What do teachers really make?

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  • Mike Lowe
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    • Dec 2006
    • 5286

    #106
    Re: What do teachers really make?

    I am a teacher in a northwest suburb of Chicago. I can provide a little information:

    The job is very rewarding. The relationships you create, as a good/responsible/hard-working, teacher are priceless.

    Summers off are euphoric. I probably think about work 5-6 times in those three months (June, July, and August) and spend maybe 16 hours doing actual work. Not to mention the other days off for holidays. All told, I have 16 weeks off per year plus almost 20 days in sick/personal time which rolls over each year. I work about 180 days a year.

    My department head, full-time teacher with his Masters degree, makes $109,000.

    The room for growth in the field is remarkable. There are so many different avenues you CAN go if you so choose. If you decide you want more money, you can go that route as an administrator (principal, superintendent etc.). Counseling offers some unique experiences as well. You can teach at the college level if that interests you (with a Masters degree).

    I cannot think of a job I'd trade mine for aside from a professional athlete. But even then, to never have to travel with my job, always be on the same schedule as my kids (no babysitter ever), having weekends, summers, and only working day-shift are all such great perks.

    My district pays fairly average. I am in my 2nd year and I make $38,000. Once I get my Masters (one year from now) I will be making right around $45,000 for doing the EXACT same job. It only goes up from there each year on a structured salary grid which rises expontentially each year. Our contract is up after this year so those numbers will actually be a bit higher.

    I like these discussions as well. I'll let the cat out of the bag a little bit here by saying, I like to hear the negative talk about my job. I like to think of teaching as a secret between us educators. Until you are a part of it, and get through that first year (wow, that's a lot of work...talk about trading jobs for a week yikes) you have no idea how great of a career, and life, teaching truly is!

    3 months from today, I will have two more weeks of work for the next three months; 3 of the most beautiful months of the year. The places I'll see, and the things I'll do during those times, over a lifespan, are priceless to me.

    To each his own...Great discussion!

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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #107
      Re: What do teachers really make?

      Just a question for you.

      What do you mean by the sick days roll over? I know a lot of companies, and schools, have different policies, so what's your schools?

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      • Mike Lowe
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        • Dec 2006
        • 5286

        #108
        Re: What do teachers really make?

        Whatever sick/personal days you do not use, from one year to the next, roll over to the next year. So, in time, you can accumulate a ton of days and actually use them to "retire" early. There are 2 people in my district who have accumulated over 700 days and will be using those days to "retire" with full pay before their actual retirement kicks in (in which the salary is very close to their previous one). Obviously, this is a rare situation. Most people use them when they have a baby (male or female).
        Last edited by Mike Lowe; 02-08-2007, 01:09 AM.

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        • BGarrett7
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          • Jul 2003
          • 5890

          #109
          Re: What do teachers really make?

          Thanks for supporting the cause, Mike.

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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #110
            Re: What do teachers really make?

            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
            Whatever sick/personal days you do not use, from one year to the next, roll over to the next year. So, in time, you can accumulate a ton of days and actually use them to retire. There are people in my district who have accumulated over 700 days and will be using those days to "retire" with full pay before their actual retirement kicks in (in which the salary is very close to their previous one).

            Yep I have so many vacation and sick days for work. That I can take 3 day off a month with payed for the whole year.

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            • Beantown
              #DoYourJob
              • Feb 2005
              • 31523

              #111
              Re: What do teachers really make?

              Damn...that's a nice deal.

              So basically...say they saved up 700 days....they can more-or-less take 4 years off as paid retirement, before their salary gets reduced to the "retirement" salary? Sweet deal indeed.

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              • BGarrett7
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                • Jul 2003
                • 5890

                #112
                Re: What do teachers really make?

                Originally posted by Longhorn
                Damn...that's a nice deal.

                So basically...say they saved up 700 days....they can more-or-less take 4 years off as paid retirement, before their salary gets reduced to the "retirement" salary? Sweet deal indeed.
                In the systems I have worked in, that has also been the case. I believe that the days were capped at some point, however. Maybe around a school years worth, 180 days.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #113
                  Re: What do teachers really make?

                  Originally posted by Longhorn
                  Damn...that's a nice deal.

                  So basically...say they saved up 700 days....they can more-or-less take 4 years off as paid retirement, before their salary gets reduced to the "retirement" salary? Sweet deal indeed.

                  Some districts are cracking down on that, but some still have it.

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                  • Beantown
                    #DoYourJob
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 31523

                    #114
                    Re: What do teachers really make?

                    Still, even just a year of full salary before it gets reduced - I know you said it was only slight, but how slight/how long do they keep paying you? - is a lot better than some jobs give you.

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                    • Mike Lowe
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 5286

                      #115
                      Re: What do teachers really make?

                      Originally posted by Longhorn
                      Damn...that's a nice deal.

                      So basically...say they saved up 700 days....they can more-or-less take 4 years off as paid retirement, before their salary gets reduced to the "retirement" salary? Sweet deal indeed.

                      Right. Like I mentioned though, this is a rare instance. There just may be something set in place about only allowing teachers to use 180 days or something along those lines. To be honest, I'm not quite sure...I'm just basing my comments on what I've heard around the old water cooler (copy room lol).

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                      • marque1d
                        SM*G*XX*R
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 345

                        #116
                        Re: What do teachers really make?

                        105 post since this afternoon, unreal. No teachers don't make enough but it's a civil service and they aren't going to make as much as being in private industry. School districts pushing masters degrees keeps universities graduate studies afloat. They basically subsidize the graduate programs, because it's a cash cow.

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                        • Mike Lowe
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 5286

                          #117
                          Re: What do teachers really make?

                          Originally posted by Longhorn
                          Still, even just a year of full salary before it gets reduced - I know you said it was only slight, but how slight/how long do they keep paying you? - is a lot better than some jobs give you.
                          We had a teacher retire last year who was making over $100k (I do not know the exact amount). He is now making $99k in retirement but I am not sure how long that lasts. I was under the impression that it was for the rest of his life. This info is based off of his son with whom I currently work (he is in my department). This man's father was also a department head.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #118
                            Re: What do teachers really make?

                            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                            Right. Like I mentioned though, this is a rare instance. There just may be something set in place about only allowing teachers to use 180 days or something along those lines. To be honest, I'm not quite sure...I'm just basing my comments on what I've heard around the old water cooler (copy room lol).

                            Yeah, I think it is the date when you were hired. New teachers would not be able to do that. I think if I read it right.

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                            • dieselboy
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 18040

                              #119
                              Re: What do teachers really make?

                              Damn...

                              Should of gone into teaching.

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                              • jmood88
                                Sean Payton: Retribution
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 34639

                                #120
                                Re: What do teachers really make?

                                Originally posted by dieselboy
                                Damn...

                                Should of gone into teaching.
                                You wouldn't say that if you had to teach in a public schools. Rich schools can afford all kinds of stuff but most public schools care barely afford busing and sports teams, let alone paying teachers $100,000.
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