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  • bkfount
    All Star
    • Oct 2004
    • 8467

    #46
    Re: 300 DVD

    Originally posted by kweiss
    Come on, the movie is based on a comic book. The "Persians" serve no purpose other then villians in a comic book world, and because of this it's ridiculous to worry about an incorrect portrayal. It's not a textbook. Anyone complaining about 'racism' in the movie is being ridiculous.
    yeah, the movie actually turns out to be an exaggerated story told by a survivor to his people. So of course, the persians would look like giant monsters and whatever in the "story".

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    • MrScary
      Rookie
      • Oct 2002
      • 334

      #47
      Re: 300 DVD

      Originally posted by DeeForThree
      Yeah, oooook. Now people are going to fight against having "bad guys" in movies because they are a certain race? Give me a freakin' break.
      The problem with this movie is it changed the history around to make the Greeks look like the good guys in this. I know it's a movie. But forgive me for knowing history. Forgive me for being a black man that found his people being depicted in a way that i didn't like.
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      • Skerik
        Living in this tube
        • Mar 2004
        • 5215

        #48
        Re: 300 DVD

        Originally posted by MrScary
        The problem with this movie is it changed the history around to make the Greeks look like the good guys in this. I know it's a movie. But forgive me for knowing history. Forgive me for being a black man that found his people being depicted in a way that i didn't like.
        We forgive you.

        However, we shall not forgive you for not bowing before the awesomeness that is this movie.

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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #49
          Re: 300 DVD

          Originally posted by MrScary
          The problem with this movie is it changed the history around to make the Greeks look like the good guys in this. I know it's a movie. But forgive me for knowing history. Forgive me for being a black man that found his people being depicted in a way that i didn't like.

          It is all about entertainment first in Holly Wood! Sorry you didn't like the way the movie portray the people, but that is history, while it does suck it doesn't change the fact it happened.

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          • Chief Illinimac
            Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
            • Dec 2004
            • 2365

            #50
            Re: 300 DVD

            Originally posted by MrScary
            The problem with this movie is it changed the history around to make the Greeks look like the good guys in this. I know it's a movie. But forgive me for knowing history. Forgive me for being a black man that found his people being depicted in a way that i didn't like.
            I don't like the way white people were portrayed in Night of the Living Dead but I don't gripe about it because it's just a story.
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            • mgoblue
              Go Wings!
              • Jul 2002
              • 25477

              #51
              Re: 300 DVD

              Originally posted by DeeForThree
              I don't like the way white people were portrayed in Night of the Living Dead but I don't gripe about it because it's just a story.
              I know exactly what you mean, but I'm going to refrain from comment (as I have on the Resident Evil trailer), because OS isn't meant for these discussions...
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              • MrScary
                Rookie
                • Oct 2002
                • 334

                #52
                Re: 300 DVD

                Originally posted by mgoblue
                I know exactly what you mean, but I'm going to refrain from comment (as I have on the Resident Evil trailer), because OS isn't meant for these discussions...
                I don't think that the Resident Evil Trailer had racist undertones to it. It's just 300 not only made ethnics look bad but it TWISTED THE TRUTH to do it. That in and unto itself makes you call into question why Frank Miller did this. I understand making a movie to entertain but my goodness actually switched the motives of these two groups. He switched them.
                I could feel him if he just had two cultures going at each other for power. But he made it seem Greeks who he portrayed as White Males Bred to be Superior over any Culture that is not Greek. I know what i saw. I was taught never ever play ignorant to pleasure yourself. I watched it not once but 3 times. Frank Miller was trying to get across a point in this story. He beat the same idea in the head many times through out the film. That is not an accident. I don't scream racism every time blacks are put in a bad light. BUT THIS HAS A PATTERN.
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                • kweiss
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1886

                  #53
                  Re: 300 DVD

                  Wow, you are being ridiculous.

                  Movies have a good guy and a bad guy. Get over it.

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                  • MachoMyers
                    Old School
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7670

                    #54
                    Re: 300 DVD

                    MrScary, remember the story of "300" is told using the Spartan's narrative, who grossly exaggerated the truth.

                    Remember Pearl Harbor where the "monster invaders" tried to do battle with the magnificent Americans? Same type of deal.

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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #55
                      Re: 300 DVD

                      Originally posted by Xavier12
                      MrScary, remember the story of "300" is told using the Spartan's narrative, who grossly exaggerated the truth.

                      Remember Pearl Harbor where the "monster invaders" tried to do battle with the magnificent Americans? Same type of deal.
                      on Remember the Titans, Bertier's racist girlfriend who shakes the guys hand near the end didn't exist....Things weren't as bad at that school at that time as they imply...Movies have been changing things all the time...
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                      • MrScary
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 334

                        #56
                        Re: 300 DVD

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        on Remember the Titans, Bertier's racist girlfriend who shakes the guys hand near the end didn't exist....Things weren't as bad at that school at that time as they imply...Movies have been changing things all the time...
                        Never seen the movie but it's Brukenheimer Produced film which is always exaggerated.
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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #57
                          Re: 300 DVD

                          Think about that had the Spartans as the good guy. Spartans were pretty vicious people. The movie was the view of the Spartans, so I can see why it was like this.

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                          • MrScary
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 334

                            #58
                            Re: 300 DVD

                            All your points are valid. I never said the movie sucked. I'm very educated in matters of History. For people who don't know much about history of course your not gonna see it. This is my last post on this. Thank all of you for being adults with this discussion. I wasn't really trying to keep this going but sometimes you just have to make your point.
                            The Bright One is my Point of Reference, It's my Guide And it always becomes The Center of my Chart. I Always name it Dionne. It's my Constant.

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                            • MrScary
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 334

                              #59
                              Re: 300 DVD

                              Originally posted by Scottd
                              Think about that had the Spartans as the good guy. Spartans were pretty vicious people. The movie was the view of the Spartans, so I can see why it was like this.
                              I'm sorry one more thing. This is not the view of Spartans of Sparta. It is Frank Miller's view. Frank Miller. He wrote it.
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                              • bkfount
                                All Star
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 8467

                                #60
                                Re: 300 DVD

                                Originally posted by MrScary
                                All your points are valid. I never said the movie sucked. I'm very educated in matters of History. For people who don't know much about history of course your not gonna see it. This is my last post on this. Thank all of you for being adults with this discussion. I wasn't really trying to keep this going but sometimes you just have to make your point.
                                I virtually had a 2nd minor in history at college. It's been a favorite subject of mine since grade school. Nice way to cop out of a discussion though, by insulting people's intelligence when they don't agree with your view.

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