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  • Laettner32
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    • Jul 2002
    • 2873

    #61
    Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidius> Yoda??

    I was told that it was one of those "the falcon isn't working right, Han and crew need to get going ASAP 'cuz of Empirical trouble" so Chewie gets out of the Falcon to give it a quick repair and is killed right after he fixes the "flex capacitor". Han and his crew get away safely, Chewie is dead. Thats how I heard it. I'm sure I could look it up on the internets.

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    • marshallfever
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      • Aug 2003
      • 2738

      #62
      Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

      Watching the original ones, the series didn't take itself too serious like episodes 1-3. Theres a lot more humor. Watching episode 3, it was all intensive and serious. It lacked the charm the originals had. Yet probably because of its seriousness, i thought the prequels were quite interesting. But i have yet to finish watching The Empire Strikes back as well as The Return of the Jedi.

      Episodes 1-3 felt more epic and big. That could probably be due to the fact that Lucas had a ton and ton of money to throw at the series adding tons and tons of special effects.

      Theres one thing bothering me though. How was it that they were able to destroy the death star with just a couple of ships in the first one? The thing was the size of the moon and it took a couple of ships to take it down?? I missed a scene or two within that moment, but i doubt within 30 seconds they brought in a moon destroyer.

      It kind of blows my mind that the first one, A New Hope was so well received. There was nothing in it that was soo spectacular. It was good, however i thought the pace was too fast. He just found out his father was a Jedi and that hes one as well and he off to fight the Empire without any real reason, other then wanting to leave his farm life behind.

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      • Laettner32
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 2873

        #63
        Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

        Originally posted by marshallfever
        Watching the original ones, the series didn't take itself too serious like episodes 1-3. Theres a lot more humor. Watching episode 3, it was all intensive and serious. It lacked the charm the originals had. Yet probably because of its seriousness, i thought the prequels were quite interesting. But i have yet to finish watching The Empire Strikes back as well as The Return of the Jedi.

        Episodes 1-3 felt more epic and big. That could probably be due to the fact that Lucas had a ton and ton of money to throw at the series adding tons and tons of special effects.

        Theres one thing bothering me though. How was it that they were able to destroy the death star with just a couple of ships in the first one? The thing was the size of the moon and it took a couple of ships to take it down?? I missed a scene or two within that moment, but i doubt within 30 seconds they brought in a moon destroyer.

        It kind of blows my mind that the first one, A New Hope was so well received. There was nothing in it that was soo spectacular. It was good, however i thought the pace was too fast. He just found out his father was a Jedi and that hes one as well and he off to fight the Empire without any real reason, other then wanting to leave his farm life behind.
        A couple of points..The Rebellion stole plans regarding the Death Star that showed a weakness, a well placed shot into an exhaust port, could cause an explosion which would trigger a chain reaction destroying the station.

        Finally, depending how old you are why it was so well received. I was 7. And it was frickin' awesome. At the time, the special effects were state of the art. Kinda like how the Matrix was when it was released, but even moreso.

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        • jfsolo
          Live Action, please?
          • May 2003
          • 12965

          #64
          Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

          Originally posted by marshallfever
          Watching the original ones, the series didn't take itself too serious like episodes 1-3. Theres a lot more humor. Watching episode 3, it was all intensive and serious. It lacked the charm the originals had. Yet probably because of its seriousness, i thought the prequels were quite interesting. But i have yet to finish watching The Empire Strikes back as well as The Return of the Jedi.

          Episodes 1-3 felt more epic and big. That could probably be due to the fact that Lucas had a ton and ton of money to throw at the series adding tons and tons of special effects.

          Theres one thing bothering me though. How was it that they were able to destroy the death star with just a couple of ships in the first one? The thing was the size of the moon and it took a couple of ships to take it down?? I missed a scene or two within that moment, but i doubt within 30 seconds they brought in a moon destroyer.

          It kind of blows my mind that the first one, A New Hope was so well received. There was nothing in it that was soo spectacular. It was good, however i thought the pace was too fast. He just found out his father was a Jedi and that hes one as well and he off to fight the Empire without any real reason, other then wanting to leave his farm life behind.
          Analyzing the schematics of the Death Star, the Rebels were able to discern that it had a fundamental flaw in its design that made it vulnerable to a very specific kind of attack.

          As far as the fanfare received by A New Hope, you've got to remember that this was 1977. For those of us who were kids at that time, and even adults too, we had never seen anything like what that film brought to the table. It was beyond Epic, and then Empire showing the good guys getting a beat down, and not winning in the end. That was new territory in those day.
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          • marshallfever
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 2738

            #65
            Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

            You guys are right about its being ahead of its time. I figured that. Even watching it right now you can see they had some great specials effects. I know I'm watching the enchanced version, but all they did was remaster it. A lot of the scenes really do look ahead of its time. However I still feel as if New Hope played out too fast, but so far The Empire Strikes Back has a great pacing.

            Again though even though this has the charm it still lacks the seriousness found in the prequels. Han Solo all by himself gives the series so much laid backness. His character is pretty cool though.

            I can see why many didn't like the prequels. It does have a competely diifferent tone.

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            • Flyboy
              Daydream Believer
              • Jun 2003
              • 11352

              #66
              Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidius> Yoda??

              Originally posted by Laettner32
              I was told that it was one of those "the falcon isn't working right, Han and crew need to get going ASAP 'cuz of Empirical trouble" so Chewie gets out of the Falcon to give it a quick repair and is killed right after he fixes the "flex capacitor". Han and his crew get away safely, Chewie is dead. Thats how I heard it. I'm sure I could look it up on the internets.
              The 1999 novel Vector Prime by R. A. Salvatore (the first in the New Jedi Order series) marks Chewbacca's final appearance in the Star Wars universe. Chewbacca sacrifices his own life to save that of Han Solo's son Anakin from a collision between the planet Sernpidal and one of its moons. Afterward, the other core Star Wars characters are emotionally crushed by the loss, and Solo sinks into alcoholism and depression.
              The only reason I know that so well is because I actually read that entire novel. **** was heartbreaking.
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              • jdros13
                MVP
                • Oct 2004
                • 1255

                #67
                Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                Originally posted by marshallfever
                You guys are right about its being ahead of its time. I figured that. Even watching it right now you can see they had some great specials effects. I know I'm watching the enchanced version, but all they did was remaster it. A lot of the scenes really do look ahead of its time. However I still feel as if New Hope played out too fast, but so far The Empire Strikes Back has a great pacing.

                Again though even though this has the charm it still lacks the seriousness found in the prequels. Han Solo all by himself gives the series so much laid backness. His character is pretty cool though.

                I can see why many didn't like the prequels. It does have a competely diifferent tone.
                IMO the best part of the series is all of Empire Strikes Back and the first 30 minutes of Return of the Jedi. Empire Strikes Back is a phenomenal film on it's own, and it is painfully obvious that G. Lucas didn't direct it....it's that much better than the prequels.

                I did enjoy the prequels because I like the Star Wars mythology, but some of it was just painful to sit through...especially compared to ESB.
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                • marshallfever
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2738

                  #68
                  Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                  Originally posted by jdros13
                  IMO the best part of the series is all of Empire Strikes Back and the first 30 minutes of Return of the Jedi. Empire Strikes Back is a phenomenal film on it's own, and it is painfully obvious that G. Lucas didn't direct it....it's that much better than the prequels.

                  I did enjoy the prequels because I like the Star Wars mythology, but some of it was just painful to sit through...especially compared to ESB.
                  Whats wrong with The Return of The Jedi? Is not as great as The Empire Strikes Back? I found the Empire Strikes Back to be great. It had the action and it advanced the story in a good way. I would of hated having to wait another 3 years before concluding it though.

                  I keep hearing about the E-Hawks in ROFJ and how despicable they are. I hope their air time isn't enough to ruin the film. And when does the Princess find out shes related to Luke?

                  The 1999 novel Vector Prime by R. A. Salvatore (the first in the New Jedi Order series) marks Chewbacca's final appearance in the Star Wars universe. Chewbacca sacrifices his own life to save that of Han Solo's son Anakin from a collision between the planet Sernpidal and one of its moons. Afterward, the other core Star Wars characters are emotionally crushed by the loss, and Solo sinks into alcoholism and depression
                  I take it Han had a kid with the Princess...however why would they name the kid Anakin? As a remembrance of her real father?
                  Last edited by marshallfever; 04-12-2008, 10:04 PM.

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                  • Flyboy
                    Daydream Believer
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 11352

                    #69
                    Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                    Originally posted by marshallfever
                    I take it Han had a kid with the Princess...however why would they name the kid Anakin? As a remembrance of her real father?
                    Correct. They had twins and Anakin.
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                    • Sandman42
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 15186

                      #70
                      Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                      Originally posted by marshallfever
                      Whats wrong with The Return of The Jedi? Is not as great as The Empire Strikes Back? I found the Empire Strikes Back to be great. It had the action and it advanced the story in a good way. I would of hated having to wait another 3 years before concluding it though.

                      I keep hearing about the E-Hawks in ROFJ and how despicable they are. I hope their air time isn't enough to ruin the film. And when does the Princess find out shes related to Luke?
                      Just answered your own question right there. That's why the beginning of ROTJ is great, but after they save Han it falls off. Just seeing the Ewoks being able to lead to the demise of the Empire is ********. Especially some of the ridiculous ways the the Ewoks are able to kill the stormtroopers.
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                      • WazzuRC
                        Go Cougs!
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5617

                        #71
                        Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                        Han became a pansy in the Return of the Jedi.

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                        • catcatch22
                          Or should I
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3378

                          #72
                          Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                          Originally posted by Sandman42
                          Just answered your own question right there. That's why the beginning of ROTJ is great, but after they save Han it falls off. Just seeing the Ewoks being able to lead to the demise of the Empire is ********. Especially some of the ridiculous ways the the Ewoks are able to kill the stormtroopers.
                          I don't think the ewoks were that bad, then again I was real young during the last movie and actually liked the ewoks. Originally I read that the ewoks were supposed to be wookies but they could not do it because of financial and physical reasons I think.

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                          • SportsTop
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6716

                            #73
                            Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                            Originally posted by Sandman42
                            Just answered your own question right there. That's why the beginning of ROTJ is great, but after they save Han it falls off. Just seeing the Ewoks being able to lead to the demise of the Empire is ********. Especially some of the ridiculous ways the the Ewoks are able to kill the stormtroopers.
                            Originally posted by catcatch22
                            I don't think the ewoks were that bad, then again I was real young during the last movie and actually liked the ewoks. Originally I read that the ewoks were supposed to be wookies but they could not do it because of financial and physical reasons I think.
                            The Ewoks are what killed ROTJ for me too. You have to remember that the Stormtroopers were all clones of Jango Fett and were supposed to be bad ***. I don't see how Lucas wants us to believe that a bunch of semi-intelligent tribal creatures are supposed to wipe out an entire regiment of the Empire's elite soldiers.
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                            • The C
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                              • Apr 2005
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                              #74
                              Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                              Originally posted by Squint
                              The Ewoks are what killed ROTJ for me too. You have to remember that the Stormtroopers were all clones of Jango Fett and were supposed to be bad ***. I don't see how Lucas wants us to believe that a bunch of semi-intelligent tribal creatures are supposed to wipe out an entire regiment of the Empire's elite soldiers.
                              They weren't all clones anymore. There were regular people mixed into the units. At least that is what was said in Star Wars Battlefront 2. They said something like many of the clone squads were killed in various missions that the empire started to fill the gaps with recruits.

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                              • Laettner32
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #75
                                Re: Master Windu> Darth Sidious> Yoda??

                                Man, I remember waiting in line for like 2 hours to get in to ESB! I was like 9 or something. When I saw the AT-AT's...I freakin' drooled! And the snowspeeders! Finally, I couldn't believe Han got frozen, but when Luke met Darth, it was like Battle of the Network Stars on HGH! The prequels were what they were, but the original trilogy really was a large part of my pre-adolescent life. As far as ROTJ, I could handle the ewoks, but that frickin' "yub-yub" song, and Lando getting his freak on to it at the end of the movie...I'll pass.

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