Jay-z is a Liar!

[jmood88]

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I liked JayZ's past music better.
Rap in general has gone downhill since Biggie and Pac died. Only Eminem and Dre have produced anything worth listening to over the past 5 years or so.
Nowaday's rap or hip-hop sounds like a bunch of circus instruments while some guy barks like a dog.
There's no rythem or catchy beats to any of the new tunes out there.

If you only listen to the "HOT 97-107.5" stations maybe. The radio is not a good place to find good music and that's true for any genre.

[LilLowe]

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The song Kingdom Come is produced by Just Blaze. You can check it out here.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.666/title.jay-z-kingdome-come

You may also wanna check out this article:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4536/title.jay-z-speaks-on-kingdom-come

"The inspiration came from a song I just did with Guru," he said. "Guru is into comic books and all types of stuff. To expound upon 'Kingdom Come,' every man has his kingdom, whether it's a security guard at the mall — that's his kingdom. [Hip-hop] happens to be my kingdom."

[Streets]

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Hey if Frank Sinatra can come out of retirement and have arguably a BETTER 2nd full time career then i'm not gonna fault Jay-Z for making his "comeback".

yeah but this is like jay-z's 4th retirement. He swears he's done after every album it seems.

[JiggidyJames]

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yeah but this is like jay-z's 4th retirement. He swears he's done after every album it seems.

Well if Bleek was supposed to be the future, I wouldn't have left, either.

[jmood88]

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I take it not a lot of people in this thread liked the Black Album?

"Hated It"

[Money99]

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The state of hip-hop has been pretty decent in the past ten years, I would really encourage you to not judge the genre off the radio.
The "music" you hear on the radio is exactly what you said it was, and has been going downhill since Pac and Biggy.

I sure hope not. I just don't have time to research who and what's out there at this point.
I wonder why the local hiphop stations don't play good stuff anymore? Even if they played some 'classics' from the 90's and 80's I would be happy.

Oh well, maybe I'll look some artists up on the weekend.
Glad to hear that there are still some decent artists hiding out there.

The radio is not a good place to find good music and that's true for any genre.

So true. I'm tired of these wannabe punk bands that all sound the same. They all have a front man that sounds like a whining little b**ch and they sing the same crap:
"Waaaa! My stepdad won't let me smoke in my bedroom"
"Waaaa! I'm forced to watch TV on a tiny 42" plasma"

Waaa,waaa,waaa.
What happened to bands like Van Halen and Kiss? Bands that wanted to sing about chicks with long legs and partying all night? Not these ***** bands with kids that look like they cry whenever they see a dead butterfly on the road.

[Herbsinator]

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Jay-Z is one of the richest and best businessmen out there... how would HIS budget prevent him from doing anything he wanted?

yeah, how would his budget prevent him from using less expensive people?

[ThaGenecyst]

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Thought i'd chime in wiht my usual "Nas > Jay-Z" post.



peace

[uncleray]

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Jaty-Z is not the first rapper to retire then come back Too Short did it first. So I don't have problem with it. I don't know what the new album will be like but the concept sounds sick. I'll give it chance when it comes out. As far as hip hop over the last 10 yrs. It has grown not always in a direction that is meant for me. I've been listening to rap since Rappers Delight I dont like everything Ive heard but I respect the hustle.

[X*Cell]

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I'm gonna have to ask if my boy Jmood is gonna buy this. Are you man?

If you do, I might just go out and buy it... but I'm very skeptical. I really don't enjoy much of his work. He's completely arrogant (and I really hate arrogant people, so why should it be different with my music tastes, right?). He completely sucks when he is featured on tracks (thank God this is his cd), so he actually might do a good job.

He is a pretty good lyricist when it comes down to it... and sometimes he hooks up with some madd hott beats, but his last album was iffy, and I've never really liked his rap voice either... kinda annoying.

[JiggidyJames]

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He completely sucks when he is featured on tracks (thank God this is his cd), so he actually might do a good job.

If you're talking since the "retirement", then yeah. But from the begining of his career until then, he was an undisputed third verse king.

Check Show and Prove with Kane. Check Da Graveyard with Big L. Check For My Niggas with Lil' Cease. Four Alarm Blaze with MOP. Check What We Do with Freeway. Why We Die with Busta. Check Big Momma Thing with Lil' Kim. My Mind Right Remix with Bleek.

And that's just a small sample.

[jmood88]

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I'm gonna have to ask if my boy Jmood is gonna buy this. Are you man?

If you do, I might just go out and buy it... but I'm very skeptical. I really don't enjoy much of his work. He's completely arrogant (and I really hate arrogant people, so why should it be different with my music tastes, right?). He completely sucks when he is featured on tracks (thank God this is his cd), so he actually might do a good job.

He is a pretty good lyricist when it comes down to it... and sometimes he hooks up with some madd hott beats, but his last album was iffy, and I've never really liked his rap voice either... kinda annoying.

Nope I'm not buying it. I might download a song or two or maybe the album but I wouldn't buy it. When I first started listening to rap(when I was like in 2nd grade or something) Jay was actually the one that I loved but I really don't care about him now.

[X*Cell]

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If you're talking since the "retirement", then yeah. But from the begining of his career until then, he was an undisputed third verse king.

Check Show and Prove with Kane. Check Da Graveyard with Big L. Check For My Niggas with Lil' Cease. Four Alarm Blaze with MOP. Check What We Do with Freeway. Why We Die with Busta. Check Big Momma Thing with Lil' Kim. My Mind Right Remix with Bleek.

And that's just a small sample.

I have heard him on a song with Freeway... and man he justs hangs Freeway out to dry on that one. I forget the name of the track. Freeway isn't special at all when it comes to rap, but in this song Jay-Z's rapping made Freeway sound lyrically gifted. Jay-Z started throwing in words that he made up (or random sounds) so he could rhyme with the line he threw in before... It is pretty comical actually. I listen to the song with my friend every so often because we like the beat, and to make fun of Jigga's verse and how rediculously bad it is.

[X*Cell]

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Nope I'm not buying it. I might download a song or two or maybe the album but I wouldn't buy it. When I first started listening to rap(when I was like in 2nd grade or something) Jay was actually the one that I loved but I really don't care about him now.

Ok... yeah... I'm not going to buy it either. I started listening to everything around the same time you did. I remember in 2nd grade, I loved Montell Jordan's cd, and I was into Coolio and guys like that.

I really made rap my favorite and most listened to genre of music in 1998, and I always attribute the reason to one song... "Don't Let It Go to Your Head" by Brand Nubian. I absolutely adored that song... and so I really started looking into the whole rap scene, preferrably guys like Brand Nubian. That is most likely the reason why I listen to what I listen to today.

[Gmoney2002]

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I'm gonna have to ask if my boy Jmood is gonna buy this. Are you man?

If you do, I might just go out and buy it... but I'm very skeptical. I really don't enjoy much of his work. He's completely arrogant (and I really hate arrogant people, so why should it be different with my music tastes, right?). He completely sucks when he is featured on tracks (thank God this is his cd), so he actually might do a good job.

He is a pretty good lyricist when it comes down to it... and sometimes he hooks up with some madd hott beats, but his last album was iffy, and I've never really liked his rap voice either... kinda annoying.

I totally agree with the arrogance part. Since, "In My Lifetime Vol. 1" most of his stuff has been, "I'm the best, I'm the King." I'm not going to deny his talent though. One of the best out there still. Personally I like Nas a lot more. Just my preference.

Nas + Primo together kills anything Jay can put out IMO. Still waiting on that collabo album to happen. A guy can still hope......

I listen to the song with my friend every so often because we like the beat, and to make fun of Jigga's verse and how rediculously bad it is.

I think the song you're referring to is "What We Do." Just Blaze produced that track.....