Jay-z is a Liar!

[skitch]

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Hopefully his budget doesn't prevent him from using lesser expenisve cats(i.e 9th Wonder).

Jay-Z is one of the richest and best businessmen out there... how would HIS budget prevent him from doing anything he wanted?

[Gmoney2002]

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I think that's because Just Blaze's act has grown tired.

Wow JJames, you think so? I think he's still aight.

I think it was good for Jay-Z to take some time away from music. His lyrics had gotten really boring and repetitive. Instead of hearing tales of the street I felt like all I heard on his albums were advertising for the ROC and how he was the greatest rapper. Hopefully Jay-Z can take his lyrics back to the Reasonable Doubt album and rap about something interesting.

Excellent point Don, some of that I think had to do with his "beef" with Nas. He always felt he needed to proclaim that he's the HNIC(Head N*** In Charge). Personally my favourite Jay album is In my lifetime Vol. 1.

[Gmoney2002]

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Jay-Z is one of the richest and best businessmen out there... how would HIS budget prevent him from doing anything he wanted?

Kredit, What I meant by that was, since he has such an enormous budget he might just forget about the dope bargain producers(9th Wonder, Primo) and settle for the high priced mainstreamers(i.e Kanye, Timbaland, Neptunes etc...)

[ex carrabba fan]

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After last night's music video premiere event, I think it's safe put the current Jay-Z on par with the Nelly's, Chingy's, 50 cent's, and Diddy's of the world. Song was just weak all around and the same will probably be true about his upcoming album. Where have you gone Jay-Z from a decade ago.

I liked JayZ's past music better.
Rap in general has gone downhill since Biggie and Pac died. Only Eminem and Dre have produced anything worth listening to over the past 5 years or so.
Nowaday's rap or hip-hop sounds like a bunch of circus instruments while some guy barks like a dog.
There's no rythem or catchy beats to any of the new tunes out there.

Heck, I was watching Chappelles lost episodes a few weeks ago and he did a skit on Tupac. The fake Tupac song they played was the best hip-hop/rap tune I've heard in years. That's pretty brutal when a comedian can come up with something better than the garbage rappers we have now.

/End of old-man rant.

You really don't know the genre. It's o.k. to have an opinion, but yours on hip-hop is not a very informed one.

[skitch]

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Kredit, What I meant by that was, since he has such an enormous budget he might just forget about the dope bargain producers(9th Wonder, Primo) and settle for the high priced mainstreamers(i.e Kanye, Timbaland, Neptunes etc...)

Oooooh, gotcha.

[X*Cell]

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He is getting that Coldplay dude for his album too just like Kanye did... Jay-Z is so unoriginal... and he's always been like that. Title of his album is based off the Superman comic of where he comes out of retirement to save the world. Come on!!!

He's gettin Nas on his album too... Nas is coming out with an album that will have Jay-Z on it too...

and more interesting...

one of the songs called "Blunt Ashes" is produced by Philadelphia 76er Chris Webber.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I take it not a lot of people in this thread liked the Black Album?

[Money99]

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After last night's music video premiere event, I think it's safe put the current Jay-Z on par with the Nelly's, Chingy's, 50 cent's, and Diddy's of the world. Song was just weak all around and the same will probably be true about his upcoming album. Where have you gone Jay-Z from a decade ago.


You really don't know the genre. It's o.k. to have an opinion, but yours on hip-hop is not a very informed one.

How is it uninformed? The rap station I listen played better songs 10 years ago. Now the music I hear on it sounds like someone throwing silverware down the stairs while some guy barks out a few lyrics or has some off-rythem rhymes.

What I was giving was my opinion, not facts. If I had said that Tupac was born in Alaska, that could be called uninformed. But saying I don't like today's hip-hop is not factualy wrong. It's opinion.

Money, did you not like the new Ghostface album?

I havn't listened to it. I'll fully admit I don't listen to as much hip-hop as I once did. I just don't like a lot of the new stuff out there.
Is it any good? Who would you compare it too?

[ex carrabba fan]

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I take it not a lot of people in this thread liked the Black Album?

I personally didn't not like it. It's just that Jay-Z is a different animal. He's in the spotlight, on music television channels 24/7, basically the face of his genre, yet I still find that I don't hate his music. Which is kind of surprising, considering everyone else you could find on MTV or BET is/was garbage. I have to view Hova through a different lens. I liked the Black Album's production, but overall the lyrics kinda had me feeling underwhelmed. It still had that it factor and is one of my favorite Jay-Z albums though.

My top 3 Jay-Z albums: Reasonable, Blueprint 1, Black Album

[JiggidyJames]

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I take it not a lot of people in this thread liked the Black Album?

I liked it. Not as good as The Blueprint of Reasonable Doubt, but it was very good.

GMoney - Just Blaze been following a cookie cutter formula lately for the most part. And until he gets off his butt and does soimething with Saigon (trust me, they haven't done jack in almost a year), he's just another beatmaker.

Money99 - There's plently of good rap music out there, you just have to look. With radio stations owned by conglomerates and magazine editors being bought off, the music just doesn't come to us like it did in the past. YOU have to look.

[ex carrabba fan]

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How is it uninformed? The rap station I listen played better songs 10 years ago. Now the music I hear on it sounds like someone throwing silverware down the stairs while some guy barks out a few lyrics or has some off-rythem rhymes.

What I was giving was my opinion, not facts. If I had said that Tupac was born in Alaska, that could be called uninformed. But saying I don't like today's hip-hop is not factualy wrong. It's opinion.

Oh I never said you were wrong. But the radio in terms of hip-hop is pretty shi**y these days. I only know of one good station in the entire state of CA. Please do yourself a favor and never turn to a rap station. I was assuming that maybe you hadn't heard anything beyond MTV, but I would venture to say that if you really dug into the genre, you'd find a bunch of artists that tickled your fancy. I took the Dre and Eminem quote like maybe you only listened to the radio or watched the genre on t.v.

[Money99]

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Oh I never said you were wrong. I was assuming that maybe you hadn't heard anything beyond MTV, but I would venture to say that if you really dug into the genre, you'd find a bunch of artists that tickled your fancy. I took the Dre and Eminem quote like maybe you only listened to the radio or watched the genre on t.v.

You wouldn't be far off with that assessment. I don't have MTV but I try to listen to the hiphop stations on the radio (Detroit).
I'm old now so I don't really have that much time to look into new artists so I depend on the radio to dabble into what's going on.

I'm as mainstream as it gets.

[ex carrabba fan]

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You wouldn't be far off with that assessment. I don't have MTV but I try to listen to the hiphop stations on the radio (Detroit).
I'm old now so I don't really have that much time to look into new artists so I depend on the radio to dabble into what's going on.

I'm as mainstream as it gets.

The state of hip-hop has been pretty decent in the past ten years, I would really encourage you to not judge the genre off the radio.
The "music" you hear on the radio is exactly what you said it was, and has been going downhill since Pac and Biggy.

[Gmoney2002]

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Now the music I hear on it sounds like someone throwing silverware down the stairs while some guy barks out a few lyrics or has some off-rythem rhymes.

ROFL Money, that's funny man.

one of the songs called "Blunt Ashes" is produced by Philadelphia 76er Chris Webber.

Xcell, are you serious? wow C-Webb producing? now I've heard everything.....
you got the tracklisting?

I thought the Black album was ok. Blueprint 1 was better. Money, you want to hear some good music from Ghostface? listen to "Supreme Clientele" classic album, trust me.

[JiggidyJames]

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you got the tracklisting?

All the tracklists floating around out there are fakes.