Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

[DTX3]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

I'm not saying 50 was THE guy responsible for MAKING Game. Sure with Dre he probably becomes MORE known out West than he already is, but without 50, the only game we know about out East is the Hip Hop Game itself.

This is your exact quote...

I agree about The Game. Without 50, that boy probably still at the Compton Swap Meet sellin his mixtapes and Black Wall Street is never even heard of this side of the Mississsippi.

If it wasnt for DRE, 50 wouldn't know who the hell Game was...you're just giving him too much credit for Game getting into the mainstream which in reality, he didnt have as much to do with Game getting into it.

Because the hooks were fiyah and were a main reason his songs were successful. That and Dre's production. Not so much The Game himself.

That has nothing to do how Game got into G-Unit.

[DTX3]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

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50 just stole that track from Game.

All three dudes BEASTED on this track, one of my top favs from Game.

[Streets]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

Because the hooks were fiyah and were a main reason his songs were successful. That and Dre's production. Not so much The Game himself.

Fly, you're my man and everything, but if that's really true, how come with No Dre, no 50, no Eminem, no G-Unit, no Aftermath, Game still pushed units (Doctor's Advocate debuted at number one, was platinum in the U.S., and triple platinum world wide). If it was just 50's hooks and Dre's beats that made the Game, then taking them away means that Game goes double wood, right? Yet, you take them away, and he still made a great album and sold units. Makes no sense. Randy or Fly explain it to me.

[Flyboy]

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Fly, you're my man and everything, but if that's really true, how come with No Dre, no 50, no Eminem, no G-Unit, no Aftermath, Game still pushed units (Doctor's Advocate debuted at number one, was platinum in the U.S., and triple platinum world wide). If it was just 50's hooks and Dre's beats that made the Game, then taking them away means that Game goes double wood, right? Yet, you take them away, and he still made a great album and sold units. Makes no sense. Randy or Fly explain it to me.

My response was dealing with how he got into the mainstream and became known & successful.

[RandyMoss84]

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Fly, you're my man and everything, but if that's really true, how come with No Dre, no 50, no Eminem, no G-Unit, no Aftermath, Game still pushed units (Doctor's Advocate debuted at number one, was platinum in the U.S., and triple platinum world wide). If it was just 50's hooks and Dre's beats that made the Game, then taking them away means that Game goes double wood, right? Yet, you take them away, and he still made a great album and sold units. Makes no sense. Randy or Fly explain it to me.

i believe whats hes sayin is that if it wasnt for 50 n Dre you wouldn't even know anything bout that unloyal idiot "The Game"

sure hes great on How We do and all them but thats after Dre n 50 taught him how to make a hit record. 50 wrote his damn hooks for gods sake. Every time Game sells a record 50 gets money out of that so keep on selling those records game make 50s pockets fatter. He can sell records because of what g-unit did for him

whoever was talking about that stupid "stop snitchin stop lying" dvd, yes i saw it and its a joke you could make a dvd about anything its all the perspective you take when making it, 50 could put out a little dvd easily but doesnt have to. the game contradicts himself so much its not even funny, sure he tries to act like a "gangster outta compton" but was on change of heart when he was younger. you think this "tough gangster" took time out of his selling drugs and the grind to go and apply to be on a dating show?

funny how game and young buck was ripping on each other earlier disrespecting each other to a point where you wouldnt even think they would even talk to each other and now they are going to start making mixtapes together? sweet guys you both got kicked out of g-unit have fun. hip hops a lonely game, the game was talking suicide thoughts earlier so that shows you how his life is after g-unit

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[Cebby]

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If it wasnt for DRE, 50 wouldn't know who the hell Game was...you're just giving him too much credit for Game getting into the mainstream which in reality, he didnt have as much to do with Game getting into it.

50 knowing who Game is is completely irrelevant.

50 had 2 hit songs, Hate it or Love it and How We Do. Now, he could have put those on The Massacre or he could have given them to one of his people in G-Unit. Game happened to be the one lucky enough to have not released an album yet. The songs would have been just as successful with Buck or Banks doing Game's parts. 50 had absolutely everything to do with the success of Game.

With minimal hype, he had his first 2 singles reach #4 and #2.

With a ton of hype, his next 5 singles got to 32, not charting, 71, 46, and 64.

Now, I'll give you 2 guesses about the difference between group 1 and group 2.

Fly, you're my man and everything, but if that's really true, how come with No Dre, no 50, no Eminem, no G-Unit, no Aftermath, Game still pushed units (Doctor's Advocate debuted at number one, was platinum in the U.S., and triple platinum world wide). If it was just 50's hooks and Dre's beats that made the Game, then taking them away means that Game goes double wood, right? Yet, you take them away, and he still made a great album and sold units. Makes no sense. Randy or Fly explain it to me.

Because the people who heard The Documentary realized that Game was a pretty damn good rapper, and then he got to feast off his beef with 50.

There's no way that you can ignore 50's effect on Game selling a ton of albums. TD should have gone double wood, as it had exactly 0 songs that were close to being a hit, but hyped allowed it to almost go platinum. He kept himself eating from 2005-2006 by dissing 50 Cent to keep himself relevant. If Game never had the initial exposure by 50, he's like every other rapper waiting to release an album on Aftermath. He can't write a hit song to save his life.

[DTX3]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

i believe whats hes sayin is that if it wasnt for 50 n Dre you wouldn't even know anything bout that unloyal idiot "The Game"

sure hes great on How We do and all them but thats after Dre n 50 taught him how to make a hit record. 50 wrote his damn hooks for gods sake. Every time Game sells a record 50 gets money out of that so keep on selling those records game make 50s pockets fatter. He can sell records because of what g-unit did for him

whoever was talking about that stupid "stop snitchin stop lying" dvd, yes i saw it and its a joke you could make a dvd about anything its all the perspective you take when making it, 50 could put out a little dvd easily but doesnt have to. the game contradicts himself so much its not even funny, sure he tries to act like a "gangster outta compton" but was on change of heart when he was younger. you think this "tough gangster" took time out of his selling drugs and the grind to go and apply to be on a dating show?

funny how game and young buck was ripping on each other earlier disrespecting each other to a point where you wouldnt even think they would even talk to each other and now they are going to start making mixtapes together? sweet guys you both got kicked out of g-unit have fun. hip hops a lonely game, the game was talking suicide thoughts earlier so that shows you how his life is after g-unit

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Dude, just chill. We all know your mancrush for 50 is the greatest. Also, i guess people forget that 50 made a name for himself by dissing dudes like Ja Rule who happen to be big back then.

[DTX3]

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Speakin' of Game, anyone hear his new single that came out yesterday with Travis Barker? pretty sick track.

"Tell Dr. Dre to pick up a phone/before I climb through his window like n-gga I'm home!".

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[Flyboy]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

Speakin' of Game, anyone hear his new single that came out yesterday with Travis Barker? pretty sick track.

I liked it but JESUS CHRIST was that hook horrible.

Easily the best Game track imo is this, though.

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[DTX3]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

Yeah the hook was half assed, Travis killed it on the drums. That track with Nas was awesome, but my fav from D.A. are Compton and Bang, DPG killed it.

[RandyMoss84]

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that new game song is well bell average in my opinon typical game rhymes nothing new but whatever my favorite was "B****es can't say no to me I'm like a wedding ring" or something like that ha

heres some of 50s newer songs lot better than that game song T.O.S. has leaked too by the way good album but yayo ruins it on a lot of songs

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[Rocky]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

50 knowing who Game is is completely irrelevant.

50 had 2 hit songs, Hate it or Love it and How We Do. Now, he could have put those on The Massacre or he could have given them to one of his people in G-Unit. Game happened to be the one lucky enough to have not released an album yet. The songs would have been just as successful with Buck or Banks doing Game's parts. 50 had absolutely everything to do with the success of Game.

With minimal hype, he had his first 2 singles reach #4 and #2.

With a ton of hype, his next 5 singles got to 32, not charting, 71, 46, and 64.

Now, I'll give you 2 guesses about the difference between group 1 and group 2.



Because the people who heard The Documentary realized that Game was a pretty damn good rapper, and then he got to feast off his beef with 50.

There's no way that you can ignore 50's effect on Game selling a ton of albums. TD should have gone double wood, as it had exactly 0 songs that were close to being a hit, but hyped allowed it to almost go platinum. He kept himself eating from 2005-2006 by dissing 50 Cent to keep himself relevant. If Game never had the initial exposure by 50, he's like every other rapper waiting to release an album on Aftermath. He can't write a hit song to save his life.

50 was just another underground rapper before he got with Interscope and started dissing Ja-Rule. Snoop Dogg could've never gotten exposure if it wasn't for Dr. Dre. It isn't like this is an uncommon occurance.

[Cebby]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

Snoop Dogg could've never gotten exposure if it wasn't for Dr. Dre. It isn't like this is an uncommon occurance.

I see some major differences between Snoop and Game. First, didn't Snoop write most of The Chronic? Second, Snoop has several top 10 hit songs that don't feature Dre. While Dre's production was key, Snoop was more of a draw rap wise on the singles as Dre was. You can't put another rapper on those songs and still have a hit. You can with 50's songs. Then, most importantly, Snoop didn't spend the last several years dissing Dr Dre.

Game could have certainly gotten exposure eventually, but he can't write a single for ****. It's impossible to deny that the vast majority of Game's popularity is due to How We Do/Hate it or Love it and then his subsequent 50 bashing.

Of 50's major songs, I don't think any feature another person aside from 21 Questions and Candy Shop, though Candy Shop easily could have been solo. 50 and Snoop were helped by hooking up with Dre. Game needed to hook up with 50 to become mainstream.

[inkcil]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

i believe whats hes sayin is that if it wasnt for 50 n Dre you wouldn't even know anything bout that unloyal idiot "The Game"

sure hes great on How We do and all them but thats after Dre n 50 taught him how to make a hit record. 50 wrote his damn hooks for gods sake. Every time Game sells a record 50 gets money out of that so keep on selling those records game make 50s pockets fatter. He can sell records because of what g-unit did for him

whoever was talking about that stupid "stop snitchin stop lying" dvd, yes i saw it and its a joke you could make a dvd about anything its all the perspective you take when making it, 50 could put out a little dvd easily but doesnt have to. the game contradicts himself so much its not even funny, sure he tries to act like a "gangster outta compton" but was on change of heart when he was younger. you think this "tough gangster" took time out of his selling drugs and the grind to go and apply to be on a dating show?

funny how game and young buck was ripping on each other earlier disrespecting each other to a point where you wouldnt even think they would even talk to each other and now they are going to start making mixtapes together? sweet guys you both got kicked out of g-unit have fun. hip hops a lonely game, the game was talking suicide thoughts earlier so that shows you how his life is after g-unit

game gets exposed
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Well, here's my little Game "story" for what it's worth:

A guy I grew up w/ in East Oakland claims to know Game quite well, and somehow they had a dispute a few years back. This guy I know is pretty rough (in fact we were real good friends up until junior high when he decided to grind full time) but tries to "produce" local artists in a little studio he put together. A few years back when I was visiting back home, I ran into this guy and he asked me real coyly if I liked Game and my response was like, "sure, why not." Then this guy went on a tirade about how Game was a punk and how Game got ran out of his neighborhood in the LA area by a certain "gang." He then went on to tell me that Game came up to Oakland and tried to get in with the Luniz (a few years back) but was basically rejected. He talked about Game dying his hair blond, going on model shoots for magazines and basically trying anything he could to get famous. Of course I had no idea (or really cared) about of all that stuff but this "old friend" of mine really got his jollies off suckering me into this "do you like Game" question and then telling me what a punk the dude was. He had me listen to this Luniz CD where they clowning Game and ev'thing. He seemed pretty bitter so I took his multiple anti-game stories with a grain of salt but after that I never really looked at Game the same.

In the end, I'm not a gangsta so I really am not mad at the Game if he dyed his hair or whatever. But I can see how guys from the streets can be mad at him (especially if he burned them). Still, I don't know how easy it is to go around claiming "certain gangs" and get away w/ it if u are not really from that gang. Maybe it's real easy. I dunno, gang/street life in Oakland is a lot different from SoCal. Our's is more like what you see on The Wire. There are no "colors" in Oakland.

[DTX3]

Re: Young Buck vs G-Unit

That Game diss video by Yukmouth was hilarious.