Heroes Season 3

[SpacemanSpiff]

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lol about the blood thing, IMO there going as if Season 2 never happen. Think about it. Nearly every new character from season 2 is dead. They never mention any of the things from season 2 so to me it's as if it never happen.

Lol, but you can't do that. I agree that's probably what they're trying to do but that really takes away from the whole Heroes mythos to blatantly contradict prior events or ignore important events.

[rudyjuly2]

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That was poop. You could drive a truck through those plot holes.

Eloquently put lol. I liked the finale right up until they decided to turn Sylar into Nathan. That's two finales in a row where they have a cliffhanger type ending and solve it with some really questionable writing to get from point A to B. Hiro was stuck in time 16 years ago? No problem - we'll have Daphne run back through time to get him. Nathan is dead? Nope - we'll turn Sylar into him. It's better than the constant time travel to correct things but it's still too much for my tastes.

The show is so open ended now that anything can happen and I think that has hurt the show. The first season wasn't like that. Characters weren't that powerful and I liked the boundaries and limits of that season. Now it seems they can create any ability either through evolution or an experiment to do what they want. It's as though the Show has gone from being Spiderman, a cool and powerful hero but with definite and necessary limitations, to Superman where anything is possible but also makes it more boring.

[CaptainZombie]

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Eloquently put lol. I liked the finale right up until they decided to turn Sylar into Nathan. That's two finales in a row where they have a cliffhanger type ending and solve it with some really questionable writing to get from point A to B. Hiro was stuck in time 16 years ago? No problem - we'll have Daphne run back through time to get him. Nathan is dead? Nope - we'll turn Sylar into him. It's better than the constant time travel to correct things but it's still too much for my tastes.

The show is so open ended now that anything can happen and I think that has hurt the show. The first season wasn't like that. Characters weren't that powerful and I liked the boundaries and limits of that season. Now it seems they can create any ability either through evolution or an experiment to do what they want. It's as though the Show has gone from being Spiderman, a cool and powerful hero but with definite and necessary limitations, to Superman where anything is possible but also makes it more boring.

you said it right there Rudy. This show has really lost its identity and I was bored pretty much the entire season. This finale was good, but all this crap they continue to do I doubt I'll be watching S4.

[Streets]

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Finally got around to watching it. My impressions...

I agree the "limitless" powers thing is a bit boring (though I like super-powered villains).

This is why Daredevil (a character with serious limitations) has always been my favorite hero. Also a huge fan of Iron Man (another flawed character).

For this reason, I like that they are trying to make Hiro less powerful by limiting what he can do. It also throws a monkey-wrench in the Hiro-Ando dyad which I have found entertaining.

By the way, does Ando still have the ability to supercharge other people's abilities. If so, why doesn't he just supercharge Hiro's so it takes less effort to stop time. Or are we going to ignore that that is his real power, and does he now just shoot lightning.

Parkman is taking Hiro's place as the way too powerful character though.

I didn't know there was supposed to be a death in the finale, and my heart dropped when Nathan (one of my top 3 favorite characters with Sylar and Noah) was dropped.

The Niki ending was cool.

Peter is still a wildcard as far as what his abilities are and what he can and can't do, which is fine. They'll clarify it next season. I think Pete sticking Sylar as the president was my favorite part of the episode.

Finally, the big finale (Sylar into Nathan) sucked. I'm sorry, but there are a million better solutions than this. For one, Peter the shapeshifter could have been Nathan for awhile, had a nervous breakdown, and resigned from politics.

Or, Peter the shapeshifter/healer could have faked his own death in a way tha thas nothing to do with people with abilities: assassination, car/plane crash, suicide, etc.

There are a billion ways this could have went, those are just some suggestions off the top. I understand that the writers have to keep Sylar on the show, but it makes the characters look dumb as that is the only idea they could come up with (Let's turn Sylar into Nathan!).

That said, I did like the part where we saw traces of Sylar in Nathan 2.0. Overall, there were both good and bad parts, but that last part really soured me on the finale.

[Beantown]

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Finally, the big finale (Sylar into Nathan) sucked. I'm sorry, but there are a million better solutions than this. For one, Peter the shapeshifter could have been Nathan for awhile, had a nervous breakdown, and resigned from politics.

Or, Peter the shapeshifter/healer could have faked his own death in a way tha thas nothing to do with people with abilities: assassination, car/plane crash, suicide, etc.

Pretty sure, and this is just my impression/opinion, they want to keep Peter as Peter so he and HRG can head the new Company. One of us (HRG) and one of them (Peter).

[TheLetterZ]

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Do Peter and Claire know that Nathan died?

[Beantown]

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As I said to you in IM...

I don't think so.

[rudyjuly2]

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By the way, does Ando still have the ability to supercharge other people's abilities. If so, why doesn't he just supercharge Hiro's so it takes less effort to stop time. Or are we going to ignore that that is his real power, and does he now just shoot lightning.

Parkman is taking Hiro's place as the way too powerful character though.

I thought the same thing. Why didn't Ando just super charge him?

Parkman is one of my favourite characters. Hopefully Peter gets a better story next time.

[soltrain]

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They've really turned Peter into a not important character, but hopefully that changes next season. It's hard to see what next season will "be" about.


Also - when the hell did Sylar learn to fly?

[Coug00]

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Also - when the hell did Sylar learn to fly?

S1. He uses his telekinesis to fly.

[Beantown]

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They've really turned Peter into a not important character, but hopefully that changes next season. It's hard to see what next season will "be" about.


Also - when the hell did Sylar learn to fly?

According to the HeroesWiki, he gained the power in the finale so you have to assume that the writers just wanted you to assume that he absorbed Nathan's power without killing him off-screen at one point, probably when he was knocked out.

[Coug00]

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According to the HeroesWiki, he gained the power in the finale so you have to assume that the writers just wanted you to assume that he absorbed Nathan's power without killing him off-screen at one point, probably when he was knocked out.

He did it long before the finale though. He flew away in season 1 when Parkman was shooting at him in the alley.

[Beantown]

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He did it long before the finale though. He flew away in season 1 when Parkman was shooting at him in the alley.

Yeah, that magical escape is still one of the many questions that we'll never have an answer to.

[TheLetterZ]

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Didn't he fly up to that rooftop after he got out of Danko's car this season?

[SpacemanSpiff]

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Do Peter and Claire know that Nathan died?

No they don't. It still blows my mind how one of the most smart and resourceful people on the show (Noah) doesn't think to use Claire's blood to bring Nathan back to life especially since he was the one brought back to life. You can't just ignore a whole season of your show even if the writing was terrible and out of hand for that period. At least try to justify it with a cancel out event, don't just ignore it and hope people don't notice.

Also Noah would've probably done the logical thing and said that they should let Peter in on Nathan's death and have him impersonate Nathan long enough for them to fake his death as Nathan so "people with abilities" didn't get implicated. Completely out of character, IMO.