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  • Tiko7523
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    • Aug 2009
    • 1595

    #556
    Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

    The Wall Street Journal is reporting that BlackBerry maker Research In Motion sold right around 150,000 Torch handsets during its opening weekend. The sales estimates come courtesy of RBC Capital Markets and Stifel Nicolaus. Curiously, the launch numbers keep being compared to the first weekend sales figures of the iPhone 4; which launched on June 24th of this year in five countries and on multiple carriers. The WSJ also calls into question the*profitability*of the handset for RIM. Research firm iSuppli pegged the cost of the slider’s components at right around $171 — with an additional $12 for*manufacturing — bringing the total to $183. The LCD and Samsung flash-memory are the unit’s two most expensive parts and cost approximately $35 each. As a point of*comparison, iSuppli estimates Apple’s iPhone 4 at $188 and the HTC DROID Incredible at $165. When compared component for component, the Torch’s part costs do seem a little steep. Again, the numbers are all speculative… but 150,000 seems to be an acceptable result for an opening weekend release on one carrier, no? What do you think?
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    • mgoblue
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      • Jul 2002
      • 25477

      #557
      Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

      Originally posted by Tiko7523
      The Wall Street Journal is reporting that BlackBerry maker Research In Motion sold right around 150,000 Torch handsets during its opening weekend. The sales estimates come courtesy of RBC Capital Markets and Stifel Nicolaus. Curiously, the launch numbers keep being compared to the first weekend sales figures of the iPhone 4; which launched on June 24th of this year in five countries and on multiple carriers. The WSJ also calls into question the*profitability*of the handset for RIM. Research firm iSuppli pegged the cost of the slider’s components at right around $171 — with an additional $12 for*manufacturing — bringing the total to $183. The LCD and Samsung flash-memory are the unit’s two most expensive parts and cost approximately $35 each. As a point of*comparison, iSuppli estimates Apple’s iPhone 4 at $188 and the HTC DROID Incredible at $165. When compared component for component, the Torch’s part costs do seem a little steep. Again, the numbers are all speculative… but 150,000 seems to be an acceptable result for an opening weekend release on one carrier, no? What do you think?
      Eh, I see it more as proof that Blackberry is no longer the top dog. People sticking with them will be more of the enterprise type who get one for their jobs. Most non business users I've known have long since moved to Android or iPhone.

      From what I've read of the new Blackberry OS it's a good update, but not something that's really gonna compete with Android or iOS. RIM is on a downswing and I don't see it ending anytime soon. Blackberries are no longer cool or hip like they once were. They dropped the ball and are now paying for it, similar to Sony with the PS2 going to PS3.
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      • Pared
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        • Feb 2003
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        #558
        Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

        You mean my blackberry will go the way of my Nextel DC?

        This is a sad day.
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        • mgoblue
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          • Jul 2002
          • 25477

          #559
          Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

          Originally posted by Pared
          You mean my blackberry will go the way of my Nextel DC?

          This is a sad day.
          Everything I've read is that the new BB OS and Torch are great if you need a Blackberry, but not better than the other smartphone offerings now...OS6 wasn't the cure all from the reviews I read.

          I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't buy RIM stock anytime soon lol
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          • SoMiss2000
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            • Oct 2002
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            #560
            Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

            The torch was supposed to ne their "next gen" blackberry showcasing their new OS and they handicapped it by using outdated hardware. If their focus is to grow the consumer base, it was not a very good effort. In this day of "look at what my phone can do" email and bbm isn't cutting it.
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            • Tiko7523
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              • Aug 2009
              • 1595

              #561
              Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

              Originally posted by SoMiss2000
              The torch was supposed to ne their "next gen" blackberry showcasing their new OS and they handicapped it by using outdated hardware. If their focus is to grow the consumer base, it was not a very good effort. In this day of "look at what my phone can do" email and bbm isn't cutting it.
              its a good phone its just not ground breaking imagine if it had better internals like a nice resolution screen , with faster internals it would be sweet.

              Rimm wont go the way nextel will cuz its really good for business and i am sure they will do something to catch up they have 2 pretty good ceo's
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              • Thrasha
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                • Nov 2004
                • 3374

                #562
                Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                Originally posted by Tiko7523
                its a good phone its just not ground breaking imagine if it had better internals like a nice resolution screen , with faster internals it would be sweet.

                Rimm wont go the way nextel will cuz its really good for business and i am sure they will do something to catch up they have 2 pretty good ceo's

                With where the mobile industry is at, you can't really justify RIM NOT coming out with killer hardware. Granted you might not need a 1ghz processor to run the blackberry OS, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

                Like MGO said, I see Blackberry's going to the way of enterprise users. Like Windows Mobile is now. For a select group of business users Blackberry will be a great platform, especially an older crowd that doesn't really want to adapt to a touchscreen keyboard.


                Right now, RIM has a OS that developers don't like developing for and don't appear to have the money to throw around at developers to entice them to develop for their platform like Microsoft is doing with WinMo7.
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                • mgoblue
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #563
                  Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                  Originally posted by Thrasha
                  With where the mobile industry is at, you can't really justify RIM NOT coming out with killer hardware. Granted you might not need a 1ghz processor to run the blackberry OS, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

                  Like MGO said, I see Blackberry's going to the way of enterprise users. Like Windows Mobile is now. For a select group of business users Blackberry will be a great platform, especially an older crowd that doesn't really want to adapt to a touchscreen keyboard.


                  Right now, RIM has a OS that developers don't like developing for and don't appear to have the money to throw around at developers to entice them to develop for their platform like Microsoft is doing with WinMo7.
                  Yeah, they've still got a stranglehold on the enterprise market, but it's not a fun phone normal people would will want to buy...Even then I have seen a few people at my company begging for iPhones, and since the company contract is up with Sprint soon they're investigating if it's worth switching to some other company.

                  It will really be interesting to see how RIM reacts to the sales of the Torch, they can't be overly excited. I won't count them out because they've got some great business minds, but we'll see.
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                  • TheTruth916
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 5991

                    #564
                    Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                    I just got the BB Torch, I am liking it but i was wondering if there is any sites or what do i go to download themes, wallpapers and such. Thanks
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                    • HotSauce2k3
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 1848

                      #565
                      Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                      Originally posted by TheTruth916
                      I just got the BB Torch, I am liking it but i was wondering if there is any sites or what do i go to download themes, wallpapers and such. Thanks
                      Google is your best bet for free themes, apps, etc. I don't think there will be many themes out right now for the Torch though.

                      Crackberry is good for info, but when it comes to downloadable stuff, everything featured on CB costs money.

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                      • SoMiss2000
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 20499

                        #566
                        Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                        Originally posted by HotSauce2k3
                        Google is your best bet for free themes, apps, etc. I don't think there will be many themes out right now for the Torch though.

                        Crackberry is good for info, but when it comes to downloadable stuff, everything featured on CB costs money.
                        not true, there are tons of free themes on Crackberry. Just visit the Themes forum.
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                        • HotSauce2k3
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 1848

                          #567
                          Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                          Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                          not true, there are tons of free themes on Crackberry. Just visit the Themes forum.
                          I should've clarified. CB does feature free things, but when you download them, you realize why they are free.

                          Other sites offer better content for free.

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                          • SoMiss2000
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 20499

                            #568
                            Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                            Originally posted by HotSauce2k3
                            I should've clarified. CB does feature free things, but when you download them, you realize why they are free.

                            Other sites offer better content for free.
                            there are tons of theme makers who make great free themes at Crackberry.
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                            • ASB37
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2624

                              #569
                              Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                              Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                              there are tons of theme makers who make great free themes at Crackberry.
                              Yeah I've been using my same theme on my curve 2 for months now, and I got it for free off the themes forum on crackberry.
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #570
                                Re: The Official BlackBerry Thread

                                What I wanna know is how in the world does this Phone not have a case out for it yet? WTF
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