Re: James Bond: Quantum of Solace

[sportdan30]

Re: James Bond: Quantum of Solace

I'm planning on seeing this movie tonight, but the reviews I've read and listened to on the radio don't have me as excited as I was a couple days ago. It sounds like the story is rather an afterthought compared to the action scenes.

So, do I drag my wife to see this movie or surprise her and actually go to Rachel's Wedding that has gotten better reviews...

[bkfount]

Re: James Bond: Quantum of Solace

I'm planning on seeing this movie tonight, but the reviews I've read and listened to on the radio don't have me as excited as I was a couple days ago. It sounds like the story is rather an afterthought compared to the action scenes.

So, do I drag my wife to see this movie or surprise her and actually go to Rachel's Wedding that has gotten better reviews...

please turn in your balls, right now.

[SPTO]

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They were talking a bit about this movie today on the newstalk station here. Actually it gives me some ammunition (good or bad) when I write up my thoughts after seeing the movie. (most likely going on Tuesday evening) I did hear something disappointing however, this is the first ever Bond movie where Bond doesn't say his trademark "The name's Bond, James Bond" line.

It just won't feel like a Bond movie without that line being uttered.

[bkfount]

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this is the first ever Bond movie where Bond doesn't say his trademark "The name's Bond, James Bond" line.

It just won't feel like a Bond movie without that line being uttered.

I didn't actually notice that though.

This is still a Bond movie, it's just that it's not as great as Casino Royale. Since it rebooted, they've tried to do some new things while holding on to the iconic past. I don't really mind that, but I hate seeing them tack in stuff lazily just to do it. They have one scene they lifted from Goldfinger, and the gun barrel intro is tacked on the end for the credits.

[sportdan30]

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please turn in your balls, right now.

Not to worry. The wife knows how much I've been wanting to see QoS. I told her that the reviews have been a little mixed, and she said she could care less..that's the movie we're going to see. So, the balls stay intact.

[Blzer]

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Meh... great action movie, good follow-up to Casino Royale, but it definitely lost its charm that Casino Royale gave us. Still a fresh tomato and instant Blu-ray purchase no doubt. It just wasn't Casino Royale, though. Editing was slop, too.

However, it is highly recommended. Go see it.

[The Chef]

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Im not sure, I thought the movie was average at best, I didnt like the plot at all, the way some of the action scenes were shot made it difficult to follow and they did their best to tie this movie into the last one but it seemed like it was done in such a way that it made it seem as if it was an afterthought. I remember reading people saying this was more of a Bourne movie then a Bond movie and I agree 100% with that, this was mindless action from start to finish for the most part and thats not Bond imo.

[sportdan30]

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Im not sure, I thought the movie was average at best, I didnt like the plot at all, the way some of the action scenes were shot made it difficult to follow and they did their best to tie this movie into the last one but it seemed like it was done in such a way that it made it seem as if it was an afterthought. I remember reading people saying this was more of a Bourne movie then a Bond movie and I agree 100% with that, this was mindless action from start to finish for the most part and thats not Bond imo.

100 percent agree. The action sequences were way to difficult to follow which directly effects the tension. The plot seemed rather insignificant. This was a very average movie.

[bkfount]

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Im not sure, I thought the movie was average at best, I didnt like the plot at all, the way some of the action scenes were shot made it difficult to follow and they did their best to tie this movie into the last one but it seemed like it was done in such a way that it made it seem as if it was an afterthought. I remember reading people saying this was more of a Bourne movie then a Bond movie and I agree 100% with that, this was mindless action from start to finish for the most part and thats not Bond imo.

well they did go out and get the actual Bourne series stunt people for this film, so yeah, they were intentionally going for Bourne-ish action scenes. They've even said so, which explains why some scenes had quick cuts and looked like they wanted us in a washing machine.

I also don't see how people can hate the plot. It's more like the execution of the plot that needs to be criticized. Sure, it's not the standard outlandish Bond villain, but the corporate tentacles of the Quantum organization pulling strings around the world gives Bond a constant "villain" presence that they can expand on in more films. It also allows them use material from current global politics driven by natural resources and shady corporate partnerships that we all can actually accept as happening today.

[sunshinemind]

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hopefully going to watch it tomorrow

[CaptainZombie]

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well they did go out and get the actual Bourne series stunt people for this film, so yeah, they were intentionally going for Bourne-ish action scenes. They've even said so, which explains why some scenes had quick cuts and looked like they wanted us in a washing machine.

I also don't see how people can hate the plot. It's more like the execution of the plot that needs to be criticized. Sure, it's not the standard outlandish Bond villain, but the corporate tentacles of the Quantum organization pulling strings around the world gives Bond a constant "villain" presence that they can expand on in more films. It also allows them use material from current global politics driven by natural resources and shady corporate partnerships that we all can actually accept as happening today.

From reading this, it reminds me a lot of SPECTRE that was used in a lot of the earlier Bond films as the main villain. I am ok with this. Can't wait till Sunday to check this out.

[Beantown]

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Maybe it's because I could follow along with them rather easily...but I absolutely loved every action scene. The first one-on-one fight scene (think the one with the ropes) is one of my favorite fight scenes of all time. Amazing.

[Bighoff]

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I liked it very much, Daniel Craig it freaking great as Bond. I didn't like it as much as Casino Royale but over all it was a good Bond movie. I liked the plot but thought they could have stretched the story out a bit longer to make it at least 2 full hours. The fight scenes were sweet, the ropes one is unbelievably awesome.

[The Chef]

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well they did go out and get the actual Bourne series stunt people for this film, so yeah, they were intentionally going for Bourne-ish action scenes. They've even said so, which explains why some scenes had quick cuts and looked like they wanted us in a washing machine.

I also don't see how people can hate the plot. It's more like the execution of the plot that needs to be criticized. Sure, it's not the standard outlandish Bond villain, but the corporate tentacles of the Quantum organization pulling strings around the world gives Bond a constant "villain" presence that they can expand on in more films. It also allows them use material from current global politics driven by natural resources and shady corporate partnerships that we all can actually accept as happening today.

I wasnt aware that the Bourne stunt people were working on this, thats unfortunate imo.

Maybe you can correct me on the plot then...

Spoiler

Was the plot not basically about the "bad guys" controlling the water flow and wanting to basically name their price in hopes of getting rich off of said water? If thats the plot then its a real let down, whats to stop the guys paying him from just killing him then? Its not like there is some bomb somewhere where others can detinate it if you kill the head guy so you have to get to the bomb first, its freakin water. Now I watched this online, not the greatest quality, so maybe I missed a few things here and there so if there is something Im missing then feel free to let me know.

[Blzer]

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I wasnt aware that the Bourne stunt people were working on this, thats unfortunate imo.

Maybe you can correct me on the plot then...

Spoiler

Was the plot not basically about the "bad guys" controlling the water flow and wanting to basically name their price in hopes of getting rich off of said water? If thats the plot then its a real let down, whats to stop the guys paying him from just killing him then? Its not like there is some bomb somewhere where others can detinate it if you kill the head guy so you have to get to the bomb first, its freakin water. Now I watched this online, not the greatest quality, so maybe I missed a few things here and there so if there is something Im missing then feel free to let me know.

Spoiler

This was not the biggest deal, though this was their current thing to go after. Quantum is the big deal, and the entire terrorist organization can't be taken down by only cutting off one head. As you saw, even M's own trusted bodyguard was a traitor. Anyway, when Bond disguised to be the bodyguard's contact, he finds out the woman he goes into the car with (who ends up being Bond's girl) was trying to be killed by Greene. After this, I suppose he found that in following her, he'll get to one of them, hopefully learning more about the organization or something of another (meanwhile rescuing Camille, of course).

For him, it was a few things: it was a revenge job for one. Vesper was killed beginning at the hand of a man who specializes in seducing high-ranked women such as herself and having them give up government assets. Bond stopped that one girl from having the same happen to her, and begrudgingly held off killing him. At any rate, Bond also pursued on his mission the way he did more so because he could get no help from M after she and others accused him of killing the bodyguard (the one that he dropped from the roof). That, and that Fields woman was killed no thanks to him staying in Bolivia and sleeping with her instead of going back to England.

It was only after they found out what was in that desert land that they knew what he was after, because initially they thought he was after oil, which obviously wasn't true. But anyway, that wasn't the plot. The plot is Bond was trying to find out more about the organization that led to Vesper's death. Unfortunately, Mr. White is still on the loose, so there is still definitely more story to tell. Hopefully, he can get some sleep before the next one.