The Dark Knight Rises

[Blzer]

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^ That's why I normally first type it all out in Microsoft Word. I didn't do it this last time, but I did a lot of Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C during paragraphs to make sure I didn't mess up. That sucks man, I would have almost not been motivated to re-write all of that.

By the way, you're starting to become a little bit like me. Your impressions has 2,320 words, and mine at 2,477 (not including the trailer P.S.). Better be careful there.

Great write-up, by the way. I agree with most of what you said, but maybe I don't regard some of the glaring issues as much as you do to be the main highlighted problems with the film. You'll see me state some of mine in my post, mostly having to do with story structure and not so much single-component instances.

As for one of your complaints...

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I thought it was okay how they killed Bane, but it took me about ten minutes to realize that Bane had actually even died. They didn't ever cut to him again, even as a corpse, to remind you that, "Oh yeah, his story arc is over." I'm not saying we needed confirmation that he died from the blast, as that should be obvious, but you don't just make him fly backwards and not mention the name ever again, especially as high and mighty as he got in the story.

I did kind of like how he died, though. Not every major villain needs to go out in the most outlandish of ways, and it proves that he's still human. It was awesome, too. I almost thought Batman was shot when it happened.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I'm surprised you liked Act 3, honestly. Outside of TDK, that has been one of Nolan's weaknesses to me. It isn't so much the action itself as the logic inconsistencies with the rest of the film. In Batman Begins it was the god awful dialogue that summarized the situation every 5 minutes or Batman casually throwing off his "no kill" policy. Here I felt like it just didn't make sense considering what was happening.

Also surprised you didn't enjoy Zimmer's score here. The Bane Chant was chilling to me and eventually become pretty powerful and motivating.

[Blzer]

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I'm surprised you liked Act 3, honestly. Outside of TDK, that has been one of Nolan's weaknesses to me. It isn't so much the action itself as the logic inconsistencies with the rest of the film. In Batman Begins it was the god awful dialogue that summarized the situation every 5 minutes or Batman casually throwing off his "no kill" policy. Here I felt like it just didn't make sense considering what was happening.

Also surprised you didn't enjoy Zimmer's score here. The Bane Chant was chilling to me and eventually become pretty powerful and motivating.

I enjoyed the score, it just wasn't my favorite. My favorite one is definitely the one in A Watchful Guardian, which premiered in The Dark Knight.

And yes, for me Act 3 was when the film stepped up the most IMO, at least in a cinematic sense. Did you happen to watch it in IMAX? Maybe it was the amount of IMAX scenes that did it for me.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I think the closest IMAX theater is 2 or 3 hours away from me.

While watching I thought the first hour or two was on the par with TDK and then it started sinking back down to Begins.

Its weird that we like it for almost the exact opposite reasons, haha.

[The 24th Letter]

Being that 'Knightfall' is my favorite Batman arc ever, I guess my expectations of Bane were a little higher....Bane to Batman is like Doomsday to Superman for me....and I just don't think they portrayed that well...

On a positive note, Hathaway completely shocked me....was skeptical originally...

[TheMatrix31]

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Interesting you think the Burton Batman theme was more memorable than the Nolan/Zimmer theme, FT. Outside of the nostalgia, I think the recent theme/score blows it AWAY.

[WyxHarmon]

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LOL! My wife actually cried of all people.

Did anyone laugh out loud when they saw Scarecrow as the judge? Omg, I was dying - my wife was confused, the guy beside me spit out his drink through his nose, lol!

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I FREAKED out, I let out a hearty 'HAH' as did the rest of the theater. Death by exile!

[AUChase]

I guess its time for me to go back and re watch some older Batman movies. I've never been huge on super heroes or comics, but Batman is the exception.

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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Interesting you think the Burton Batman theme was more memorable than the Nolan/Zimmer theme, FT. Outside of the nostalgia, I think the recent theme/score blows it AWAY.

I think the Nolan/Zimmer theme suits the action and film better. I meant by memorable in that Elfman's theme sticks in your ear longer. Both are great for different strengths. To me, though, nothing beats the Animated Series opening theme. The Mask of the Phantasm theme ain't too shabby either. Let's be honest here. The one constant strength across all of the Batman films has been its score and soundtrack (and yes, I'm gonna include Prince's).

[The 24th Letter]

Interesting you think the Burton Batman theme was more memorable than the Nolan/Zimmer theme, FT. Outside of the nostalgia, I think the recent theme/score blows it AWAY.

The Burton Batman theme has become THE Batman theme though...I don't think anything will ever top that.

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Me and the wife were discussing in the car....I can't seem to remember off the top....The Joker survived TDK right? I keep wondering if they'd make reference to him with the breakout

[jmood88]

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I think the Nolan/Zimmer theme suits the action and film better. I meant by memorable in that Elfman's theme sticks in your ear longer. Both are great for different strengths. To me, though, nothing beats the Animated Series opening theme. The Mask of the Phantasm theme ain't too shabby either. Let's be honest here. The one constant strength across all of the Batman films has been its score and soundtrack (and yes, I'm gonna include Prince's).

I was just about to say that the Animated Series theme is what I immediately hear when I think of Batman.

[Blzer]

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The Burton Batman theme has become THE Batman theme though...I don't think anything will ever top that.

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Me and the wife were discussing in the car....I can't seem to remember off the top....The Joker survived TDK right? I keep wondering if they'd make reference to him with the breakout

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Nope. The Joker was in Arkham Asylum. I don't think Bane has much attraction for the criminally insane, so he only broke out Blackgate Prison.

[AUChase]

I wish I could find the animated series on Netflix.. nothing Batman related there..

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[jmood88]

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I wish I could find the animated series on Netflix.. nothing Batman related there..

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Well, you can listen to this over and over again and imagine that you're watching it
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[The 24th Letter]

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Nope. The Joker was in Arkham Asylum. I don't think Bane has much attraction for the criminally insane, so he only broke out Blackgate Prison.

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Yeah that's true.

Have they made any reference to Arkham in the trilogy? I can't remember