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  • elTodd
    Little Big Puig
    • Feb 2004
    • 1333

    #16
    Re: Hostel Part 2

    Originally posted by DookieMowf
    Yep and it was a good movie.
    I absolutely hated Cabin Fever. Once the kid yelled "PANCAKES!!!", I lost all respect for the movie.

    I just couldn't take the movie seriously. The ending only made it worse with the cops and the people partying. It was like a comedy in a horror film, and a bad comedy at that.

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    • Scottdau
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 32580

      #17
      Re: Hostel Part 2

      Why do people like movies like this? I always wondered why. If you can answer this thank you. If not that is cool too. To me it is to real.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #18
        Re: Hostel Part 2

        Originally posted by Scottd
        Why do people like movies like this? I always wondered why. If you can answer this thank you. If not that is cool too. To me it is to real.
        Not sure. But, production companies will continue making them because this sort of horror film generates loads of money.
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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #19
          Re: Hostel Part 2

          Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
          Not sure. But, production companies will continue making them because this sort of horror film generates loads of money.
          Yeah I guess I have a different view on movies like this, because I work with murderers and they are only in their teens. Maybe if I didn't work with these kind of kids I might feel different about these kind of movies.

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          • CaptainZombie
            Brains
            • Jul 2003
            • 37851

            #20
            Re: Hostel Part 2

            EG, anyone else that was a fan of the first one check this one out yet?
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            • ODogg
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2003
              • 37953

              #21
              Re: Hostel Part 2

              Originally posted by candyman56
              EG, anyone else that was a fan of the first one check this one out yet?
              From my other thread, which can be closed:

              Well I just got back from this movie and it's one helluva ride fellas. Now I will say if you hated the first one then you will hate this one. But I'll say this, if you liked the first one then you will LOVE this one. This one is a lot more than the first one IMO as it's not just a typical gore film which is what a lot of folks complained about in regards to the first one. This one actually has some things in that will make you stop and think. There are also a couple of great twists to the ending (which make you think more). It's got a great ending IMO.

              Oh and as for the gore, it's just horrendous, I'd say worse than the first, especially one scene which just nearly made me fall over (you people will know when you see it the one I'm talking about).

              So in closing, I know the reviewers for the most part have pretty much been 50/50 on this with some trashing it as "just more gore" and others praising it saying it's better than the first (I think it was 55% at Rottentomatoes.com this morning) but do yourself a favor if you at all enjoyed the first and go check this out as it's one of the few movie series where the sequel is quite clearly superior to the original in nearly every way.

              I'm glad I ignored the reviewers and just went and saw it.
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              • ODogg
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 37953

                #22
                Re: Hostel Part 2

                Originally posted by Scottd
                Why do people like movies like this? I always wondered why. If you can answer this thank you. If not that is cool too. To me it is to real.
                Your last sentence answered your own question. It's terror based. The thought of being tied up, helpless and subject to being mutilated is, well to some people, pretty damned terrifying. But yeah it's not everyone's cup of tea for sure..
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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #23
                  Re: Hostel Part 2

                  Good review ODogg.

                  Why would you say people that didn't like the first wouldn't like the second when the second is more intelligent than the first?

                  I think most people hated the first because it has no substance. The reason why I'm interested in the second is because Eli Roth talked about how he tried to get substance into the plot.

                  Without even having seen the movie I'd bet that Hostel Part 2 is better than the first.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                  • mgoblue
                    Go Wings!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 25477

                    #24
                    Re: Hostel Part 2

                    Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                    Good review ODogg.

                    Why would you say people that didn't like the first wouldn't like the second when the second is more intelligent than the first?

                    I think most people hated the first because it has no substance. The reason why I'm interested in the second is because Eli Roth talked about how he tried to get substance into the plot.

                    Without even having seen the movie I'd bet that Hostel Part 2 is better than the first.
                    It is better than the first...there's a lot more substance in the plot, where you have people's motivations and whatnot that factor in. I liked it, better than the first. Not the best horror movie out there, but i'm glad I saw it. It's not Saw level gore or anything either, just the scenes that are gory are pretty intense and definitely not trivial. That last segment was just shocking, wow.
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                    • ODogg
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 37953

                      #25
                      Re: Hostel Part 2

                      Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                      Good review ODogg.

                      Why would you say people that didn't like the first wouldn't like the second when the second is more intelligent than the first?

                      I think most people hated the first because it has no substance. The reason why I'm interested in the second is because Eli Roth talked about how he tried to get substance into the plot.

                      Without even having seen the movie I'd bet that Hostel Part 2 is better than the first.
                      Well I guess I made that statement because I have read so many reviews of the second movie and they continue to focus on the horrific gore and torture scenes as being why the reviewer does not like the series. So what I meant by saying if you didn't like the first then you won't like the second that it's probably because you did not like the gore in the first movie. If you didn't have issue with the gore but did have issue with the overall lack of substance then this movie will satisfy you because it:

                      a) has a better plot
                      b) has red herrings, the people you think are doing one thing aren't...or they are...as mgoblue said, the movie is great at trying to figure out who is doing what and if you think you know, you probably don't...this becomes very clear later in the movie and it's pretty surprising a movie can fool you in some ways when you think you've seen it all in this respect..
                      c) has not one but two twist endings
                      d) raises issues about the nature of violence and what makes us impervious or sensitive to it
                      e) raises some other philosophical issues which cannot be discussed without giving away plot points

                      So yes I can totally see where Roth went into this one with a lot of thought. As I said, I liked the first movie but this one is quite a bit better.
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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #26
                        Re: Hostel Part 2

                        Thanks guys.

                        I have to say though, I didn't find the first one disturbing. I was ridiculously bored with Hostel. I didn't find it really gruesome. Don't know why the rest of the world seems to disagree.

                        I do know what you mean about "red herrings." That's exactly what I meant by Roth adding substance to the plot. He mentioned a scene where a guy asks one girl to dance and when she refuses he says, "I could have helped you." That sentence is so deep when you consider the nature of the movie and its characters. It could mean anything.

                        I just watched an interview with two of the girls in the movie on "The Sauce" (A show on FUSE) and they talked about how Roth's dialogue was amazing and it was the sole reason they signed on to do the movie. After reading parts of that one scene and parts of the others I'm not surprised.

                        Thankfully, Roth didn't reveal any plot spoilers. He was very good at talking about his movie, making it interesting, showing some stuff, and not ruining the story.

                        (By the way, I read his interview on Creative Screenwriting. Great magazine for movie lovers and aspiring writers).
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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42515

                          #27
                          Re: Hostel Part 2

                          Wow!


                          So, uh... this movie was pretty much terrible. Sorry, ODogg and mgoblue... I'm going to have to disagree with you guys on this one.

                          Now, I know that I said that Hostel was terrible, but my God, I think I actually really appreciate what they did with the first one now. This movie was more of a ****ing lame attempt comedy than a disturbing horror. Every gory part of this movie either made you laugh or say "What the ****?"

                          Oh, and for the most shocking ending in horror movie history... I don't know where that came from.


                          I do not advise anybody to see this movie, especially those that were previously on the fence. Everything that was done well in Hostel just plain did not happen here.

                          Thankfully, this was my second movie for the $10.50 I spent. Also thankfully, the first movie (Ocean's Thirteen) was well worth the total $10.50.
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                          • Bad_Intentions
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 5392

                            #28
                            Re: Hostel Part 2

                            I liked the first one and I liked this one. Honestly Hostel I was damn fun movie, when I saw it on opening weekend when it came out the theater was full and once it going going good the crowd was going crazy, it was just a fun movie to watch with a bunch of sick sh#t happening. I pretty much knew what to expect coming in and I didn't expect some complicated plot. So if you take it for what it was worth most people had fun with it.

                            Part II was a bit different, you got a better feel for the 'victims' and showed a different perspective of things going on behind the scenes that the first film hardly touched on. I do think that the meat and potatoes in part I was better than in the sequel. I was hoping Roth would take torture scense to a whole new level in this one but overall I don't feel he did. however the last 20 mins was....we'll i'll just say it was entertaining.

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                            • NoleFan
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 12855

                              #29
                              Re: Hostel Part 2

                              Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                              I have to say though, I didn't find the first one disturbing. I was ridiculously bored with Hostel. I didn't find it really gruesome. Don't know why the rest of the world seems to disagree.
                              I agree. I found the concept of Hostel disturbing...paying for the right to mutilate people in any way you can imagine. However, the movie itself was blah!

                              I haven't seen Hostel 2 yet so I can't comment on it.
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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #30
                                Re: Hostel Part 2

                                Originally posted by NoleFan
                                I agree. I found the concept of Hostel disturbing...paying for the right to mutilate people in any way you can imagine. However, the movie itself was blah!

                                I haven't seen Hostel 2 yet so I can't comment on it.
                                I agree. Concept was disturbing and interesting. It's why I rented the movie.

                                But, after you get through all that it's not a good movie. And I just didn't feel grossed out or disturbed with the things being done.

                                I realize there are people that do. I've seen short clips of the one girl hanging upside down and one of the actors was terrified. She couldn't watch it, though her friend (the girl hanging upside down) was sitting next to her and they all know it was just a movie. I watched the scene and just sat there wondering what was so terrifying about it.
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                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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