Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
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SpoilerHis name is Aslan.Just wanted to help you out there. And I haven't seen the movie but having read the books it would seem likely that you won't see the older kids in the next few movies (assuming they do all 7 books). The Voyage of the Dawn Treader only has Edmund and Lucy along with a new family member - a very annoying brat, by the way.
It's been a while since I read the books but I don't think you see the elders again until the last book. Well, let me rephrase that. You definitely don't see them in the previous books. I just don't remember them in the last book. But I'm sure they are there because there's always been a bit of controversy with how the Susan character was portrayed in the Final Battle. I just don't remember her well. I need to reread that final book again.
It shouldn't end in a trilogy, though it could be done that way if they wanted to only focus on the four children. The other books begin to focus on new characters and new issues.
I think a slow pace will haunt this series much like it haunted the LOTR movies (which I still loved). The books are very slow and tell a lot of story. I don't think there's a way they could speed it up without sacrificing what makes the Chronicles of Narnia such an interesting piece of literature.
SpoilerSusan does not appear in the last Battle, but all four of them appear in The Horse and his Boy, which is set during the time they were still the Kings and Queens of Narnia. But Prince Caspian marked Susan's last journey there chronologically. Lol, and if you guys found the story in this movie dark, read that book and think on Susan's fate. Won't spoil further.PS: You guys are great.
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Would any of you recommend this to someone who didn't see the first one? I work at a movie theatre and I've seen short bits of it and it looks interesting.Villanova Class of 2012
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SpoilerSusan does not appear in the last Battle, but all four of them appear in The Horse and his Boy, which is set during the time they were still the Kings and Queens of Narnia. But Prince Caspian marked Susan's last journey there chronologically. Lol, and if you guys found the story in this movie dark, read that book and think on Susan's fate. Won't spoil further.SpoilerAh, yes I forgot about them appearing in The Horse and his Boy. They weren't a focal point of the story but they were ruling at the time and it slipped my mind.
Glad to know I wasn't going crazy over Susan being in The Final Battle. I thought I read someone saying something about her portrayal in that book and it confused me because as I said, I didn't remember her in it.
I went back to find out what happens to Susan and ha, I totally forgot about the reasons she isn't invited into Narnia anymore. When you look at the story as a whole I think it makes sense but I can totally understand why readers were upset about it. Why they even considered it a bit sexist. Ha.
Last edited by CMH; 05-22-2008, 11:42 AM."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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I finally got to see this and I really liked it. Peter was really annoying for 2/3's of the movie.Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Finally saw this as well and the Peter bit is exactly what I expected someone to bring up in this thread.
I enjoyed the film, but I agree that actually seeing kids beat up adults seems rather silly (even with the talking Badgers, fighting mice, and moving trees). It's much easier to imagine it while reading it in a book.
Also, I have to say that this movie must have been true enough to the books because I watched countless scenes that I felt I had seen before, though, I had never seen the movie."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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SpoilerAh, yes I forgot about them appearing in The Horse and his Boy. They weren't a focal point of the story but they were ruling at the time and it slipped my mind.
Glad to know I wasn't going crazy over Susan being in The Final Battle. I thought I read someone saying something about her portrayal in that book and it confused me because as I said, I didn't remember her in it.
I went back to find out what happens to Susan and ha, I totally forgot about the reasons she isn't invited into Narnia anymore. When you look at the story as a whole I think it makes sense but I can totally understand why readers were upset about it. Why they even considered it a bit sexist. Ha.
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SpoilerIt was mentioned in Prince Caspian. Both Susan and Peter were getting too old for Narnia. Susan was specifically singled out in the books for her new preference for things like make-up.
In The Last Battle, Susan is conspicuous by her absence. Peter says that she is "no longer a friend of Narnia", and (in Jill Pole's words) "she's interested in nothing now-a-days except nylons and lipstick and invitations." Similarly, Eustace Scrubb reports that she says, "What wonderful memories you have! Fancy you still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children," and Polly Plummer adds, "She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and she'll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of one's life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can." Thus, Susan does not enter the real Narnia with the others at the end of the series.."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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SpoilerIt was mentioned in Prince Caspian. Both Susan and Peter were getting too old for Narnia. Susan was specifically singled out in the books for her new preference for things like make-up.
In The Last Battle, Susan is conspicuous by her absence. Peter says that she is "no longer a friend of Narnia", and (in Jill Pole's words) "she's interested in nothing now-a-days except nylons and lipstick and invitations." Similarly, Eustace Scrubb reports that she says, "What wonderful memories you have! Fancy you still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children," and Polly Plummer adds, "She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and she'll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of one's life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can." Thus, Susan does not enter the real Narnia with the others at the end of the series..
SpoilerI do like to think though that because of what happened at the train station that it got Susan to believe again and she eventually found her way to Narnia. At the same time, it does add a touch of realism because you know everyone isn't going to go.PS: You guys are great.
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SpoilerYes, the train station scene does make you wonder and C.S. Lewis has hinted at the possibility, though, with a bit of his humor.
"The books don't tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But there's plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan's country in the end... in her own way.""It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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Ah thanks for that. I never read that quote and it makes me feel better.PS: You guys are great.
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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