James Bond: Quantum of Solace

[mgoblue]

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Believe it or not, I am kind of happy that gadgets haven't been introduced yet. Or else we end up with Pierce Brosnan James Bond films. I really enjoyed the heck out of Brosnan's Bond, it was that it just got too hokey at times.



In some respects I agree with you here and others don't. I think he still does hold M to the highest regard. When M was almost killed at the beginning of the movie, it was another thing that was added to his list of revenge against the baddies with Vesper's death being his first goal. When he was flying the plane, he came out calling her a pain in the rear........except that he does see her as a mother. I think this film showed that Bond does care about M as a motherly figure.

I don't want the gadgets to get crazy, I guess it was just always cool seeing Q and having a little fun to go along with the action. I do like the new direction, and they're really giving depth to Bond's character (why he does what he does).

[Kashanova]

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No, he never does. It is the first Bond movie where that line is left out.

Honestly, I can't even think of a spot where he would've said it that would've fit within the story.

with out the introduction and no gadgets it didn't feel like bond which i missed

[marshallfever]

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I can't wait to see where they go with the third of the trilogy.

[Skerik]

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Finally saw this tonight - loved it. People say that it's "not Bond" because it doesn't have gadgets or some super-mad villain who wants to steal a nuclear weapon and hold the world hostage for one million fafillion dollars, but people are forgetting that Bond was stone cold dead and tired, so much so that it was successfully lampooned three times by the Austin Powers franchise.

Casino Royale was a restart for this franchise by turning it into something believable and real world - they took away James' gadgets and they turned the Spectre organization into something realistic with realistic aims like Dominic Greene's in this movie. I actually really, really enjoy that - much more than just another diabolical supervillain bent on global domination that Bond once again has to thwart with his super-gadgetry and wisecracking.

It's also cool how Bond needs to peel away layers of the Spectre organization. The villains in the first two movies, while the main characters of each film, were really just stooges in Spectre's big picture. It's much more interesting for Bond to unravel the organization from the bottom up than to see him taking on supervillain after supervillain in each film with no real purpose or connection between them.

Anyway, loved the film. It's not "classic" Bond, but I'm glad it's not. I've seen every Bond film multiple times and I love the series, but it was time for a reboot and I love what they've done with the franchise.

[Cj7298419]

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Just saw it for the first time on Blu-ray and I was blown away. I might wound up liking it just as much or more than CR. The action sequences, how they tied CR into this one, Craig's grittiness as Bond.

I honestly didn't find anything wrong with this movie and now I know why I take rottentomatoes with a grain of salt.

[Gizmo]

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Just the movie last night also on blu ray and let me say, the sound is amazing. I was just blown away how the good the sound was.

The movie itself was pretty good. I'm gonna watch it again this weekend just so that I can pick up on the little things I might have missed the first time.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Bump. I finally watched this last night on Blu-Ray and am pissed I didn't get to see it in theatres. I like how it picked up right where Casino Royale left off and continued to develop Bond and really evolve him as a character rather than just going "this is Bond and this is how he is and how he will always be." It was nice to see the action upped a level compared to CR. I did miss the Bond name drop line, but the opera scene where he gets all the players in the organization was pure 007 - such a great scene.

[ANDROMADA 1]

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I saw this one at the theatre.....By far the worst bond film in terms of his true nature.....No gadgets,seldom used stealth,where was Q?If you like things getting blown up and don't care about the history or the authenticity of the Bond series then this is the one to see.If your a Bond fan from way back and have seen all of the other movies then you know what I am speaking of.Other than that it is a good-but not great rental, even on 1080p with Bose surround sound....The game was just as bad if not worse.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Did you not like Casino Royale then?

[ANDROMADA 1]

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Did you not like Casino Royale then?

It was good,I cried when the Astin Martin got destroyed I just like the classic bond better.One of my favorite Bond movies is "View to a kill".It hasnt gone to the point that I will completely disregard new bond films but it is inching its way in that direction.:wink:

[Fresh Tendrils]

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For me, Bond is more than tacky gadgets or one-liners. Bond being a cold-blooded killer in this movie made sense since it is the first true sequel in the film's franchise and that part of his character was in align with Casino Royale. It would have been nice if Solace didn't take Bond too seriously and had allowed him to be a bit more playful and charismatic like he is known to be, but Solace's pacing never really allowed for any opportunities for Bond to down-shift from calculated assassin to suave killer. Despite this, I still felt like Daniel Craig was Bond, specifically in the scene at the opera and when he eludes the other agents at the hotel. I imagine the next film will be a bit more inline with Bond's "traditional" self since he will actually be able to report back to HQ and be briefed and have some time to compose himself. Had Solace been a stand-alone film, I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much, but since it is basically Casino Royale Part 2 it works for me.

[Sandman42]

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but the opera scene where he gets all the players in the organization was pure 007 - such a great scene.

Agreed. That was my favorite scene in the movie. Especially the part where he is walking down the hall and runs right into Greene and his crew walking down the stairs.

[jfsolo]

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Personally, I hope they never go back to the old way Bond was portrayed, not even the tiniest little bit. Since the Bourne movies came out, I've wanted all the spy/covert ops/assassins type characters to be grim, efficient, single minded, dealers of death.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Personally, I hope they never go back to the old way Bond was portrayed, not even the tiniest little bit. Since the Bourne movies came out, I've wanted all the spy/covert ops/assassins type characters to be grim, efficient, single minded, dealers of death.

I thought Casino Royale did a good job of balancing the two sides of Bond and honestly I hope both sides of Bond are included in the next film. Solace did a great job of laying the groundwork of Bond being an efficient killer and it was great to witness, however, without a smirk or some kind of hint at his arrogance he didn't feel like Bond throughout the entire film. If he's a one-sided character, whats the point?

[CaptainZombie]

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I saw this one at the theatre.....By far the worst bond film in terms of his true nature.....No gadgets,seldom used stealth,where was Q?If you like things getting blown up and don't care about the history or the authenticity of the Bond series then this is the one to see.If your a Bond fan from way back and have seen all of the other movies then you know what I am speaking of.Other than that it is a good-but not great rental, even on 1080p with Bose surround sound....The game was just as bad if not worse.

Authenticity? Then you have never read the books.........because Hollywood is what made the gadgets over exposed in the later films. Daniel Craig and Sean Connery are the closest Bonds you will find to the original vision.