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  • MizzouBravesFan
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2489

    #31
    Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

    LOL gonna love to see how Zombie tries to pull this off after the remake's ending.

    I'm sure it'll be some stupid dream sequence or something like that...ugh.

    Man the Akkad's are ridiculous, they're going to milk Zombie's version for all they can just like they did with the original.

    Ugh.
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    • CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #32
      Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

      Originally posted by MizzouBravesFan
      LOL gonna love to see how Zombie tries to pull this off after the remake's ending.

      I'm sure it'll be some stupid dream sequence or something like that...ugh.

      Man the Akkad's are ridiculous, they're going to milk Zombie's version for all they can just like they did with the original.

      Ugh.
      It's Michael Myers. The cat can be burned, shot, battered, clothes hanger in the eyes, and every thing that would kill a normal person...............he just hops back up and goes about his business.
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      • Fresh Tendrils
        Strike Hard and Fade Away
        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #33
        Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

        @ Blzer:

        I wouldn't call the Batman movies remakes or even re-tellings.

        As far as Bourne goes, I think it lost something in its novel-to-film translation. I liked the story a lot better in the books - I felt the series was more compelling. Jason Bourne himself is the same, but thats about it.



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        • bigfnjoe96
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2004
          • 11410

          #34
          Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

          Interesting....

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42515

            #35
            Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

            Originally posted by GearsX8
            It's Michael Myers. The cat can be burned, shot, battered, clothes hanger in the eyes, and every thing that would kill a normal person...............he just hops back up and goes about his business.
            I think that's the difference between the original and the remake, though. In the original, he's much more of this mystery person. Yes, he is human born and all, but we don't really get to grasp his human side. In this one, we see him age, grow, and developmentally digress a bit. We feel that humanness that he has. It makes him more "real" in that regard.

            That's why I see it as a surprise, IMO.
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            • ExtremeGamer
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              • Jul 2002
              • 35299

              #36
              Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

              Originally posted by Blzer
              I think that's the difference between the original and the remake, though. In the original, he's much more of this mystery person. Yes, he is human born and all, but we don't really get to grasp his human side. In this one, we see him age, grow, and developmentally digress a bit. We feel that humanness that he has. It makes him more "real" in that regard.

              That's why I see it as a surprise, IMO.
              But in the same tone, that's what made the first one so scary. Sometimes not knowing is more scary than actually knowing.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42515

                #37
                Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                But in the same tone, that's what made the first one so scary. Sometimes not knowing is more scary than actually knowing.
                I think that you and I are at total agreement in this regard, and that's what I was trying to point out earlier. Honestly, Zombie didn't even try to scare us. They put us in his eyes quite a bit before introducing him in the moment of attempting to kill somebody, and a lot of times he would come out of the shadows, unsurprisingly, watching something unfold. Not really all that tense. But like I said, I don't think Zombie ever intended it like that, and we realize that about a half-hour in that this is definitely not the same kind of movie.

                To most people, it's far inferior. I just simply cannot compare them.
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                • AlexBrady
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3341

                  #38
                  Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                  Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                  But in the same tone, that's what made the first one so scary. Sometimes not knowing is more scary than actually knowing.
                  Yes exactly. Jamie Lee Curtis plays her role stupendously in the original as well.

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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #39
                    Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    I think that's the difference between the original and the remake, though. In the original, he's much more of this mystery person. Yes, he is human born and all, but we don't really get to grasp his human side. In this one, we see him age, grow, and developmentally digress a bit. We feel that humanness that he has. It makes him more "real" in that regard.

                    That's why I see it as a surprise, IMO.
                    I agree there. I think that Zombie is taking for granted that we all know the background of Myers, so he is going to throw it in our face. I would have liked a more creepy approach, but that is not what we got..........he gave us a more violent approach. I still enjoy the remake, but look at it as a complement to what Carpenter did. You guys have to agree, the remake is better than some of the Halloween sequels that really ruined the franchise, like Halloween 6: Curse of Myers where he impregnated his niece by the Thorn cult. Now that was atrocious.

                    I am glad to see Zombie come back since he can continue his tale. Halloween 1, 2, and H20 are probably the best films in the entire franchise.

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    I think that you and I are at total agreement in this regard, and that's what I was trying to point out earlier. Honestly, Zombie didn't even try to scare us. They put us in his eyes quite a bit before introducing him in the moment of attempting to kill somebody, and a lot of times he would come out of the shadows, unsurprisingly, watching something unfold. Not really all that tense. But like I said, I don't think Zombie ever intended it like that, and we realize that about a half-hour in that this is definitely not the same kind of movie.

                    To most people, it's far inferior. I just simply cannot compare them.
                    Zombie tried to shock, and some of that I didn't like as I mentioned earlier with the rape scene and the way that the family was depicted as. Other than that, I thought the movie was enjoyable.

                    The problem with RZ's H is that he made the mistake of making this 2 movies in 1. For me it hurt the film a bit because it just almost felt like the second part of the film was pasted on to the first half of the film.
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                    • MizzouBravesFan
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2489

                      #40
                      Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go



                      First footage...doesn't look TOO bad.

                      Still some of the pics that have come out make me shake my head and some of the rumors regarding the film have me wondering what the hell RZ is doing.

                      I'm getting interested in the film however.
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                      • deaduck
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 2389

                        #41
                        Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                        You know I'm begging to wonder if this isn't just a "John Carpenter" thing?

                        I mean think about it, he shot alot of Iconic type films that have or are going to be remade. Most of the remakes are better technically (IMHO). Bigger budgets, better cinematography, lighting, Special effects,ect... but they seem to always fail to capture the feel of the originals.

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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42515

                          #42
                          Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                          Originally posted by deaduck
                          You know I'm begging to wonder if this isn't just a "John Carpenter" thing?

                          I mean think about it, he shot alot of Iconic type films that have or are going to be remade. Most of the remakes are better technically (IMHO). Bigger budgets, better cinematography, lighting, Special effects,ect... but they seem to always fail to capture the feel of the originals.
                          Unfortunately, because of our current technology, doing what we did long ago sometimes won't suffice as a good movie, regardless of what people think. I know if The Heiress were made now instead of 1949 and had the same everything (but with color, HD video and sound, etc.), I would be bored to tears with the movie. It is just too simple.
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                          • Fresh Tendrils
                            Strike Hard and Fade Away
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 36131

                            #43
                            Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                            I think low budget horror films generally work better than bigger budget ones.



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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #44
                              Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                              Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                              I think low budget horror films generally work better than bigger budget ones.
                              The reason they do, IMO, is because to make it a good movie (to audiences) they must rely on a good story line, because that's all they can afford technically. So I agree with what you're saying.

                              That's why I think T:S is going to be such a great movie, as one of the posters on here said that Christian Bale basically turned down the offer for the lead role the first time, telling them if he can't stand on a stage and read the script (no special effects) and have an audience be compelled by the story, it's not good enough. So they rewrote it, re-offered the role, and he was obviously compelled enough. Throw in the special effects on top of it, and it's set to be one fantastic movie (at least by Bale's standards, whom I rely on dearly).
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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #45
                                Re: Halloween 2 Remake a Go

                                Its not only having to rely more on a good storyline, its just the feel and atmosphere that a low budget movie creates that a big budget movie simply cannot produce. A big budget movie can have a better storyline and more realistic deaths, but its so washed with technical superiority that it completely washes away the feeling for the viewer that what they're seeing feels real in a nightmarish, campfire story sort of way. One of my favorite aspects of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is that its so low budget that it basically feels like one of the friends is filming everything that is going on, which adds to the "feel like you're there" atmosphere that is important for a lot of horror films to have.
                                Last edited by Fresh Tendrils; 04-18-2009, 08:53 PM.



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