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  • Chief Illinimac
    Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
    • Dec 2004
    • 2365

    #136
    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

    Originally posted by Double Eights
    Hypocrit.

    "I don't see aliens. There aren't any" - You.

    Edit: That is more contradictory than hypocritical.
    Sorry, broseph. I was referring to supposed "sightings" not saying they were actually aliens. You seem to be getting pretty perturbed by my comments. Again, I'm sorry to ruin your belief that aliens will come and visit Earth in your lifetime.
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    • Chief Illinimac
      Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
      • Dec 2004
      • 2365

      #137
      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

      Originally posted by Double Eights
      Honestly, I don't see why DeeForThree is under the impression that no sane person has ever seen a UFO. Just look at the first post of the thread.

      "Former pilots, officials call for UFO study."
      I apologize. Perhaps they are technically sane, but no one who isn't trying to draw attention to themselves for some reason has seen an alien.
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      • Chaos81
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 17150

        #138
        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

        Originally posted by Scottd
        Lmao, for real, if Aliens are real, don't you think that they would have come and visit.
        Even though I think someone already said this in this or the other thread, what makes you think they would be any smarter or more advanced than we are?

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        • rubisco43
          All Star
          • Feb 2003
          • 4372

          #139
          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

          Originally posted by triplej96
          Ah, complete naivety.... When the Government goes back and fourth with a subject and people that worked for the Government have spoken about this very subject this would lead people to not trust the government. Not to mention the government has lied and will lie about some things.
          yes, I'm naive for challenging your beliefs. Way to come back with name calling.

          I tend to believe that you have such mistrust for the goverment that outside of complete admission to the existence of aliens (true OR not), there will be nothing else sufficient for you. You've already made up your mind. That's naive (admittedly, almost as naive as my inability to believe in aliens).
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          • Jasong7777
            All Star
            • May 2005
            • 6415

            #140
            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

            THE GOVERNMENT LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING

            Always has and always will
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            • ThreeKing
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 5852

              #141
              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

              Some dudes are starting to get on my nerves in this thread.

              I understand that you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but the guys that are instantly debunking the whole UFO theory are just pulling opinions out of their arse without any kind of research while others and myself are stating clearly that we have been doing research for awhile now.

              One guy in here was shooting down the FACT about astronauts coming forward when numerous links and videos in this same thread are there to see.

              What I'm saying is don't come with a strong debunking opinion without any knowledge of the subject or WHEN YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF!

              LOL. I feel a little better.

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              • triplej96
                24fps
                • Aug 2002
                • 2152

                #142
                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                Originally posted by ThreeKing
                Some dudes are starting to get on my nerves in this thread.

                I understand that you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but the guys that are instantly debunking the whole UFO theory are just pulling opinions out of their arse without any kind of research while others and myself are stating clearly that we have been doing research for awhile now.

                One guy in here was shooting down the FACT about astronauts coming forward when numerous links and videos in this same thread are there to see.

                What I'm saying is don't come with a strong debunking opinion without any knowledge of the subject or WHEN YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF!

                LOL. I feel a little better.
                It is honestly not that big of a surprise most people who haven't done any research or interviewed people or haven't worked with a top Ufologist would have the same feelings. Especially if this is something you have just began to think about (this thread) it can be scary in many ways for people. Not to mention the riddicule... Just wanted to make myself clear here I'm not saying I'm 100% positive that aliens exist it's just math/science says they do and well the Universe is huge and largely unexplored...

                As far as UFOs are concerned that is 100% real no doubt about read/listen to the facts and evidence if you want too or don't. Most I imagine on this board would rather watch sports than even think about this subject much less research it. That isn't a bad thing per say I use to play college basketball I love sports but over the years my life intrests have changed for sure. I must say this thread isn't about a belief system not for me this isn't religion it is about a fact system. Just as ThreeKing said everyone is entitled to a opinion but some opinions are valued more than others. In no way am I trying to attack anyone sorry if anyone thought that but don't participate in a conversation if you are just here to get a one liner in or make a claim like this is fake....This is a discussion and hopefully an intelligent one.
                -Josh

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                • Double Eights
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5733

                  #143
                  Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                  Originally posted by ThreeKing
                  Very interesting. Not saying it's true, just intriguing.


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                  It would be more believeable had the shuttle been actually leaving our planet, instead of coming back in. The aliens would have had multiple chances to shoot down the shuttle while up in space, but they waited until the shuttle was re-entering our atmosphere?

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                  • Chief Illinimac
                    Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 2365

                    #144
                    Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                    Originally posted by ThreeKing
                    Some dudes are starting to get on my nerves in this thread.

                    I understand that you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but the guys that are instantly debunking the whole UFO theory are just pulling opinions out of their arse without any kind of research while others and myself are stating clearly that we have been doing research for awhile now.

                    One guy in here was shooting down the FACT about astronauts coming forward when numerous links and videos in this same thread are there to see.

                    What I'm saying is don't come with a strong debunking opinion without any knowledge of the subject or WHEN YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF!

                    LOL. I feel a little better.
                    I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth. They would have been made public by now, there's no way the government could cover it up.

                    You think if aliens visited, they'd only visit the U.S? Please. I doubt every government in the world is covering this up. Math says we aren't alone, but math also says that if they've been visiting numerous times the past 100 years, we would know it.

                    If I'm wrong, I would eat all the crow the world (and aliens) have to offer. But until then, go cry me a river, because I don't see things your way and don't believe every bit of "research" that I hear.
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                    • triplej96
                      24fps
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 2152

                      #145
                      Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                      Originally posted by DeeForThree
                      I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth. They would have been made public by now, there's no way the government could cover it up.

                      You think if aliens visited, they'd only visit the U.S? Please. I doubt every government in the world is covering this up. Math says we aren't alone, but math also says that if they've been visiting numerous times the past 100 years, we would know it.

                      If I'm wrong, I would eat all the crow the world (and aliens) have to offer. But until then, go cry me a river, because I don't see things your way and don't believe every bit of "research" that I hear.
                      Fair enough but there are quite a few credible abduction cases and alien sightings. Well just about every other government in the world but the US has been outspoken and have disclosed information about UFOs! As far as "we would know it" I would venture to say a select few do know the truth and their are many ancient artifacts that point to ETs as well. It isn't fair to say that if Aliens have been visiting we would know or our government couldn't cover it up. Maybe the ETs don't want everyone to know were being visited and well I wouldn't underestimate the government.
                      Last edited by triplej96; 11-21-2007, 11:15 AM.
                      -Josh

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                      • ThreeKing
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5852

                        #146
                        Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                        Originally posted by DeeForThree
                        I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth. They would have been made public by now, there's no way the government could cover it up.

                        You think if aliens visited, they'd only visit the U.S? Please. I doubt every government in the world is covering this up. Math says we aren't alone, but math also says that if they've been visiting numerous times the past 100 years, we would know it.

                        If I'm wrong, I would eat all the crow the world (and aliens) have to offer. But until then, go cry me a river, because I don't see things your way and don't believe every bit of "research" that I hear.
                        Nobody crying here tough guy. I'm not trying to make you see things my way or a certain way. All I'm saying is you and some others are coming in here and shooting it down without any kind of knowledge on the subject.

                        So how can I respect your opinion??

                        When you say..."I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth"........that makes you sound ignorant. How do you know? How can you debunk without at least looking into the matter?? Does that make sense??

                        I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little skeptical myself sometimes. I always ask the question if there is an Air Force base somewhat nearby or major aircraft builder or distributor nearby when someone talks about UFO sightings.

                        And who says this only happens in the U.S.?? Do you habitually follow Russian TV? German TV? Austrailian TV? Do you get newscasts from all over the entire planet?? So how can you or anyone know what the UFO situation is possibly like from places other than the U.S.??

                        One of the biggest UFO sightings was in Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters in Suffolk, England. Military officials were just on Larry King the other night stating what happened. What about former Governor Fife Symington coming forward.....that's right a former Governor....saying he saw, and I quote...." an alien spacecraft"??

                        Numerous respected former astronauts, high ranking military members, former commercial and military fighter pilots with impeccable service records have all come forward. Are you telling me all these people since the early '40's have lost their minds??

                        You're right, I should believe some college student at U of I(by the way I love U of I's football team, my wife went to college there) versus hundreds of beyond credible people.

                        If you ever have time watch the "Disclosure Project". Dr. Greer who headlined this was put on "shut down" by the U.S. Goverment for this video.
                        Last edited by ThreeKing; 11-21-2007, 11:18 AM.

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                        • triplej96
                          24fps
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 2152

                          #147
                          Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                          Originally posted by ThreeKing
                          Nobody crying here tough guy. I'm not trying to make you see things my way or a certain way. All I'm saying is you and some others are coming in here and shooting it down without any kind of knowledge on the subject.

                          So how can I respect your opinion??

                          When you say..."I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth"........that makes you sound ignorant. How do you know? How can you debunk without at least looking into the matter?? Does that make sense??

                          I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little skeptical myself sometimes. I always ask the question if there is an Air Force base somewhat nearby or major aircraft builder or distributor nearby when someone talks about UFO sightings.

                          And who says this only happens in the U.S.?? Do you habitually follow Russian TV? German TV? Austrailian TV? Do you get newscasts from all over the entire planet?? So how can you or anyone know what the UFO situation is possibly like from places other than the U.S.??

                          One of the biggest UFO sightings was in Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters in Suffolk, England. Military officials were just on Larry King the other night stating what happened. What about former Governor Fife Symington coming forward.....that's right a former Governor....saying he saw, and I quote...." an alien spacecraft"??

                          Numerous respected former astronauts, high ranking military members, former commercial and military fighter pilots with impecable service records have all come forward. Are you telling me all these people since the early '40's have lost their minds??

                          You're right, I should believe some college student at U of I(by the way I love U of I's football team, my wife went to college there) versus hundreds of beyond credible people.

                          If you ever have time watch the "Disclosure Project". Dr. Greer who headlined this was put on "shut down" by the U.S. Goverment for this video.
                          All good ponits three I can tell you have researched. You should always be skeptical but without a decent amount of reserach one could be called ignorant for making certain claims.
                          Last edited by triplej96; 11-21-2007, 11:35 AM.
                          -Josh

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                          • ThreeKing
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5852

                            #148
                            Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                            Originally posted by Double Eights
                            It would be more believeable had the shuttle been actually leaving our planet, instead of coming back in. The aliens would have had multiple chances to shoot down the shuttle while up in space, but they waited until the shuttle was re-entering our atmosphere?
                            Double Eights, here is the second part of that video. I'm just as skeptical on this as you are, but nonetheless, it is very interesting.

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                            • Chief Illinimac
                              Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 2365

                              #149
                              Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                              Originally posted by ThreeKing
                              Nobody crying here tough guy. I'm not trying to make you see things my way or a certain way. All I'm saying is you and some others are coming in here and shooting it down without any kind of knowledge on the subject.

                              So how can I respect your opinion??

                              When you say..."I don't have to do research to know that real aliens haven't visited Earth"........that makes you sound ignorant. How do you know? How can you debunk without at least looking into the matter?? Does that make sense??

                              I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little skeptical myself sometimes. I always ask the question if there is an Air Force base somewhat nearby or major aircraft builder or distributor nearby when someone talks about UFO sightings.

                              And who says this only happens in the U.S.?? Do you habitually follow Russian TV? German TV? Austrailian TV? Do you get newscasts from all over the entire planet?? So how can you or anyone know what the UFO situation is possibly like from places other than the U.S.??

                              One of the biggest UFO sightings was in Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters in Suffolk, England. Military officials were just on Larry King the other night stating what happened. What about former Governor Fife Symington coming forward.....that's right a former Governor....saying he saw, and I quote...." an alien spacecraft"??

                              Numerous respected former astronauts, high ranking military members, former commercial and military fighter pilots with impeccable service records have all come forward. Are you telling me all these people since the early '40's have lost their minds??

                              You're right, I should believe some college student at U of I(by the way I love U of I's football team, my wife went to college there) versus hundreds of beyond credible people.

                              If you ever have time watch the "Disclosure Project". Dr. Greer who headlined this was put on "shut down" by the U.S. Goverment for this video.
                              1) You said I was getting on your nerves. Perhaps not crying, but definitely a whining tone from your post.

                              2) I'm not saying they've lost their minds, but they may have false perceptions about what they are seeing because they are looking for aliens and may be psychologically seeing them in normal, everyday occurrences. They haven't been "abducted" they are usually seen from a distance or are UFOs, am I right? I don't think anyone has been close enough to shake an alien's hand or whatever they have...

                              3) I think if there was a legitimate alien sighting somewhere else in the world I would have heard about it. A lot of people would know about it. It wouldn't be some massive secret like it is now.

                              4) Yeah, I'm shooting it down with not much outside research because believing aliens are/have been here are like ghosts being real. I'm pretty sure there are studies that suggest the existence of ghosts, but I know there aren't any. Sometimes this "evidence" or "studies" don't necessarily mean something is fact, and I need something more concrete to persuade me.

                              It's like all those studies you hear about everyday on the news. Like where one day potato chips cause cancer, and the next day they prevent cancer. Which one is it?

                              5) You should respect my opinion because although I haven't used your source of "evidence," I still have very valid points that haven't been truly debunked. Maybe astronauts have seen stuff in space... doesn't prove anything. Maybe there have been "sightings" in other places of the world... doesn't prove they really saw aliens because we don't really know what was seen.

                              I don't know why this is getting personal with some of you. I assure you it isn't personal from my standpoint, but some of you guys apparently can't handle a differing point of view on a subject that has little to no concrete evidence about it.
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                              • Chief Illinimac
                                Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 2365

                                #150
                                Re: Is the truth about to come out???

                                Originally posted by triplej96
                                All good ponits three I can't tell you have researched. You should always be skeptical but without a decent amount of reserach one could be called ignorant for making certain claims.
                                Haha, I'm ignorant? I don't need to do tons of research to know that aliens aren't visiting Earth. We'd know about it. Period. We wouldn't be playing this game if this were true. Maybe when the aliens come you can convince them to make me a slave first since you believed in them.
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