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 I wasn't really focusing on the lady. Clearly, she's F'd up beyond all repair. But, this girl has probably demonstrated some suicidal tendencies (or at least had them) to this point and that means special precautions. So, I would know who these friends are she's visiting and I would know her parents very well. I would know how she is being supervised at a given household and what activities they are doing. Sure....teenagers are going to always try to find ways. But there are also ways to try to stay one step ahead.First of all they are human they are going to make mistakes, and if she really wants to get on the net she can do it at a friends house. I hear what are saying, but lets say she was your daughter and she got on the net at a friends house. Now how would you feel about that lady now?Comment
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 Exactly, the parents let her have the account so she WOULDN'T just make one they didn't know about, they were letting here have some controlled freedom. One where they could have some sort of control.First of all they are human they are going to make mistakes, and if she really wants to get on the net she can do it at a friends house. I hear what are saying, but lets say she was your daughter and she got on the net at a friends house. Now how would you feel about that lady now?Comment
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 That argument is so ridiculously ********... Wow...So if I gave someone a gun at their lowest point and told them "do it", and they killed themselves I shouldn't be held responsible? You may say "Nope, you shouldn't". Let me ask you then what if it was a family member of yours that ended up killing themselves. Would I be guilty of wrong doing then?
 
 Yea.. She told her to run to her closet, tied the belt up, put it around her neck, and told her to choke herself. At that point, I would say she is responsible. Callin her a hoochie and sayin the world is better off without her is FAR from that.
 
 And you had the balls to say a post of mine was ignorant...Comment
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 I've only read up to the revealing of Lori Drew, but you can't blame him for her death. I don't know if it's "against the law" for creating a false personality, either.
 
 Messed up? Most definitely... but it's also from both parties. Why would a 13 year old be chatting with a "16 year old" anyway?
 
 Poor kid. However, I don't know too many people that would hang themselves over such a statement.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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 I'm sorry....calling someone names and being mean online isn't anywhere near the same as "giving someone a gun". Otherwise then any online fight at OS could be constituted attempted murder (or assisted suicide). What if I'm on meds and you're pushing me over the edge RIGHT NOW? I'm not, but you don't know, do you? ZOMG SkunkWurks just told me to kill myself, he's being mean online.So if I gave someone a gun at their lowest point and told them "do it", and they killed themselves I shouldn't be held responsible? You may say "Nope, you shouldn't". Let me ask you then what if it was a family member of yours that ended up killing themselves. Would I be guilty of wrong doing then?Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment
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 It is tough, I think if you have a kid like they did, they should be more hands on with their kid. I don't think I would kill the lady, but I would think about it. Yes she did a mean thing, but if you do mean things don't be shocked if you pissed off the wrong person someday. I mean take driving. If someone cuts you off you get pretty pissed, that is OK, but some day it might be the wrong person to mess with.Comment
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 Apparently they were more hands-on with her but they can't be around her 24/7.It is tough, I think if you have a kid like they did, they should be more hands on with their kid. I don't think I would kill the lady, but I would think about it. Yes she did a mean thing, but if you do mean things don't be shocked if you pissed off the wrong person someday. I mean take driving. If someone cuts you off you get pretty pissed, that is OK, but some day it might be the wrong person to mess with.Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
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 You guys have obviously never dealt with someone who's truely emotionally unstable. What that grown woman did to a child is just as bad as handing her a gun IMO. But unless you've dealt with serious mental illness you wouldn't know, but I say ignorance is no excuse. That grown woman messed with an already troubled child and caused her death. She was a facilitator in the girls death, she knew the girl was on anti depressants and she still made the choice to mess with her head.Comment
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 See you're being rediculous, the woman knew the child was messed up, and that she had serious mental problems, what part of that do you not understand? She set up a false identity, to fool the girl and then crush her. It wasn't just name calling, but whatever I'm not gonna argue with people who don't know what they're talking about.I'm sorry....calling someone names and being mean online isn't anywhere near the same as "giving someone a gun". Otherwise then any online fight at OS could be constituted attempted murder (or assisted suicide). What if I'm on meds and you're pushing me over the edge RIGHT NOW? I'm not, but you don't know, do you? ZOMG SkunkWurks just told me to kill myself, he's being mean online.Comment
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 See you're being rediculous, the woman knew the child was messed up, and that she had serious mental problems, what part of that do you not understand? She set up a false identity, to fool the girl and then crush her. It wasn't just name calling, but whatever I'm not gonna argue with people who don't know what they're talking about.
 Thank you Doctor. I do agree with what you said.  I think the lady should have some kind of punishment. I do agree with what you said.  I think the lady should have some kind of punishment.Comment
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 I understand, and I completely agree (and have all thread) that this woman was completely evil and that I have no idea how she sleeps at night. I know I couldn't if I were her.See you're being rediculous, the woman knew the child was messed up, and that she had serious mental problems, what part of that do you not understand? She set up a false identity, to fool the girl and then crush her. It wasn't just name calling, but whatever I'm not gonna argue with people who don't know what they're talking about.
 
 That being said, if the child has that intense of mental issues, should they be on myspace in the first place? With someone that fragile I hardly think myspace is appropriate. If this girl was knowingly suicidal, then why wasn't she on suicide watch at a mental care facility. Apparently she was in much worse shape than anyone knew. I'm not blaming the parents, and I understand how fragile some people can be, and what can happen.
 
 I don't disagree that the woman was evil, wrong, etc...I just don't think she is legally liable. Morally liable? Hell f'ing yeah. I really hope God or whatever's out there pays this woman back in the end! Was this woman the primary cause of the girl's suicide? Maybe not cause, but impetus. Sadly all this girl needed was a push, and this sick, sad woman gave her that.
 
 We just can't go sending her to jail or killing her because then it's a slippery, slippery slope.
 
 We can agree to disagree, I know that some people are way more litigious than I am...Last edited by mgoblue; 11-29-2007, 11:34 AM.Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment
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 I understand all that, but this girl is 13, and obviously depressed. This adult knew that. This is pathetic, I seriously would be in jail if this happened to my kid or cousin.
 
 There is no doubt in my mind that this girl would be alive and well right now if it wasn't for this act by the neighbor. People are so sick.Comment
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 I agree with you, and if it was my family member I'd take things into my own hands because I know the courts can't do a damn thing here...I understand all that, but this girl is 13, and obviously depressed. This adult knew that. This is pathetic, I seriously would be in jail if this happened to my kid or cousin.
 
 There is no doubt in my mind that this girl would be alive and well right now if it wasn't for this act by the neighbor. People are so sick.Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment

 
		
	 
		
	 
		
	
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