Mel Gibson behaving badly

[pk500]

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Mel Gibson is yet another Hollywood cliche. Big celebrity acts like an azzhole, claims he has a "disease" in a repentant press release and goes into rehab immediately after his misdeeds jeopardize his career.

As if we've never seen this happen before. And as if we even care.

What a dick.

Take care,
PK

[daflyboys]

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Mel Gibson is yet another Hollywood cliche. Big celebrity acts like an azzhole, claims he has a "disease" in a repentant press release and goes into rehab immediately after his misdeeds jeopardize his career.

Well, you can thank the rehab/psych industry for bringing in the whole "disease" model in this arena. Millions of people attest to that being accurate versus it being poor judgment/choices.....which has led to, of course, everything being a disease.

As far as Passion of the Christ being anti-Semitic, not a chance. If anything it was anti-Roman Soldier.....and I don't think there's a whole lot of them around these days!

[EWRMETS]

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Alcohol affects everyone differently so "he knew exactly what he was saying" is a complete guess on your part. Unless you have studied Mel's neurological makeup.

When I get hammered, I don't start saying extremely racist things. Saying "Jews are responsible for all the world's wars" is not some random drunken comment that someone would say.

[armistead]

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On Good Morning America this morning, the responding police officer says that he was told to redo his police report and take out the comments made by Mel and put them in a supplemental report as the supplemental report is not available to the public.

[fishepa]

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When I get hammered, I don't start saying extremely racist things. Saying "Jews are responsible for all the world's wars" is not some random drunken comment that someone would say.

Very true.

[Skerik]

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Some pretty funny stuff here.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/08/gibsonpalooza_video/

[EWRMETS]

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Im more wondering why noone is making more of a big deal out of his DWI's than his comments. Which is the most harmful?

Because people hear about actors getting DWIs everyday. It's not everyday you hear an Oscar winning actor say the stuff that Mel Gibson said.

[bball_1523]

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has anyone seen a video interview with Mel Gibson about this issue?

[p2xgamers]

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DWI is serious, don't get me wrong but a public figure saying things like this has and should receive more attention. There is no clinic for antisemitism.

Although I appreciate some sticking up for him and I have never thought he was anti-semitic and thought he was a great guy and actor, but this incident, to me was definitely not "drunk speaking". I'll just lay this out, hopefully people haven't said this already here:

1. His BAC was .12 which is definitely drunk, but not to the point where you make racist remarks that you make up on the spot, despite not being racist. You can say that I am not a neurologist and you are right, but if you can find an example of someone making up racist remarks when they are not racist in any way in real life, I will take this back.

2. His dad is anti-semitic. I know for example my grandmother is mildly racist but neither my mother, myself or anyone else in my immediate family is, but his father being anti-semitic (yes denying the holocaust in its magnitude due to the huge amount of evidence shows a high likelihood of being anti-semitic).

Also, I agree 100% with pk. Again, DWI is very serious but in this situation offending millions of people is more important since nothing serious happened when he was caught (crash, at the time the DWI was of course more important). Funny yesterday Entertainment Tonight (hey nothing is on at 2 AM!) completely disregarded what he said, saying it was made up, now they get to eat there words.

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Because people hear about actors getting DWIs everyday. It's not everyday you hear an Oscar winning actor say the stuff that Mel Gibson said.

Sure thing. If someone had died then it would be a whole new ballgame.

There are politicians and leaders of countries that speak this kind of stuff, actually worse on a daily basis and noone says anything. Its a joke.

[p2xgamers]

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Sure thing. If someone had died then it would be a whole new ballgame.

There are politicians and leaders of countries that speak this kind of stuff, actually worse on a daily basis and noone says anything. Its a joke.

You are right for the first part. DWI has happened to many celebrities whereas coming out as an anti-semitic, hasn't happened to many at all, if any. Legally a DWI should be serious of course whereas being anti-semitic has no merit.

By no means is a DWI not extremely serious, considering he could of easily killed people as it has happened thousands of times. But at the same time nothing happened and everyone is fine, I am over that and have moved on to if I should see his movies considering he has something against Jewish people. (which can cause messages in movies that no one wants) And I would expect TV shows to talk more about this than the DWI considering we know all the facts about the DWI whereas this whole anti-semitism is being questioned. (hence debate, pointless to debate about a DWI)

[Mashiasu]

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1. His BAC was .12 which is definitely drunk, but not to the point where you make racist remarks that you make up on the spot.

First of all this post isn't against p2x, He or She brought up an interesting point abought BAC which I would like to comment about depending on your body type and frequency of drinking .12 can make you beligerent to the point of blacking out, while in others, would not give them a buzz. So i don't buy that theory.

I'll admit I dont know the whole story of what was said. (harvey levin has been a media prostitute on every station in L.A lynching Gibson while getting some of his story mixed up so I have zoned out)

was the J word just used in an inflamatory manner or where other anti-sematic words used?

I apoligize if I offended anyone just would like to hear both sides objectivly.

Thanks for your time,

Mashiasu

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You are right for the first part. DWI has happened to many celebrities whereas coming out as an anti-semitic, hasn't happened to many at all, if any. Legally a DWI should be serious of course whereas being anti-semitic has no merit.

By no means is a DWI not extremely serious, considering he could of easily killed people as it has happened thousands of times. But at the same time nothing happened and everyone is fine, I am over that and have moved on to if I should see his movies considering he has something against Jewish people. (which can cause messages in movies that no one wants) And I would expect TV shows to talk more about this than the DWI considering we know all the facts about the DWI whereas this whole anti-semitism is being questioned. (hence debate, pointless to debate about a DWI)

I hope you never get pulled over for a DWI, let alone 3 of them like he has, because they wont let you go.

I find this post alot of hogwash. You probably watch the news and television shows that have views and agendas against certain groups of people every day.

It shouldnt even be a debate really. If it wasnt Mel Gibson noone would care.If it was me you'd call me a biggot and move on with your life.

I find if funny and hypocritical how you can rustle out one guy for comments as such and ignore them coming from far more influencial people in the world.

[p2xgamers]

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First of all this post isn't against p2x, He or She brought up an interesting point abought BAC which I would like to comment about depending on your body type and frequency of drinking .12 can make you beligerent to the point of blacking out, while in others, would not give them a buzz. So i don't buy that theory.

Of course, though it appears he was not that drunk at all. Several people with him said that there was no slurring, he could stand up fine and infact was in a good mood and was polite. Have no idea what switched him from happy to mad and racist.

was the J word just used in an inflamatory manner or where other anti-sematic words used?

J word, Jew? That's not a bad word though I guess you are referring to a different word I have not heard of yet. He blamed them for all the wars in the worlds and said "****ing jews". (hope that is bleeped out)

I hope you never get pulled over for a DWI, let alone 3 of them like he has, because they wont let you go.

I find this post alot of hogwash. You probably watch the news and television shows that have views and agendas against certain groups of people every day.

It shouldnt even be a debate really. If it wasnt Mel Gibson noone would care.If it was me you'd call me a biggot and move on with your life.

I find if funny and hypocritical how you can rustle out one guy for comments as such and ignore them coming from far more influencial people in the world.

This is nothing against you, but I don't get what you are trying to prove anymore. Of course if it wasn't Mel Gibson I wouldn't give a crap, no offense, but that's obvious. If it was a normal everyday person I would be upset but in the end they would likely have no influence and thus, they would get there punishment in some form. With Mel Gibson he will blame the alcohol and further make money and fame.

Also nothing against you but you assuming, especially that I would watch shows that are against one group is frankly offensive myself. I pride myself as being as much in the middle ground (not just with politics) as possible. If you want to be specific I watch every major network and that is the truth, Tucker on MSNBC, Sheppard Smith on FOX, Cooper/Situation on CNN and the random other show. Tucker is very balanced, he has views on both sides and although has the same opinion as mine, that doesn't make him against the group. The other two are news programs. Rather than just saying my whole post is hogwash why don't you point out exactly what was and why? I say this all the time - never assume.

The last paragraph is even worse, again no offense, but what are you referring to exactly? I could point out a specific example of a person that is anti-semitic in the world (hint, far away) and I have criticized him greatly but don't want to get this topic political, if you aren't referring to him then who?

Lastly I won't get a DWI (well aside from the whole too poor for a car or insurance thing :P ) because I am not stupid, alcoholism is not a problem in my family either. (infact no one in my family at all has it)

EDIT: Argh if I didn't enjoy debating I wouldn't of posted. I'm not trying to make a big deal of it but I simply think the anti-semitism should not be ignored and should be very important with this. DWI = Probable career, Anti-semitic = No career.

[Brian_OS]

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When I get hammered, I don't start saying extremely racist things. Saying "Jews are responsible for all the world's wars" is not some random drunken comment that someone would say.

Well we are not talking about YOU are we.