Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

[ExtremeGamer]

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Beat me to it. Whatd you get?

Last Samurai
Knight's Tale
The Fugative
Troy Director's Cut
300
Training Day

[RockyTop1]

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Last Samurai
Knight's Tale
The Fugative
Troy Director's Cut
300
Training Day

Oh yeah, you're rebuying your red stuff. I forgot.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Oh yeah, you're rebuying your red stuff. I forgot.

Actually, only rebought 300 and Troy, I had the regular version of Troy anyway on red.

Actually looking forward to hearing 300 with uncompressed audio. Any of the ones I've switched from Red to Blue on, the audio has blown me away, since the 360 can't do uncompressed audio.

[RockyTop1]

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Actually, only rebought 300 and Troy, I had the regular version of Troy anyway on red.

Actually looking forward to hearing 300 with uncompressed audio. Any of the ones I've switched from Red to Blue on, the audio has blown me away, since the 360 can't do uncompressed audio.

Great, now I'm going to have to get 300.

[RockyTop1]

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Some pretty good deals on Blu at Best Buy next week


The Host >>>> $19.99
Rescue Dawn >>>> $24.99
X-Men 3: The Last Stand >>>> $24.99
The Devil Wears Prada >>>>> $24.99
Sunshine >>>> $24.99
Shoot ‘Em Up >>>> $24.99
Mr. Brooks >>>> $29.99
The Departed >>>> $19.99
CARS >>>> $19.99
High School Musical 2: Extended Edition >>>> $19.99
Meet The Robinsons >>>>$19.99
Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest >>>> $19.99
Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl >>>> $19.99
The Rock >>>> $14.99
Crimson Tide >>>> $14.99
Con Air >>>> $14.99
GoodFellas >>>> $14.99

Glad I held out on Crimson Tide, I almost bought it last week.

[RockyTop1]

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Same type of sale is up for HD DVD too...

[bergie56]

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I am guessing they do not, but do used titles work with the B2G1 blu-ray offer?

[AuburnAlumni]

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HD DVD issues a statement.

Talk about throwing up your hands in surrender. What kind of "response" is this?

Update, 4 PM PT: The HD DVD Promotional Group responded with a statement that's strikingly similar to the one issued earlier in the day: "We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

Translation: "Oh well."

It's ooooooooover.

[RockyTop1]

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My favorite part...

"at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail"

[AuburnAlumni]

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My favorite part...

"at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail"

You can almost SEE the guy shrugging his shoulders as he says it.

[Pared]

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You can almost SEE the guy shrugging his shoulders as he says it.

So true...

[Heelfan71]

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1 million players doesn't matter when you only have 2 movie studios. Plus the Bluray boxes look prettier so I am going with Bluray.

[mgoblue]

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These always make me laugh

[CaptainZombie]

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HD DVD issues a statement.

Talk about throwing up your hands in surrender. What kind of "response" is this? Translation: "Oh well."

It's ooooooooover.

Here's an official one from one of their leaders in Europe, which is baffling that a European HD DVD PG would be speaking for all. This one was from this morning also.

With recent developments in Hollywood, there have been claims made that the format war is over and that consumers have made their choice. While HD DVD supporters like Toshiba have always believed that the consumer will decide who wins the format war, in reality when the total high definition optical business represents less than one percent of total DVD sales, it really is far too early to declare a winner.

In fact, the reality is a little more complex. Our own research and analysis confirms that the average consumer on the street is pretty happy with the quality of their DVDs and the ability of HDTVs to ‘upscale’ a standard definition image. When they visit their retailer, they opt for up-scaling players rather than going with full HD. There is also considerable misunderstanding when it comes to how the two formats are performing.

On the Blu-ray side, the PS3 has been marketed as the principal playback device for Blu-ray movies, which appears to give Blu-ray a considerable advantage, but look closer. If you move away from the overhyped claims and closely examine the ‘attach rates’ – which is the information that the studios really track – Blu-ray still cannot achieve one software unit per player sold. This low attach rate does appear to challenge the Blu-ray claim that the PS3 is a primary movie playback device.

In contrast, HD DVD has enjoyed a consistent tie rate of movies to players of 3.5 movies to one player.

Despite the early stage of HD DVD adoption, we have also seen significant success for the format across Europe. By the end of 2007, HD DVD’s accumulated share of the high definition standalone player market exceeded 60 per cent of the overall market. In the fourth quarter of 2007 alone, HD DVD doubled its European installed base of players. Since the recent price repositioning, Toshiba has also seen a resurgence in its European sales and we believe that the value offered by HD DVD will continue to attract consumers despite recent Hollywood events.

Consumers are purchasing HD DVD players in increasing numbers, and local and Hollywood studios are producing new titles to support the additional hardware sales momentum. To illustrate, there will be around 100 new HD DVD titles released in Europe this year from a range of content providers and given the absence of region encoding restrictions, consumers will be able to enjoy this content wherever they are.

There is another interesting dimension to the HD DVD story that plays uniquely in Europe – the reliance on local content and it is here where HD DVD maintains a considerable advantage across the production value chain.

In countries like France, over half of all the content produced is for the local markets. Local studios and content providers are looking for the format that best suits the local environment. HD DVD has over 20 authoring labs in Europe, which have produced over 150 local titles so far. Compared to Blu-ray’s ten authoring labs and less than 80 local titles, HD DVD offers the industry the best route into to producing content on HD DVD.

With mandatory features that were agreed back in July 2005, consumers are assured of certain features in every player – permanent connection to the internet, onboard storage and picture in picture in-movie experiences. This gives the consumer confidence that whichever player they choose, they are assured of a consistent, positive experience. HD DVD also delivers the web-enabled features that the competition can still not offer.

HD DVD is still standing, and the format war is not over yet. HD DVD continues to see strong support in the European market, increasing sales of HD DVD players and continued interest in the format from the industry and consumers. HD DVD will continue to market and produce the format as long as there is a demand in the marketplace.

Olivier Van Wynendaele, is Assistant General Manager, Consumer Products Division, Toshiba UK.

[bigfnjoe96]

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As much as people want to believe this format war is over, this war in reality is far from over

"Don't fall for the BD hype," says Olivier Van Wynendaele, the HD DVD Promotion Group Europe's front man, in the group's weekly Industry Bulletin.

With recent developments in Hollywood, there have been claims made that the format war is over and that consumers have made their choice. While HD DVD supporters like Toshiba have always believed that the consumer will decide who wins the format war, in reality when the total high definition optical business represents less than one percent of total DVD sales, it really is far too early to declare a winner.

In fact, the reality is a little more complex. Our own research and analysis confirms that the average consumer on the street is pretty happy with the quality of their DVDs and the ability of HDTVs to ‘upscale’ a standard definition image. When they visit their retailer, they opt for up-scaling players rather than going with full HD. There is also considerable misunderstanding when it comes to how the two formats are performing.

On the Blu-ray side, the PS3 has been marketed as the principal playback device for Blu-ray movies, which appears to give Blu-ray a considerable advantage, but look closer. If you move away from the overhyped claims and closely examine the ‘attach rates’ – which is the information that the studios really track – Blu-ray still cannot achieve one software unit per player sold. This low attach rate does appear to challenge the Blu-ray claim that the PS3 is a primary movie playback device.

In contrast, HD DVD has enjoyed a consistent tie rate of movies to players of 3.5 movies to one player.

Despite the early stage of HD DVD adoption, we have also seen significant success for the format across Europe. By the end of 2007, HD DVD’s accumulated share of the high definition standalone player market exceeded 60 per cent of the overall market. In the fourth quarter of 2007 alone, HD DVD doubled its European installed base of players. Since the recent price repositioning, Toshiba has also seen a resurgence in its European sales and we believe that the value offered by HD DVD will continue to attract consumers despite recent Hollywood events.

Consumers are purchasing HD DVD players in increasing numbers, and local and Hollywood studios are producing new titles to support the additional hardware sales momentum. To illustrate, there will be around 100 new HD DVD titles released in Europe this year from a range of content providers and given the absence of region encoding restrictions, consumers will be able to enjoy this content wherever they are.

There is another interesting dimension to the HD DVD story that plays uniquely in Europe – the reliance on local content and it is here where HD DVD maintains a considerable advantage across the production value chain.

In countries like France, over half of all the content produced is for the local markets. Local studios and content providers are looking for the format that best suits the local environment. HD DVD has over 20 authoring labs in Europe, which have produced over 150 local titles so far. Compared to Blu-ray’s ten authoring labs and less than 80 local titles, HD DVD offers the industry the best route into to producing content on HD DVD.

With mandatory features that were agreed back in July 2005, consumers are assured of certain features in every player – permanent connection to the internet, onboard storage and picture in picture in-movie experiences. This gives the consumer confidence that whichever player they choose, they are assured of a consistent, positive experience. HD DVD also delivers the web-enabled features that the competition can still not offer.

HD DVD is still standing, and the format war is not over yet. HD DVD continues to see strong support in the European market, increasing sales of HD DVD players and continued interest in the format from the industry and consumers. HD DVD will continue to market and produce the format as long as there is a demand in the marketplace.

Olivier Van Wynendaele, is Assistant General Manager, Consumer Products Division, Toshiba UK.

Story filed 11 February 2008

http://www.dvd-intelligence.com/main_sections/news_archive/2003_free/2_olivier.htm

As long as HD DVD continues to offer adoptable Hardware prices which BTW are also region free players, HD DVD will continue to be a part of the HDM because people will be able to get movies from all over without restrictions. Not to mention the HD DVD PRGroups ability to continue to keep Universal & Paramount/Dream Works SKG Exclusive