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  • Scottdau
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    • Feb 2003
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    #46
    Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

    Originally posted by BGarrett7
    1) "Take It Easy"
    2) Henley doesn't sing either song
    3) Saying those two songs sound alike in any way is absolutely absurd
    No but Glenn does. Listen to it. They do sound alike. Maybe not to you but they do to me. Not that that a bad thing. I love the Eagles. I am just saying most bands keep the same sound. When you have the same singer and same guatar player it is hard to sound different. You play your own style. I grew up with Billy Joe Armstrong and he still plays the same style he did than. You can talk all you want about Greenday sucking, but they made it big time, so something work lol.

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    • Scottdau
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      • Feb 2003
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      #47
      Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

      Originally posted by CM1847
      Is that why a group of fans got together and tried to sue the band for their money back because the concert they went to was just that horrible?

      When did you see Creed by the way? After their first, second or third album?
      I know that is one concert out of how many. I can't say that for other bands!

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      • Scottdau
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        • Feb 2003
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        #48
        Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

        Originally posted by CM1847
        Is that why a group of fans got together and tried to sue the band for their money back because the concert they went to was just that horrible?

        When did you see Creed by the way? After their first, second or third album?
        I think it was after their second ablum. It was about 4 or 5 years ago up by Sac.

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        • Scottdau
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          #49
          Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

          Originally posted by Scottd
          I think it was after their second ablum. It was about 4 or 5 years ago up by Sac.
          tell you the truth it is hard for me to get into this generation of music. That how I know I am getting older lol. I will admitt Nickel Back all their songs sounds alike. Smetimes I wish some bands would.

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          • nofearsp2007
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            • Feb 2005
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            #50
            Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

            Originally posted by elicoleman
            *cringe*

            You couldn't pay me to see Trapt again. The worst live band I've ever seen.

            I loved their first album, but they were atrocious live.
            yea trapt wasnt very good but nickelback and default were great.

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            • Scottdau
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              • Feb 2003
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              #51
              Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

              A lot of bands are studio made!

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
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                #52
                Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                Originally posted by Scottd
                A lot of bands are studio made!
                Care to be a little less vague?

                And there is a difference between a band who plays the same style and all their songs sounding exactly the same. The Eagles have the same style on their albums, yet their songs sound different from one another.



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                • BGarrett7
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #53
                  Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  Who did the vocals?
                  Glenn Frey

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                  • Scottdau
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #54
                    Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    Care to be a little less vague?

                    And there is a difference between a band who plays the same style and all their songs sounding exactly the same. The Eagles have the same style on their albums, yet their songs sound different from one another.
                    What I mean is they don't sound like that live, some do, but some don't. Look you can say the eagles songs are sound different. I just don't hear that. They sound pretty much the same. In my opinion sounding different is not what makes a band great by the way. One of my favorite band is Ac/dc with Bon Scott. But in all truth most of their songs sound the same. Like I said before Nickel Back all their songs sound the same, I agree to that. I just think their are so many haters out their. When the truth is somebody like them. Or they wouldn't have sold so many ablum. That is just like my friends band Green Day they got so big everybody hates them now! But when they were starting out everybody was liking them.

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                    • CM1847
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #55
                      Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                      Originally posted by Scottd
                      What I mean is they don't sound like that live, some do, but some don't. Look you can say the eagles songs are sound different. I just don't hear that. They sound pretty much the same. In my opinion sounding different is not what makes a band great by the way. One of my favorite band is Ac/dc with Bon Scott. But in all truth most of their songs sound the same. Like I said before Nickel Back all their songs sound the same, I agree to that. I just think their are so many haters out their. When the truth is somebody like them. Or they wouldn't have sold so many ablum. That is just like my friends band Green Day they got so big everybody hates them now! But when they were starting out everybody was liking them.
                      The reason that Nickleback is so big is that they get massive radio play. They get it not because they deserve it, but because their record label put money into promoting them. People are lazy, they buy what they hear on the radio oblivious to the ton of better stuff that is being made.

                      And decent live bands can straight up recreate their studio songs in a live setting, meaning they aren't just a product of fancy studio production. That is a decent live band. Good or great live bands take their studio songs and build on them and transform them into something better in a live setting.

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                      • Scottdau
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #56
                        Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                        Originally posted by CM1847
                        The reason that Nickleback is so big is that they get massive radio play. They get it not because they deserve it, but because their record label put money into promoting them. People are lazy, they buy what they hear on the radio oblivious to the ton of better stuff that is being made.

                        And decent live bands can straight up recreate their studio songs in a live setting, meaning they aren't just a product of fancy studio production. That is a decent live band. Good or great live bands take their studio songs and build on them and transform them into something better in a live setting.
                        I agree with everything you said. I like Nickelback, but probably because I hear it so much on the radio. But realize this record companies but all their resouces and money into the bands they think the public will like. Green day was a good band, but MTV made them what they are today. When they were just starting out they were playing in Berkely at some small clubs. Then they did Europe route. And than MTV took over from their.

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                        • CM1847
                          Bacon
                          • Jul 2002
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                          #57
                          Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                          Originally posted by Scottd
                          I agree with everything you said. I like Nickelback, but probably because I hear it so much on the radio. But realize this record companies but all their resouces and money into the bands they think the public will like. Green day was a good band, but MTV made them what they are today. When they were just starting out they were playing in Berkely at some small clubs. Then they did Europe route. And than MTV took over from their.
                          Yes, a bunch of old men make decisions about what bands to push based on what they think would be most popular. This has nothing to do with how good a band is, just how popular they might become. Was the band O-Town created and pushed because they were GOOD or becaues they knew they would be popular due to all of the similar boy bands out there at the time? With Creed, Staind and all of the other legions of Pearl Jam rip-offs out, of course the record company thought it would be a good(money making) idea to push Nickleback. Was it because they deserved to be pushed based on talent? of course not, they were pushed because they were similar to the current popular bands at that time so the chances of them making money were high.

                          And of course, MOST popular bands can thank similar situations for their rise to fame. The difference goes back to why this thread was started, most bands evolve in some form or another. But bad bands stay stuck in their songwriting methods and don't try to change in fear of losing that popularity(money) they had gained up to that point. Green Day made Dookie which was massive, then went right back and changed it up with Insomniac, then follow that up with the "Time of Your Life" song. They matrued, changed they sound accordingly and kept evolving into a political band that they are today. If anybody still cares about Nickleback in 2011(ten years after they became popular) and they are singing about things besides "I like you when you're on your knees", then I will probably have a little more respect for them. But I seriously don't think that will happen.

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                          • Scottdau
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #58
                            Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                            Originally posted by CM1847
                            Yes, a bunch of old men make decisions about what bands to push based on what they think would be most popular. This has nothing to do with how good a band is, just how popular they might become. Was the band O-Town created and pushed because they were GOOD or becaues they knew they would be popular due to all of the similar boy bands out there at the time? With Creed, Staind and all of the other legions of Pearl Jam rip-offs out, of course the record company thought it would be a good(money making) idea to push Nickleback. Was it because they deserved to be pushed based on talent? of course not, they were pushed because they were similar to the current popular bands at that time so the chances of them making money were high.

                            And of course, MOST popular bands can thank similar situations for their rise to fame. The difference goes back to why this thread was started, most bands evolve in some form or another. But bad bands stay stuck in their songwriting methods and don't try to change in fear of losing that popularity(money) they had gained up to that point. Green Day made Dookie which was massive, then went right back and changed it up with Insomniac, then follow that up with the "Time of Your Life" song. They matrued, changed they sound accordingly and kept evolving into a political band that they are today. If anybody still cares about Nickleback in 2011(ten years after they became popular) and they are singing about things besides "I like you when you're on your knees", then I will probably have a little more respect for them. But I seriously don't think that will happen.
                            yep. But you never know. Their are a lot of Bands that I thought would be one hit wonders and are still around lol. I think you are correct about Nickelback. But even bands that are good might face that same future. It is a rough business!

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                            • CM1847
                              Bacon
                              • Jul 2002
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                              #59
                              Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                              Originally posted by Scottd
                              yep. But you never know. Their are a lot of Bands that I thought would be one hit wonders and are still around lol. I think you are correct about Nickelback. But even bands that are good might face that same future. It is a rough business!
                              You're right, we can never tell. I just think your example of Green Day is off because they were sort of doing their own thing when they broke. Grunge was big, Green Day was the first punk/pop band to break big really. Nickleback was just another in the line of boring new rock bands when they came out. All just opinions though, keep enjoying them and don't listen to what anybody else says!

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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
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                                #60
                                Re: Nickelback - I Had To Laugh.

                                Originally posted by Scottd
                                yep. But you never know. Their are a lot of Bands that I thought would be one hit wonders and are still around lol. I think you are correct about Nickelback. But even bands that are good might face that same future. It is a rough business!
                                The way of the one-hit wonders has almost completely been killed off. With music sales declining over the past 5-10 years, record companies no longer have the funds (or time) to market a band that only produces one "hit single." The only reason Nickelback's songs are "catchy" or "popular" is because the songs become so engrained into the listener's brain, the song becomes so familar (especially when its almost the exact same single over and over again) that the ear automatically picks up on it and it becomes catchy to us. Record companies don't have the money to go looking for talent every year, much less invest money into a fresh band with no fan base or a true original sound - record companies simply play off other bands and other record labels to see what is popular and what truly sells. It has nothing to do with talent or how good a band is, it has everything to do with marketability.



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