Untrue Sports Myths

[dkgojackets]

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Steve Bartman was responsible for the Cubs losing to the Marlins in the NLCS.

I can't believe people still believe he is responsible somehow. He just took all the attention off Gonzalez booting the easy double play ball to end the inning.

And, like the Buckner case, it was just game 6. Not like the Buckner play, the overall result of the play was just a strike, which it probably would have been anyway since I'm not even sure Alou would have made the catch.

[CMH]

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Sorry to sort of break up this event, but does anyone not remember the incident where Carl Everett was plunked by a Mariners pitcher (I believe it might have been Jeff Fassero or somebody), and after losing cool and blowing steam, at first base he pretty much called his shot his next AB. His next AB, he hit an opposite field homer over the Green Monster, and flipped off Fassero (or whoever the pitcher was) when he crossed home plate.

Now that's calling your shot... though nobody seems to remember that.

Probably because no one likes Carl Everett.

[Hootiefish]

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Sorry to sort of break up this event, but does anyone not remember the incident where Carl Everett was plunked by a Mariners pitcher (I believe it might have been Jeff Fassero or somebody), and after losing cool and blowing steam, at first base he pretty much called his shot his next AB. His next AB, he hit an opposite field homer over the Green Monster, and flipped off Fassero (or whoever the pitcher was) when he crossed home plate.

Now that's calling your shot... though nobody seems to remember that.

Because we believe what Carl Everett believes: if we didn't see it, it didn't happen.

[Blzer]

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Because we believe what Carl Everett believes: if we didn't see it, it didn't happen.

Then I suggest that the media pays more attention to things like this then maybe just one clip on Sportscenter, because he called his shot. Though it was at first base and for his next at-bat, he still called it.

The fact that this is a fact while Ruth's is possibly a myth makes his more valuable IMO. It shouldn't matter who you are... whether you're Albert Pujols or if you're making your major league debut. A called shot is a called shot.

[billmatic]

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John Kincaid, filling in for Colin Cowherd on the Herd, brought up a great idea. He wanted people to call in and share an untrue sports myth. He came up with the myth that the Bears are unbeatable in Chicago Bear-weather (January at Soldier Field).

Mine is the November collapse of Virginia Tech. This year, we lost once in September and once in October, then won our final 6 games. Last year, we only lost to Miami in November, then we went to the ACC Title game and lost to FSU. In 2004, we lost to the National Champion USC Trojans in the first game of the season, and then lost to NC State on a FG miss. That was in September. In fact, a large collapse late in the season hasn't happened since 2003, when VT went 3-2 in November.

If this isn't the right forum, please move it. Thanks.

The VT November collapses have been talked about for years, it isn't something that someone just recently brought up. Saying it's a myth would imply it's something that's not based on fact or precedent, which is not the case.

[PdiddyPop]

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Coack K in 95 petioning the NCAA to not have the 13-18 record put on his resume.


This is from a NCAA official.

"Usually if a coach misses only one or a few games, schools
decide that the head coach will get the wins and losses for those games.
However in situations where the head coach is going to miss many games
or is out indefinitely, the school usually has the record go to the
interim coach.
When I found out Coach Krzyzewski would miss some games with back
trouble, I contacted Duke before the games were played that he would
miss. Duke decided that since Coach K would probably miss the rest of
the season, the wins and losses would go to interim coach Pete Gaudet.
That's how it happened and there has never been any controversy on our
end.
There is no set rule. I contact schools when I hear that a head coach
will miss a game or more. It is up to the school to decide who will be
credited with the wins and losses. In most cases, schools let me know
before the game or games are played, just like Duke did back in 1995.
Thanks for your interest in NCAA basketball."
Gary Johnson

[Sedihawk2K5]

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Sorry to sort of break up this event, but does anyone not remember the incident where Carl Everett was plunked by a Mariners pitcher (I believe it might have been Jeff Fassero or somebody), and after losing cool and blowing steam, at first base he pretty much called his shot his next AB. His next AB, he hit an opposite field homer over the Green Monster, and flipped off Fassero (or whoever the pitcher was) when he crossed home plate.

Now that's calling your shot... though nobody seems to remember that.

You are right about Everett. It was against Jamie Moyer of the M's and there was controversy (among MANY issues) when the M's signed him last winter. Here's the Wikipedia info on that incident:

Everett once called his own shot. Jamie Moyer beaned Everett, then a member of the Boston Red Sox, and Everett didn't take kindly to it and motioned that he would take him deep next at bat. He hit a homer over the Green Monster his next at bat and after crossing home plate, motioned towards the pitcher, grabbed his genitals and spat towards the mound.

Great guy.

[Blzer]

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You are right about Everett. It was against Jamie Moyer of the M's and there was controversy (among MANY issues) when the M's signed him last winter. Here's the Wikipedia info on that incident:

Everett once called his own shot. Jamie Moyer beaned Everett, then a member of the Boston Red Sox, and Everett didn't take kindly to it and motioned that he would take him deep next at bat. He hit a homer over the Green Monster his next at bat and after crossing home plate, motioned towards the pitcher, grabbed his genitals and spat towards the mound.

Great guy.

Haha... didn't realize that anybody ever took note of it after it happened. Glad to know that I wasn't making this story up.

[fistofrage]

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Lloyd Carr is a great coach but the record really is hard to argue against. And without Tressel I have my doubts Troy Smith would be near the level he is today.

There is myth right there..."Lloyd Carr is a great coach". Fact of the matter is he only faces one or two teams a year with equal talent. I think his assistants did a great job preparing the team this year, however.

[SPTO]

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Untrue Sports Myth (although I think everyone will call it "sour grapes" on my part)

"Scott Norwood choked the Bills out of their first SB."

1. It wasn't a chip shot. IIRC it was over 35 yards.

2. There was bad coaching. I have the game on DVD and even though I haven't watched in a while the Bills did have a timeout. Jim Kelly and the Bills were marching down the field on that last drive. Marv Levy could've called the timeout and run a medium to deep sideline pass play. Instead he chose to play it safe and hope for a FG.

[billmatic]

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it was 47 yards, definitely no chip shot.

[SPTO]

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it was 47 yards, definitely no chip shot.

Yeah like I said I didn't watch the game in a while. Too many bad memories. I think i'll re-watch it during the SB bye week this year though. So you see the Bills could've definitely run another play and made the FG more manageble.

This is why I don't like it when people blame Norwood even though I do it on occassion myself but it wasn't really his fault.