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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #16
    Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

    I saw Acts 1 and 2 last night. Have Acts 3 & 4 on my DVR and planning on watching it tonight.

    Watching a documentary is like watching the news. You want information that you don't know about. Well, going into the viewing of this documentary I already knew about this catastrophe of the storm itself and the way the government handled the aftermath of the situation. I had thought that what will be explained in this documentary I'd already watched on the news or read in the newspaper. BUT after watching Acts 1 & 2 there was a lot of stuff that was missed in news reports. Shows how the corporate media controls the waves of information that we are given.

    BigTigLSU had a point about having a hard time watching the documentary because of being a resdient. I'd feel the same way if I grew up in New Orleans. Just picture a place where you and your family and friends grew up in and in just a couple of hours be almost wiped off the map.
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    • Freelance
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 7021

      #17
      Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

      While the tragedy is beyond comprehension, I came away with one overwhelming thought.

      Good gawd these people are lazy.

      ONE YEAR afterward, and so many people are just sitting there waiting for the government to fix everything for them. I would have long by now decided to fix it myself. And before anyone starts, we're talking about white people, Hispanic people, and black people.

      McDonalds and other places were offering several thousand dollars in bonuses and $10-15 in hourly wage for these people to stay, yet these offers went largely unapplied for.

      New Orleans is by far the most corrupt city in the U.S. and has been for decades, yet Nagin got off unscathed in this. Mississippi, which is using its federal resources far better (New Orleans has received much more), is rebuidling itself. New Orleans just sits there and lines their pockets.

      Meanwhile, Houston is sick and tired of the refugees there, who are increasing Houston's crime rate two-fold. 1 in 4 crimes committed in Houston over the past year were from Katrina refugees.

      Learning to live with your hand out all the time leads to this chaos.

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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #18
        Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

        Originally posted by Erod
        While the tragedy is beyond comprehension, I came away with one overwhelming thought.

        Good gawd these people are lazy.

        ONE YEAR afterward, and so many people are just sitting there waiting for the government to fix everything for them. I would have long by now decided to fix it myself. And before anyone starts, we're talking about white people, Hispanic people, and black people.

        McDonalds and other places were offering several thousand dollars in bonuses and $10-15 in hourly wage for these people to stay, yet these offers went largely unapplied for.

        New Orleans is by far the most corrupt city in the U.S. and has been for decades, yet Nagin got off unscathed in this. Mississippi, which is using its federal resources far better (New Orleans has received much more), is rebuidling itself. New Orleans just sits there and lines their pockets.

        Meanwhile, Houston is sick and tired of the refugees there, who are increasing Houston's crime rate two-fold. 1 in 4 crimes committed in Houston over the past year were from Katrina refugees.

        Learning to live with your hand out all the time leads to this chaos.
        Why do people call the survivors of katrina "refugees"?
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        • fsquid
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 17635

          #19
          Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

          That is the thing Erod, many people don't want to go back. They are trying to make it wherever they are now. It is a cycle that people won't come back until all the infrastructure is there, but no one wants to come back and be employed in that infrastructure (doctors for hospitals, fire fighters, etc.)

          I have no clue how you are supposed to rebuild a city from scratch. I don't think many do either since this has never happened before.

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          • Freelance
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 7021

            #20
            Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

            Nor do I understand why you would rebuild a city that is destined to flood again. It's several feet below sea level already.

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            • Freelance
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 7021

              #21
              Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

              Originally posted by jmood88
              Why do people call the survivors of katrina "refugees"?
              Because refugees are people that are trying to escape poor living conditions for a better life elsewhere. I don't understand why that's become such a negative word.

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              • ExtremeGamer
                Extra Life 11/3/18
                • Jul 2002
                • 35299

                #22
                Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                Originally posted by Erod
                Because refugees are people that are trying to escape poor living conditions for a better life elsewhere. I don't understand why that's become such a negative word.
                Because people made it a negative word. These people lost everything.

                It's not on the same scale, but it's close. A few weeks ago here in Cleveland, we had major rain and flooding. Thousands lost their homes and all their belongings. Since we don't flood here, no one had insurance for it, and FEMA gave nothing. These people aren't "refugees", but they are moving on and trying to make the best of their lives. Just remember, this can happen anywhere to anyone, and until you've been in it, you have no idea what they are going through.

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                • SoMiss2000
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 20499

                  #23
                  Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                  Originally posted by Erod
                  Because refugees are people that are trying to escape poor living conditions for a better life elsewhere. I don't understand why that's become such a negative word.
                  normally that's once country to another. you are correct only in definition, but these are american citizens. have a little more respect. we don't have refugees in the United States.
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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #24
                    Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                    Originally posted by Erod
                    Because refugees are people that are trying to escape poor living conditions for a better life elsewhere. I don't understand why that's become such a negative word.
                    Because people are trying to compare them to foreign people who are trying to escape but they are citizens of the us.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #25
                      Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                      Originally posted by Erod
                      While the tragedy is beyond comprehension, I came away with one overwhelming thought.

                      Good gawd these people are lazy.

                      ONE YEAR afterward, and so many people are just sitting there waiting for the government to fix everything for them. I would have long by now decided to fix it myself. And before anyone starts, we're talking about white people, Hispanic people, and black people.

                      McDonalds and other places were offering several thousand dollars in bonuses and $10-15 in hourly wage for these people to stay, yet these offers went largely unapplied for.

                      New Orleans is by far the most corrupt city in the U.S. and has been for decades, yet Nagin got off unscathed in this. Mississippi, which is using its federal resources far better (New Orleans has received much more), is rebuidling itself. New Orleans just sits there and lines their pockets.

                      Meanwhile, Houston is sick and tired of the refugees there, who are increasing Houston's crime rate two-fold. 1 in 4 crimes committed in Houston over the past year were from Katrina refugees.

                      Learning to live with your hand out all the time leads to this chaos.
                      Nagin was'nt the only politician who got of unscathed. Gov. Blanco, the head of Homeland Security and Bush all have pretty much been unscathed too. Big surprise that you focus your attention on the only black politician in the bunch.

                      Also before you start throwing around statistics like 1 in 4 crimes were committed by people displaced by Katrina (big surprise you used the words refugee). I would like to see some evidence to back that up. Not saying it couldnt be true I would just rather take the word of a legitimate new source than yours.

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #26
                        Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                        Originally posted by Erod
                        Because refugees are people that are trying to escape poor living conditions for a better life elsewhere. I don't understand why that's become such a negative word.

                        So if I live in the projects in Baltimore and I move to Atlanta because I want a better life....I can be called a refugee?

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                        • fishepa
                          I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 18989

                          #27
                          Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                          Here is one article.

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                          • Skerik
                            Living in this tube
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 5215

                            #28
                            Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                            A refugee is defined as a person seeking refuge. Synonyms include displaced person, escapee and evacuee.

                            Get over it.
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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #29
                              Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                              Originally posted by fishepa
                              Thanks for the article. A couple of points...first the article states that Katrina evacuees were INVOLVED in 26 homicides (17%) and 19 of those people were victims (15 were suspects). That means that only 7 involved in homicides against residents of Houston. Also it shows that the NO residents were only the cause of around 9-10% of those homicides. Now 9% isnt anything small but it can be expected when you have 200,000 people move to an area and very few of them have jobs. No jobs and oppurtunities = crime. Its a sad but true fact.

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                              • VanCitySportsGuy
                                NYG_Meth
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 9351

                                #30
                                Re: "When the Levees Broke" on HBO

                                I was scrolling through my digital guide last night and found this documentary on. The channel that shows HBO programming isn't part of my digital package though.

                                I'm hoping this documentary gets released on DVD because I want to see it.

                                Spike Lee was in town a few days ago talking about this series and other issues.

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