Xbox Games Showcase Discussion

[XxGamerXx]

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Halo will be fine when it releases in November and it will see more then anything on any console the first 3 months.

Once they patch in RT it will look even better. We can go back to this post when the game releases and people will be saying how great it looks and feels at 60fps

Am far more excited for what State of Decay is going to actually look and play like. Digital Foundry basically called MS liars about that trailer saying that this is not state of decay

[YuNgWuN]

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Halo will be fine when it releases in November and it will see more then anything on any console the first 3 months.

Once they patch in RT it will look even better. We can go back to this post when the game releases and people will be saying how great it looks and feels at 60fps

Am far more excited for what State of Decay is going to actually look and play like. Digital Foundry basically called MS liars about that trailer saying that this is not state of decay

We will gladly revisit this. It's the art man it's the lack of movement in the world it just comes across as stale.. it's the fact it's a mere couple months off release and that's what they showed. Sorry the graphics might get ray tracing but the art design is still going to be stale. The cliffs look like minecraft cliffs.
Anyways I'm done with this I'm being super negative even though I really do think it looks that bland.

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[mestevo]

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Quite the technical dive into why Halo looks the way it is.

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[XxGamerXx]

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We will gladly revisit this. It's the art man it's the lack of movement in the world it just comes across as stale.. it's the fact it's a mere couple months off release and that's what they showed. Sorry the graphics might get ray tracing but the art design is still going to be stale. The cliffs look like minecraft cliffs.
Anyways I'm done with this I'm being super negative even though I really do think it looks that bland.

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movement in the world, you claim you love sony exclusives but all their games have empty worlds, is the only way to achieve fidelity of any kind at 30fps. Name me a sony story based exclusive with things in the world

Uncharted? You move through a mostly empty world and have set pieces with dumb a.i enemies in all 4 games.

Last of us 1 and 2? Empty worlds with set pieces. Part 2 gameplay improved a lot but of the same ilk and the world is still empty.

Spiderman? Has a lot of people that all mostly look the same and are all mostly in areas you rarely visit which is the ground. Most of the time you swing through buildings with no A.I present except set pieces you fight in construction sites

God of War? Empty world again with set pieces

See a pattern? Those games are great mostly on the base of their great story telling which is vital in a game IMO and the only game that did something with their combat that I felt was next gen was God of War

Halo is an open world 60fps game. You saw 7 minutes of one area that had more action and LOD plus 60fps then any sony first party game. That Halo demo would not be possible on xbox one

Most people loved the gameplay but were taken back by the visuals that did not melt their eyes. I feel the visual art is what 343 is going for.

This seems more like a remake then a new game

[YuNgWuN]

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movement in the world, you claim you love sony exclusives but all their games have empty worlds, is the only way to achieve fidelity of any kind at 30fps. Name me a sony story based exclusive with things in the world

Uncharted? You move through a mostly empty world and have set pieces with dumb a.i enemies in all 4 games.

Last of us 1 and 2? Empty worlds with set pieces. Part 2 gameplay improved a lot but of the same ilk and the world is still empty.

Spiderman? Has a lot of people that all mostly look the same and are all mostly in areas you rarely visit which is the ground. Most of the time you swing through buildings with no A.I present except set pieces you fight in construction sites

God of War? Empty world again with set pieces

See a pattern? Those games are great mostly on the base of their great story telling which is vital in a game IMO and the only game that did something with their combat that I felt was next gen was God of War

Halo is an open world 60fps game. You saw 7 minutes of one area that had more action and LOD plus 60fps then any sony first party game. That Halo demo would not be possible on xbox one

Most people loved the gameplay but were taken back by the visuals that did not melt their eyes. I feel the visual art is what 343 is going for.

This seems more like a remake then a new game

We are literally going in circles. The art in god of war is some of the best I've ever seen ditto for last if us part 2. The art in this halo is flat. I brought up the art and how the world looked bland like the cliffs the trees all looking the same. The grass. EVERYTHING looks bland.

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[YuNgWuN]

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I never claimed to love sony exclusives. I said they do it differently that's all. Movement wasn't referring to tons of of npc's moving around? The trees look all the same no movement ditto for the grass.. the guns sounded crappy. It just generally fell flat to me. You liked it and that's fine. You know I didnt bring up sony man.

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[XxGamerXx]

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We are literally going in circles. The art in god of war is some of the best I've ever seen ditto for last if us part 2. The art in this halo is flat. I brought up the art and how the world looked bland like the cliffs the trees all looking the same. The grass. EVERYTHING looks bland.

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Yes nobody debating God of War and Last of us 2 but what do those games not do?

They do not do 60fps 4k and are not open world with real time lighting.

If 343 wanted to pump out the world graphics like God of War and LOU2 then you would get a 30fps game with no open world.

Is that what you want?

[XxGamerXx]

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I never claimed to love sony exclusives. I said they do it differently that's all. Movement wasn't referring to tons of of npc's moving around? The trees look all the same no movement ditto for the grass.. the guns sounded crappy. It just generally fell flat to me. You liked it and that's fine. You know I didnt bring up sony man.

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How can the game be looked upon as an xbox 360 graphical quality.

Look at this 4k feed, the guns sound amazing with bass

There is A.I in the world, birds flying around in groups and some sitting on metal edges and then flying away when you get close.

Grass? Is cut short so that is not going to move but look at the draw distance and look at the trees which are all of high rez and not low textures from a distance

The issue is the real time lighting that removes the texture details but with RT coming post launch and pop in fixed in last 4 months you will see how great the game turns out

It will never win an award for amazing visuals because they are going for real time physics and A.I in the world as well as real day time night cycle. all at 4k 60fps in an OPEN world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZtc5-syeAk

[YuNgWuN]

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How can the game be looked upon as an xbox 360 graphical quality.

Look at this 4k feed, the guns sound amazing with bass

There is A.I in the world, birds flying around in groups and some sitting on metal edges and then flying away when you get close.

Grass? Is cut short so that is not going to move but look at the draw distance and look at the trees which are all of high rez and not low textures from a distance

The issue is the real time lighting that removes the texture details but with RT coming post launch and pop in fixed in last 4 months you will see how great the game turns out

It will never win an award for amazing visuals because they are going for real time physics and A.I in the world as well as real day time night cycle. all at 4k 60fps in an OPEN world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZtc5-syeAk

Yup that's the only issue. Lol ok man. No I watched that feed and I still don't think the guns sound great. I dont understand why it's a big deal that it was very underwhelming. I've passed on the last 2 halos after playing 1-3 multiplayer for thousands of hours.. made general ffs. I expected big things and it didnt deliver AT ALL. Lots of people feel this way it's not like I'm on a island here.

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