3 games.

I'm more interested in if developers can start having improved AI in video games. Especially in sports games. Improved graphics and all that is nice. But if AI still has to be psychic or play terrible, we will be in same state we are in now

GameStop is giving $200 for PS4 Pro, $160 for 1TB PS4 Slim and $140 for 500GB PS4 Original. Chances are they will have trade in deals towards the next gen consoles in order to try to drive business to their stores. I'm expecting both next gen consoles to be $500 at launch. I also hope that there's no mid-gen console but I wouldn't be surprised if there was and it featured 8K CBR. LOL.

I believe that while the visuals will improve, it won't be a massive leap but the addition of Ray Tracing, full RGB HDR and better performance and AI will easily make up for that.

I was renting games from GameFly over the summer to catch up on the backlogged games (down to three for the gen baby!!! woohoo!!! lol).

Agree with you 100% in regards to AI especially sports games but I believe that as long as there's a yearly sports game which at best means a 9 month development cycle, you may be hard pressed to get what you're looking for in sports games in regards to AI. I believe that the developers need more time than 9 months.

[illwill10]

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GameStop is giving $200 for PS4 Pro, $160 for 1TB PS4 Slim and $140 for 500GB PS4 Original. Chances are they will have trade in deals towards the next gen consoles in order to try to drive business to their stores. I'm expecting both next gen consoles to be $500 at launch. I also hope that there's no mid-gen console but I wouldn't be surprised if there was and it featured 8K CBR. LOL.

I believe that while the visuals will improve, it won't be a massive leap but the addition of Ray Tracing, full RGB HDR and better performance and AI will easily make up for that.

I was renting games from GameFly over the summer to catch up on the backlogged games (down to three for the gen baby!!! woohoo!!! lol).

Agree with you 100% in regards to AI especially sports games but I believe that as long as there's a yearly sports game which at best means a 9 month development cycle, you may be hard pressed to get what you're looking for in sports games in regards to AI. I believe that the developers need more time than 9 months.

Thats why I figured I could get a decent trade in deal. Maybe the trade in decreases, but with the state Game Stop is in, I'm sure they will try to bring in whatever business. So if I can knock off a big chunk by trading in both consoles, I'm definitely buying.
I usually only buy sports games. I don't play online, so most non sports games don't have the depth I want to buy. So I just Gamefly most games.

I agree. Thats why I wouldn't be opposed to go bi-annual or like some thing similar to UFC. We usually don't see a jump in the game each year. I rather they have more time to develop games. But those companies aren't going to want to lose out on all the money they gain from annual release.

[mestevo]

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GameStop will be closing hundreds of stores between now and launch, I'd be careful counting on any big deals when the time comes, but we'll see.

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[peter42O]

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Thats why I figured I could get a decent trade in deal. Maybe the trade in decreases, but with the state Game Stop is in, I'm sure they will try to bring in whatever business. So if I can knock off a big chunk by trading in both consoles, I'm definitely buying.
I usually only buy sports games. I don't play online, so most non sports games don't have the depth I want to buy. So I just Gamefly most games.

I agree. Thats why I wouldn't be opposed to go bi-annual or like some thing similar to UFC. We usually don't see a jump in the game each year. I rather they have more time to develop games. But those companies aren't going to want to lose out on all the money they gain from annual release.

Yeah, GameStop is even having a trade in deal now towards the X where if you trade in a PS4 Pro towards it, they give you $300 credit so I can definitely see them having good deals because getting you into the store to buy the console means that you'll most likely buy games, an extra controller and whatnot.

I don't play online whatsoever either. I'm a pure single player console gamer. But I also don't collect games whatsoever. Once they're done, I trade them in. I was going to GameFly majority of upcoming games but despite having both slots open, I didn't get Control when it released which pissed me off since I didn't have any games out at all so I just said screw this. I was paying $25 and I figure that most games will cost me between $20-$30 depending on the trade in value, GCU and if they came with a $10 cert or gift card.

I recently pre-ordered eight games that release between COD MW and The Avengers. Figured im saving $12 off each game, getting $60 back via certificates and will trade them in to GameStop and add to my already almost $400 in trade in credit.

Yeah, the sports games make a crap ton of cash especially all that fantasy team stuff or whatever it is in Madden and Fifa. Don't know what it's called but it's that mode that made EA $800M a year or two ago. I understand why they don't do it but at the same time, gamers keep buying them every year so they will never stop until gamers stop buying them.

Shame because with at least a two year dev cycle, they could really improve a lot of stuff because the devs wouldn't feel rushed like they currently are every year.

GameStop will be closing hundreds of stores between now and launch, I'd be careful counting on any big deals when the time comes, but we'll see.

Their plan is close between 180-200 underperforming stores by the end of their fiscal year which would be March 31st, 2020. That may sound like a lot but it's almost nothing. They have over 5700 stores worldwide. It's literally under 4% of their stores which is nothing especially if those stores are losing money.

GameStop can easily survive but they need someone smart to turn it around and focus on gaming along with incentive to keep consumers into their eco-system and eliminate the crap that they sell which doesn't make any profits or at the very least, doesn't break even.

I do believe that they have at least a few years left and with next gen being huge for them, they do have an opportunity to turn things around. I for one hope they do.

[XxGamerXx]

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For me, it's Hardware Based Ray Tracing by far. Second would be faster load times. As for BC, it's great to have and a good consumer friendly move but it's a small percentage that actually care about it. Look at PS Now for example being the only way to play PS3 games. It was confirmed to be 700k a few months ago and has probably increased a little bit due to the recent price drop to $10 and addition of a few exclusives for three months but let's say it's 1m subscribers. Out of 100m, that's literally only 1% and only if all 1m are subscriber mainly for PS3 games.

BC should be an option for those who want it but yeah, when I buy a new multi-hundred dollar console, it's not to play the past gen games. Thankfully, all I have is a three game backlog. Middle-Earth: Shadow of War, Ratchet & Clank and Red Dead Redemption 2. One of them (most likely RDR 2) will be done before TLOUP2 releases.

You are going to be highly disappointing if ray tracing on consoles is what has you hyped. That type of ray tracing is going to be garbage compared to what is offered on pc.

Once you go 144fps even 60fps feels sluggish