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  • fistofrage
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13682
    #1261
    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

    Originally posted by USF11
    You can buy companies using a tiny amount of money down. I have done case studies where people bought control of 500 million dollar compaines using 5 million bucks, there are many variables. Think about it like buying a house with 5-10% down. It may not seem rational but it is very possible.
    Of course you can(But its Very rare and unlikely and the bankers are investing with you, not just loaning the money) and like you said there are a ton of variables involved, but you are not going to be able to sneak up on anyone by doing so. Believe me, a large multi-national company would know exactly who was coming at them with a takeover bid.

    Nevermind, this is a TV show and not a global finance class, I'll just watch this play out. But I'm skeptical that this show could be jumping the shark soon.
    Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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      • USF11
        C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
        • Jun 2003
        • 4245
        #1262
        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

        Originally posted by ehh
        Wouldn't that only be if the company was for sale though? I can't picture someone with $5 mil deciding to buy some Fortune 500 company.
        Its usually in situations of bankruptcy or distress.

        Isnt it also possible that she had some previous ownership in the company? just for being in the family?
        "Good music transcends all physical limits, it's more then something you hear, it's something that you feel, when the author, experience, and passion is real" - Murs (And this is for)

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          • p_rushing
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 14514
            #1263
            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

            Originally posted by USF11
            Its usually in situations of bankruptcy or distress.

            Isnt it also possible that she had some previous ownership in the company? just for being in the family?
            She probably had some and I suspect she has been taking shares little by little over time. Her father thinks she is dumb, but she obvious has done some studying. She did it correctly, using 5 bank accounts, she probably bought up the shares.

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              • HealyMonster
                Titans Era has begun.
                • Aug 2002
                • 5992
                #1264
                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                i re watched the casket episode and did some "pondering" what if Ben was in the casket? since ben seems to be "on the way out" as Lock seems to be taking his spot, and jack would also not consider him friend or family, and maybe Jack viewed Ben as his way back to theisland so now he died and Jack feels hopeless. at the end of the casket episode is when he tells kate he "needs to get back"

                That seems like more realistic since I cant see jack trying to kill himself after finding out sawyer, michael, jin,etc died.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962
                    #1265
                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                    Originally posted by Renegade44
                    i re watched the casket episode and did some "pondering" what if Ben was in the casket? since ben seems to be "on the way out" as Lock seems to be taking his spot, and jack would also not consider him friend or family, and maybe Jack viewed Ben as his way back to theisland so now he died and Jack feels hopeless. at the end of the casket episode is when he tells kate he "needs to get back"

                    That seems like more realistic since I cant see jack trying to kill himself after finding out sawyer, michael, jin,etc died.
                    All your points are valid, but I think that's too obvious - I think that's what the writers wanted everyone to think at first.

                    - Jack says the deceased is "neither friend or family"
                    - Kate gets pissed and says "Why would I go?" when asked if she'll join Jack at the funeral
                    - Obviously Ben has no family or friends on the mainland.

                    It just seems to simple and obvious for the Lost writers but ya never know.
                    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                      • HealyMonster
                        Titans Era has begun.
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 5992
                        #1266
                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        All your points are valid, but I think that's too obvious - I think that's what the writers wanted everyone to think at first.

                        - Jack says the deceased is "neither friend or family"
                        - Kate gets pissed and says "Why would I go?" when asked if she'll join Jack at the funeral
                        - Obviously Ben has no family or friends on the mainland.

                        It just seems to simple and obvious for the Lost writers but ya never know.


                        true, and also i am confused as to when ben was in the desert and where that fits into the chain of events. beofre/after the oceanic 6,etc knowing that would also say alot about the storyline.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203
                            #1267
                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                            The only thing about the "obvious" point is that sometimes I think we forget to give ourselves a lot of credit.

                            There are 11 million viewers of Lost and I'd bet that at least 75% of them don't really try to dig deep into the story. Most of them just take it one episode at a time. We aren't those people.

                            For example, this group and another message board I post in were aware that Claire and Jack were related a season before it was revealed on Lost. It was something I remember researching into as we all tried to figure out what Christian was doing in Australia.

                            It ended up being a big reveal on Lost but for me, and quite a few others, it was just another day in Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. We already knew.

                            Perhaps, we've already figured it out. Ben goes by a lot of names and maybe it really is him under a different name. Maybe. It's either that or maybe it's Michael. He's been going under a different name too and we already know that "J" (like Johnson) was a part of the person's name.

                            Ah, forget it, they've got us confused.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203
                                #1268
                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                Originally posted by Renegade44
                                true, and also i am confused as to when ben was in the desert and where that fits into the chain of events. beofre/after the oceanic 6,etc knowing that would also say alot about the storyline.

                                It's definitely after the Oceanic 6 are off the Island but before Sayid's flashforward (killing people for Ben).

                                Unless you mean you'd like to know where Ben and Sayid's relationship fits into Jack's flashforwards. I'd be interested in knowing that too.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                  • colkilla
                                    MVP
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 1539
                                    #1269
                                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                    the first initial of the person in the casket is irrelevant if we think it is ben because he has so many aliases (sp?)...

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                                      • CMH
                                        Making you famous
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 26203
                                        #1270
                                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                        Right. That's my point. If it's Ben then his many different names would cover up any holes in the story.
                                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                          • TheLetterZ
                                            All Star
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 6752
                                            #1271
                                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                            2 more days. To pass the time, check out this Lost quiz.

                                            I scored a 2086 out of 3900, primarily due to having watched all four seasons in the last 2 months.

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                                              • CMH
                                                Making you famous
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 26203
                                                #1272
                                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                                I gave up after 15 questions. I love the show but I couldn't tell you what happened in specific episodes.
                                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                                  • p_rushing
                                                    Hall Of Fame
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 14514
                                                    #1273
                                                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                                    1010 for me, most of them I had 2 choices and I picked the wrong answer, the others I had no clue.

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                                                      • boomhauertjs
                                                        All Star
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 5373
                                                        #1274
                                                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                                        899

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                                                          • ASB37
                                                            MVP
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 2624
                                                            #1275
                                                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                                            Got a 957 but should get extra points for guessing how many times hurly has said dude correctly. This quiz was rediculous.
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