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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #91
    Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

    Wait, so are they telling me Johnny Storm is black now?


    Last edited by 23; 02-20-2014, 08:09 PM.

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    • daflyboys
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 18238

      #92
      Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

      Originally posted by JayBee74
      Thought it might be premature to start another thread.

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      Ya....a new thread would be no harm... and that's not a good pick for Sue Storm.

      Originally posted by 23
      Wait, so are they telling me Johnny Storm is black now?

      And I guess they are now step-brother/sister.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #93
        Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

        A black Johnny and a non blonde sue... Not a good way to reboot

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        • Beantown
          #DoYourJob
          • Feb 2005
          • 31523

          #94
          Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

          Originally posted by daflyboys
          And I guess they are now step-brother/sister.
          Don't blame the movie for this, by the way.

          They're taking the source material from the Ultimate Fantastic Four series that Marvel put out.

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          • trobinson97
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            • Oct 2004
            • 16366

            #95
            Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

            Originally posted by 23
            Wait, so are they telling me Johnny Storm is black now?




            Originally posted by Beantown
            Don't blame the movie for this, by the way.

            They're taking the source material from the Ultimate Fantastic Four series that Marvel put out.
            I'm actually reading that right now, guess I haven't gotten to that point in the story yet because Johnny/Human Lighter is still a white guy.
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            • Beantown
              #DoYourJob
              • Feb 2005
              • 31523

              #96
              Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

              Originally posted by trobinson97
              I'm actually reading that right now, guess I haven't gotten to that point in the story yet because Johnny/Human Lighter is still a white guy.
              Was referring to the post I quoted, about them being related.

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              • Chrisksaint
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                • Apr 2010
                • 19127

                #97
                Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                Michael B Jordan is by far the best actor of the group so it's more then fine with me.
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                • Blzer
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42516

                  #98
                  Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                  Originally posted by trobinson97
                  Isn't his sister white? I can see why that would be strange.
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                  • jmood88
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #99
                    Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                    He can turn his body into fire but I simply cannot believe that a white character will now be played by a great actor who happens to be black. I will suspend my disbelief for many things but that is not one of them. For shame, Marvel.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
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                    • dsallupinyaarea
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2764

                      #100
                      Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                      I hope they don't even address it. Just to troll the people who care about something so stupid.
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                      • jmood88
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #101
                        Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                        Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                        I hope they don't even address it. Just to troll the people who care about something so stupid.
                        They did that with The Rock in a bunch of his earlier movies and it would be hilarious if they did it with this, especially with how angry people get over it. In fact, they should make Sue and Johnny's parents be Asian and Puerto Rican just to keep ****ing with people.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #102
                          Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                          Movies and suspension of disbelief has always been weird and as movies strive to recreate things as "realistically" as they possibly can they lose their mysticism which makes them so entertaining and magical in the first place. Considering its roots trace back to days when only men acted (still had female roles, though) it seems silly to me that physical appearance can trump artistic performance.



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                          • Candyman5
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                            • Nov 2006
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                            #103
                            Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                            Originally posted by jmood88
                            He can turn his body into fire but I simply cannot believe that a white character will now be played by a great actor who happens to be black. I will suspend my disbelief for many things but that is not one of them. For shame, Marvel.
                            Thats not the point. Its lore.

                            Its like them taking Black Panther and making him white, Batman Black, Martian Manhunter purple, etc.
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                            • jmood88
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34639

                              #104
                              Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                              Originally posted by Candyman5
                              Thats not the point. Its lore.

                              Its like them taking Black Panther and making him white, Batman Black, Martian Manhunter purple, etc.
                              They change stuff about lore all the time, especially in movie adaptations. Is Johnny Storm being a white guy central to the character? The reason so many of these comic-book characters are white is because of the time period in which they were created; there isn't anything that gets compromised by having a black actor play him in the movie, unless there's some old storyline I never saw where the Fantastic Four had to go back in time and pretend to be Aryans.
                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #105
                                Re: Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Surfer Discussion

                                Originally posted by Candyman5
                                Thats not the point. Its lore.

                                Its like them taking Black Panther and making him white, Batman Black, Martian Manhunter purple, etc.
                                Changing Batman to be a black man wouldn't have any affect on the lore whatsoever.

                                It shouldn't really be a problem at all. Sue and Johnny have interracial parents? Awesome.



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