NASA Cover-up

[fistofrage]

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Now:
Aliens, yes I believe in them, I even believe they know about us. I don't know if they have a moon base or whatever, but I could see why a government would lie about it. Now as has been suggested earlier, a lot of people would have to be lying about this, so maybe the whole moon theory isn't all that true. I have always wondered what would happen if aliens ever did come here, and made official contact and all of that (hopefully peaceful). How would the powers that be respond, how would our lives be changed? One of my 7th grade teachers would say something to the effect that "Maybe aliens are here, maybe they aren't, but sometimes I wonder if they saw us and just figured we weren't worth their time or they didn't want to get involved with us because they saw our history". That made sense to me, if it is an ultra-peaceful society, look at human history, we get in some big war all the time, I don't know if I would want to mess with that, let them sort it all out before giving them a lot of technology or whatever.

You make a valid point, everyone seems to think that the Aliens would have all this destructive capability. They may not. They may not have anything close to what we have. If the entire galaxy was the United States, Planet Earth might seem like Compton to them. No Alien in their right mind would just land here and try to make peace. I'm pretty laid back, but I am sure that I would try to kill it if I didn't run in terror first, communicating would probably be my 3rd choice just out of instinct and most of you would be the same. Its a risky proposition to say the least.

And if they try to give information to us, its not just going to be in an English manual. There would be huge communication barriers to overcome and too many people would end up being involved for it to remain a secret.

I don't know if there are aliens or not, but I know that we are not actively communicating with them and never have. I think that we just need to give the past civilizations some credit.

[Double Eights]

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize ET was a reality.

Again, so because you've never seen them, they aren't real? It must be great having that way of thinking. Must not be very exciting.

Avoiding the topic at hand are we?

You brought us on this tangent. Don't blame it on me.

[Graphik]

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You make a valid point, everyone seems to think that the Aliens would have all this destructive capability. They may not. They may not have anything close to what we have. If the entire galaxy was the United States, Planet Earth might seem like Compton to them. No Alien in their right mind would just land here and try to make peace. I'm pretty laid back, but I am sure that I would try to kill it if I didn't run in terror first, communicating would probably be my 3rd choice just out of instinct and most of you would be the same. Its a risky proposition to say the least.

And if they try to give information to us, its not just going to be in an English manual. There would be huge communication barriers to overcome and too many people would end up being involved for it to remain a secret.

I don't know if there are aliens or not, but I know that we are not actively communicating with them and never have. I think that we just need to give the past civilizations some credit.

I believe aliens exsist but haven't contacted us yet. Searching for life on other planets seems like searching for a needle in a haystack. I'm sure they are, just as us humans are doing, searching in the wrong places. Looking at the wrong planets and coming up with the wrong answers. As far as science goes, its ever-evolving so what we know now could be completely wrong and the next generation may get it right or it could be the next generation.

I tell you what though, you know who I think is a real alien or a person sent from the future? George Lucas. His ideas and concpets for the Star Wars universe are becoming more and more real by the decade including the mind manipulating powers of the force. Hell, we just sent a light saber on board the Space Station. It all starts right there.

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Again, so because you've never seen them, they aren't real? It must be great having that way of thinking. Must not be very exciting.

I haven't seen the wind and know it's not a fantasy. Sorry to tell you but Sam Cassell really is human, and men in Black was just a movie.

You brought us on this tangent. Don't blame it on me.

What's your neighbors name again?

[sva91]

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Just to add to the discussion. I was watching some show that talked about aliens coming to earth thousands of years ago and injecting some of their DNA into like neanderthals or caveman. At first I thought it was ridiculous, but the more I thought about it the more it actually made some sort of sense. I think we have advanced way too fast compared to our ancestors(monkeys for those who believe that).

[Double Eights]

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What's your neighbors name again?

I know my neighbors quite well. I know my entire neighborhood actually quite well.

But to answer your question, my neighbor died of Pancreatic Cancer last March. He and his wife are/were good friends with my family. I considered them non-blood related family.

Don't patronize me again.

[jmood88]

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According to the Bible Solomon had an intersting thought: Ecclesiates 1:9-11(NIV)
9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

10 Is there anything of which one can say,
"Look! This is something new"?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.

11 There is no remembrance of men of old,
and even those who are yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow.

Not trying to preach to anyone on here, but he has a very valid point about civilizations and the remembering of things done in the past and how they are perceived in the current day by the current day group of people. I don't believe we are in a time loop, but I do believe we don't really have a full understanding of the way things were done in ancient civillization nor will future civillizations know fully what we do and how we live. The internet and other doucumenting vehicles we have will make it easier to make assumptions. My point in bringing all of this up is as a Pastor, I don't think the discovery of other life forms will diminish the faith of those who believe. If you believe in an omniscient,onmipresent God, then your belief system allows for you to believe that he is still in control and still the ultimate creator of all.

Good post.

[jmood88]

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Aliens? Mankind wiped out multiple times, stars quazars and galaxies.

This thread sounds like a Star Trek convention.

People are wondering about aliens and probably half the folks on this board don't even really know their next door neighbor.

All of it is just discussion and interesting to think about.

[plasticbeast]

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I haven't seen the wind and know it's not a fantasy. Sorry to tell you but Sam Cassell really is human, and men in Black was just a movie.




What's your neighbors name again?

Why are you posting in this thread? you obviously don't want to hear or add to what others have to say on these topics, so do us a favor and stop posting in this thread. Thanks.

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I know my neighbors quite well. I know my entire neighborhood actually quite well.

But to answer your question, my neighbor died of Pancreatic Cancer last March. He and his wife are/were good friends with my family. I considered them non-blood related family.

Don't patronize me again.

I love to know that you do. I'm sure many here cannot say that same thing.


On with the topic still, I would also love to know the aliens you've come in contact with. Why it isn't a fantasy and where is the proof.

[Graphik]

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the Antikythera Device

I just read abou this. It would be funny if this thing was just some kind of toy somebody made. It does have the zodiac symbols and other things pointing towards it being some type of calender, it could still just be a toy. Maybe a sex toy??

[jmood88]

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First off with the pyramids:

Not built by slaves, any Egyptologist will tell you that, examine all the evidence and it is pretty easy. The Hebrews weren't even in Egypt at the time, the time they entered was with the Hyksos invasion after the end of the Old Kingdom (which is the period of Egyptian history which built the big famous pyramids). We have found the quarries they used, we have found the overseers tombs, we have found the workers themselves, and just recently we have found what seems to suggest ramps inside the great pyramid at Giza. The remarkable thing about the pyramids is not that they were built, but really how precise they were, that I cannot explain how. If you look at the pyramids built before the ones at Giza, you can see failure after failure and trial after trial, it isn't like Giza was their first try. If you want to discuss the details of the pyramids with me, feel free I am pretty well versed in this. If you want something to look at and really get your mind going, read some of the stuff put out by Robert Schoch about the age of the sphinx, that to me has a lot more questions than the pyramids (although I still think it was built by Khafre).

As stated earlier by I think Fistofrage, we don't give ancient people enough credit. I think sometimes people assume ancient people weren't smart because they weren't launching sattelites and flying planes. Look at the technology being put out in the Mediterranean World up until the fall of Rome. Some things which have emerged are: the Antikythera Device (you want something to marvel at, look at that thing), the steam engine, batteries, use of hydraulics, Rome at times was on the verge of an industrial revolution, but the empire was so badly run and overextended they couldn't quite get there. Watch a show like Ancient Discoveries on the History Channel and you find some pretty wild stuff, specifically the works of Heron of Alexandria. They knew the size of the Earth and its shape well before Copernicus or his ilk emerged thousands of years later. In my opinion, one of the greatest shames in history was the distruction of libraries in the western world as the Roman Empire fell, as well as the Byzantine Emperor Justinian destroying anything he deemed "unchristian". There is a lot more to the ancient world than we know now, and they did some pretty impressive stuff.

The pyramids in both Egypt and the Mayan civilizations and the various other structures built by ancient civilizations have always fascinated me. These people were supposedly inferior in terms of technology and thinking yet they were able to do these incredible mathematic calculations to figure how to build these things perfectly. There are these mounds built by the Hopewell native americans in Ohio that can calculate the cycles of the moon to the letter.

[Double Eights]

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On with the topic still, I would also love to know the aliens you've come in contact with. Why it isn't a fantasy and where is the proof.

Because I'm open-minded.

People used to think the World was flat. Without open-minded individuals, where would we be?

[Money99]

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Now:
Aliens, yes I believe in them, I even believe they know about us. I don't know if they have a moon base or whatever, but I could see why a government would lie about it. Now as has been suggested earlier, a lot of people would have to be lying about this, so maybe the whole moon theory isn't all that true. I have always wondered what would happen if aliens ever did come here, and made official contact and all of that (hopefully peaceful). How would the powers that be respond, how would our lives be changed? One of my 7th grade teachers would say something to the effect that "Maybe aliens are here, maybe they aren't, but sometimes I wonder if they saw us and just figured we weren't worth their time or they didn't want to get involved with us because they saw our history". That made sense to me, if it is an ultra-peaceful society, look at human history, we get in some big war all the time, I don't know if I would want to mess with that, let them sort it all out before giving them a lot of technology or whatever.

Interesting theory devon.

I heard someone once say that if aliens have visited our planet they are more than likely to be peaceful. The thinking behind it was that in order for a civilization to create technology for massive space exploration, obviously they had to work together and pool all their resources to realise this technology. That would mean no wars on their planet.
Who's to say that if every country and nation got along extremely well and we were able to use all our resources we wouldn't be exploring other galaxies right now?

And again, if they are very peaceful, they probably wouldn't want to reach out because they'd fear we'd try to blow them away with nukes.

Fear causes wars and I don't think seeing a giant spaceship land in Washington DC would instill happiness or glee in most peoples minds. The majority of people would be scared out of their wits.

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Good questions. I've heard theories that Atlantis was actually made up of aliens who brought their knowledge to other civilizations like the Mayans and the Egyptians.

These are fun things to speculate on but it's strange to think that if aliens did have contact with ancient man, why are they staying away now?

I'm going to try and look it up but I believe an 'airplane' was discovered in a pyramid at one time.
I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT: I got it wrong. There was evidence that the Egyptians may have known about flying devices:
http://myunknownplanet.com/index.php...cient-airplane

Man, those look like actual airplanes if you ask me. Was that really discovered in one of the pyramids?