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  • TD73
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    • Dec 2004
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    #16
    Re: Taste in music?

    Laugh if you want but some ten years ago I hated country music. But now its all I listen too. Still love classic rock but i'm not really into todays rock music and the classics can get repetitive to me.

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    • funky_chicken
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      • Jul 2002
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      #17
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      As I get older I find myself listening and enjoying the older stuff more and more. Lately been listening to some Chicago, Bob Seger, ZZ Top. Too much of today's music sounds the same even when going from band to band.

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      • Bornindamecca
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        • Jul 2007
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        #18
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        No one wants to hear this, but everyone who calls a form of music "crap" needs to grow up. Some music is simple, some is complex. Some is repetitive, some is progressive. Different kinds of music server different functions, and different listeners require varying levels of investment. That "my music is great, your music sucks" attitude should be left to high schoolers. It's just a cult mentality that people use to compensate for low self esteem, or fear of not fitting in. At the end of the day, all of us probably love some songs that "suck" and hate some songs that are "great". There is no consensus on the quality of music, and it's small minded to pretend to be a privy to one.

        Pink Floyd and Zepp rule, btw.
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        • Karlos05
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          • Mar 2003
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          #19
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          Everyone knows rock n' roll attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact.

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          • CaptainZombie
            Brains
            • Jul 2003
            • 37851

            #20
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            Originally posted by Scottd
            Just because I like Creed and Nickelback. Creed sure sold a hell of a lot of records. Also, I was always into bands like Metallica, I grew up with Kirk and I know Billie from Greenday. So maybe that is the reason I like them, I don't know I have been really liking Pink Floyd and I thought that would never happen.
            Originally posted by FallenAngel
            As I get older I find myself listening and enjoying the older stuff more and more. Lately been listening to some Chicago, Bob Seger, ZZ Top. Too much of today's music sounds the same even when going from band to band.
            I feel the same way about the older stuff from 70's and 80's, I listen to it much, much more these last few years than I did before. I like to use PK's example of gaming how it hasn't been his cup of tea anymore with consoles and I feel like today's music isn't anywhere near the same league as yesteryears music. I'll take that over some of the crap now which has no substance to it, which is disappointing.
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            • NYJets
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              • Jul 2002
              • 18637

              #21
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              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
              No one wants to hear this, but everyone who calls a form of music "crap" needs to grow up. Some music is simple, some is complex. Some is repetitive, some is progressive. Different kinds of music server different functions, and different listeners require varying levels of investment. That "my music is great, your music sucks" attitude should be left to high schoolers. It's just a cult mentality that people use to compensate for low self esteem, or fear of not fitting in. At the end of the day, all of us probably love some songs that "suck" and hate some songs that are "great". There is no consensus on the quality of music, and it's small minded to pretend to be a privy to one.

              Pink Floyd and Zepp rule, btw.
              You need to stop over analyzing this.

              I think Creed and Nickleback suck. I think they are terrible bands, with very little talent.

              That's my opinion, everyone else is entitled to their own opinion as well.
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              • Kearnzo
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 5963

                #22
                Re: Taste in music?

                Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                No one wants to hear this, but everyone who calls a form of music "crap" needs to grow up. Some music is simple, some is complex. Some is repetitive, some is progressive. Different kinds of music server different functions, and different listeners require varying levels of investment. That "my music is great, your music sucks" attitude should be left to high schoolers. It's just a cult mentality that people use to compensate for low self esteem, or fear of not fitting in. At the end of the day, all of us probably love some songs that "suck" and hate some songs that are "great". There is no consensus on the quality of music, and it's small minded to pretend to be a privy to one.

                Pink Floyd and Zepp rule, btw.
                While I certainly agree with your view of differing opinions, I think that is somewhat the problem. Bands like Nickelback know that with little to no effort or substance, they can put out similar records and the general public will eat it up, mainly because the general public doesn't care anymore about songs with good substance and content. People are too easily accepting of mediocre music, and that's where a lot of the bands end up popping up. They make one radio friendly, thoughtless single, people eat it up, then they put out a whole record all too similar to their single, and people purchase based on that single alone. And because of a lot of bands having good name recognition, they know they really don't have to try and put out good music, just simple, repetitive CD's.

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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52930

                  #23
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                  My favorite band now has been the same since I was 5 years old (I'm almost 20) -- Bad Religion

                  I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon.

                  My musical taste does not CHANGE, it just gets fine-tuned and added to as the years go by.

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                  • Bornindamecca
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                    • Jul 2007
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                    #24
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                    Originally posted by Kearnzo
                    While I certainly agree with your view of differing opinions, I think that is somewhat the problem. Bands like Nickelback know that with little to no effort or substance, they can put out similar records and the general public will eat it up, mainly because the general public doesn't care anymore about songs with good substance and content. People are too easily accepting of mediocre music, and that's where a lot of the bands end up popping up. They make one radio friendly, thoughtless single, people eat it up, then they put out a whole record all too similar to their single, and people purchase based on that single alone. And because of a lot of bands having good name recognition, they know they really don't have to try and put out good music, just simple, repetitive CD's.
                    See, here you're making my point for me. You just described a kind of listener. They don't invest a lot of time "intensely" listening to music, and the social benefits of listening to a popular band are more important than musical integrity. It's just a matter of whether or not you're fine with that. People who like more well thought out music tend to reject other people's reasons for listening to music, when the easier attitude to have is "whatever makes you happy". Share what you can, and dismiss what burns your ear. Here is a brief list of the functions of music. I make it so if anyone responds, they can take the responsibility of vetoing someone's personal reasons for enjoying something.

                    -dancing
                    -socializing
                    -musical growth
                    -background sounds for other activities
                    -catharsis
                    -empowerment
                    -propaganda
                    -narrative context
                    -sexual stimulation

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    You need to stop over analyzing this.

                    I think Creed and Nickleback suck. I think they are terrible bands, with very little talent.

                    That's my opinion, everyone else is entitled to their own opinion as well.
                    First and foremost, only a dullard fears analysis. Secondly, that contradicts what you're saying, because you have value-judged Nickleback, but in order to have integrity in your opinion, there has to be a value system with "sucks" at the bottom. Only analysis could apply such a value system to music, because inherently music is simply made up of tools with no intrinsic value of their own. So you deride analysis while using it.

                    Lastly, I challenge you to describe your musical value system to me. Define musical excellence according to you. Educate us.
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                    • NYJets
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #25
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                      Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                      First and foremost, only a dullard fears analysis. Secondly, that contradicts what you're saying, because you have value-judged Nickleback, but in order to have integrity in your opinion, there has to be a value system with "sucks" at the bottom. Only analysis could apply such a value system to music, because inherently music is simply made up of tools with no intrinsic value of their own. So you deride analysis while using it.

                      Lastly, I challenge you to describe your musical value system to me. Define musical excellence according to you. Educate us.


                      Don't know why I need to educate you. If you like Nickelback and Creed, your entitled to do that. I'm flattered that you feel my opinion on what's good music is that important and that everyone needs to know it to be educated, but really it's just my opinion.
                      Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                      The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #26
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                        When I listen to music I listen for a hook and Creed and Nickelback have these hooks in their songs for me. Creed is still one of my favorite bands and I do like Nickelback. I don't know how Nickelback sounds live, but Creed live was amazing. I have been to over 500 concerts in my life. I have seen all kinds and I mean all kinds and Creed was the best. MY second was the Stones and Deep Purple. Also, Acdc with Scott was right up there too.

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                        • Scottdau
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #27
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                          Originally posted by NYJets


                          Don't know why I need to educate you. If you like Nickelback and Creed, your entitled to do that. I'm flattered that you feel my opinion on what's good music is that important and that everyone needs to know it to be educated, but really it's just my opinion.
                          It is all good I think the music you listen to is crap, so we are even!

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                          • Bornindamecca
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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #28
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                            Originally posted by NYJets


                            Don't know why I need to educate you. If you like Nickelback and Creed, your entitled to do that. I'm flattered that you feel my opinion on what's good music is that important and that everyone needs to know it to be educated, but really it's just my opinion.
                            If you somehow devised a comprehensive value system for music all by yourself, that would be very educational indeed. It might be gibberish, but it would explain your ideology.


                            As for Creed and Nickleback, I'm not into their stuff. I play metal guitar, and I usually require much more intricate guitar lines than what they offer. I like Opeth, Dream Theater, Symphony X, BTBAM and Necrophagist. But see how what I like doesn't require me to take value away from what other people personally enjoy? Try it, it's fun!
                            Last edited by Bornindamecca; 12-09-2007, 03:43 PM.
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                            • Scottdau
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #29
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                              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                              Actually, I'm not into their stuff. I play metal guitar, and I usually require much more intricate guitar lines than what they offer. I like Opeth, Dream Theater, Symphony X, BTBAM and Necrophagist. But see how what I like doesn't require me to take value away from what other people personally enjoy? Try it, it's fun!

                              You must have not been to OS that much. That is the norm here!

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                              • Bornindamecca
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                                • Jul 2007
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                                #30
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                                Originally posted by Scottd
                                You must have not been to OS that much. That is the norm here!
                                True, but if man can't maintain the responsibility of reason, he may as well walk on all fours.
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