R&B Singer Chris Brown Arrested For Assaulting Girlfriend Rhianna

[mgoblue]

Re: R&B Singer Chris Brown Arrested For Assaulting Girlfriend Rhianna

I think the point is that there is a difference between restraining and getting physical with a girl if she hits you and going Mike Tyson on a broad.

You shouldn't hit her unless you feel your life is in danger. I think they just mean that most people here seemingly don't care/mind if a woman hits a man. That's still domestic violence, women aren't always the delicate flower, if she hit him, especially while driving, she was in the wrong too. That obviously doesn't justify anything he did, but she shouldn't be hitting people.

[Stumbleweed]

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No, she doesn't have the right to hit him either, and I never implied that. But if those reports are true, his infidelity caused the entire situation -- she wouldn't have hit him if he wasn't ****ing around.. her hitting him isn't right, but it's still HIS action that prompted the whole blow-up.

Responding to situations like that with physical violence is stupid, as they both found out. However, as a man, I think that unless you're in imminent danger (she has a knife/gun/is on PCP), there are other ways to handle the situation when a woman is involved. Beating her bloody, biting her arms, and choking her until she passes out then running like a ***** when you realize what you've done isn't the manly solution you people are painting it out to be.

Crux: physical violence isn't the solution to anything and almost always results in more trouble for everyone involved. If someone gave you AIDS and you kill them or beat them mercilessly, then you're so much better off dying in jail than free, right? These arguments make no sense... what is is accomplishing? He hit her back, and now he's going to be in jail with a ruined career, a lost fortune, and the guilt of nearly killing someone he (ostensibly) loved. She responded badly to his infidelity and now she's beaten to hell, canceling appearances, and soon to be involved in a media frenzy court battle. Violence is the answer, right?

He should've stopped the car, got out, and called the cops if he was so worried for his safety... that's all that needed to happen. She might get booked for domestic abuse if he can show that she hit him, and he doesn't ruin his career or have any other long-reaching consequences. I'm not just taking her side here, she wasn't right in hitting him, even if he was cheating on her. But again, HIS actions are what prompted the rage -- people get murder charges reduced for that kind of thing, so it's not like it's unprecedented to use infidelity as an excuse for violence. His response however is totally not proportional, as there are no reports that he was injured in any way. You need to go to Iran or somewhere that they have "eye for an eye" punishment if you're so gung-ho about responding with physical violence to these situations... makes me sick.

Adam Dayton is on point also.

[mgoblue]

Re: R&B Singer Chris Brown Arrested For Assaulting Girlfriend Rhianna

No, she doesn't have the right to hit him either, and I never implied that. But if those reports are true, his infidenlity caused the entire situation -- she wouldn't have hit him if he wasn't ****ing around.. her hitting him isn't right, but it's still HIS action that prompted the whole blow-up.

She escalated the situation into a domestic violence situation...I completely agree that he's at fault for what he did, and he shouldn't have done it, but you can't let her off the hook like that for hitting him. Just because she's a woman doesn't cut her any slack when it comes to domestic violence...

Yes, he should have just gotten out of the car and left, no doubt, but would they have been in that situation if she decided not to get violent and just yell at him instead? There are a lot of moments in time where this could have been averted, both of them are at fault in this relationship.

[Stumbleweed]

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Exactly, they're both at fault. But his actions were WAY over the line. She could've broken his nose with one punch and it wouldn't warrant CHOKING HER UNTIL SHE PASSES OUT. My god. That's not self-defense.

Then the little 19 year-old immature idiot runs off once he realized what he did. Maybe he'll grow up after he spends some time in prison.

EDIT: Oh, and here's an awesome little tidbit from Wikipedia:

"From the ages seven to thirteen, Brown was scarred by the domestic violence his mother endured from her boyfriend.[16] He claims to 'hate him to this day'."

Hates him enough to do the same thing to the woman he loves, I guess.

[mgoblue]

Re: R&B Singer Chris Brown Arrested For Assaulting Girlfriend Rhianna

Exactly, they're both at fault. But his actions were WAY over the line. She could've broken his nose with one punch and it wouldn't warrant CHOKING HER UNTIL SHE PASSES OUT. My god. That's not self-defense.

I agree 100%...nothing justifies what he did. She's just not the innocent flower in the garden either. She'd just have gottent minor domestic dispute charges for hitting him, whereas he'll deservedly get hit with something serious for the beatdown he delivered.

[GSW]

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She escalated the situation into a domestic violence situation...I completely agree that he's at fault for what he did, and he shouldn't have done it, but you can't let her off the hook like that for hitting him. Just because she's a woman doesn't cut her any slack when it comes to domestic violence...

Yes, he should have just gotten out of the car and left, no doubt, but would they have been in that situation if she decided not to get violent and just yell at him instead? There are a lot of moments in time where this could have been averted, both of them are at fault in this relationship.

Im not condoning beating women or anything of that nature.

but if i get hit in my face or anything of that magnitude... there will be repurcussions.

Thats the only reason women get loud with men, and strike them, because they feel they are untouchable... it stems from a lack of respect.

There are ways you can make sure the woman knows that in no way shape or form even if shes mad as hell, that it is okay to strike you...

[Adam Dayton]

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I never said that, you dont beat a woman like that regardless.


Lol.

"she shouldn't think that he isn't going to get hit back"

Why is it so bizarre for her to think that with the notion that "it is never OK to hit a woman " unless it were of the norm to hit a woman back in that situation? The point is, she shouldn't expect him to hit back because you simply do not hit women. It sounds as though you are trying to mitigate the severity of his actions when you say stuff like that. And I was speaking more in generalities to the posters who condone such an act.

[cubsfan203]

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Im not condoning beating women or anything of that nature.

but if i get hit in my face or anything of that magnitude... there will be repurcussions.

Thats the only reason women get loud with men, and strike them, because they feel they are untouchable... it stems from a lack of respect.

There are ways you can make sure the woman knows that in no way shape or form even if shes mad as hell, that it is okay to strike you...

Even if there were repurcussions, I doubt you would take it near as far as it appears he did in this situation. It sounds like he socked her several times, and then if he really did choke her until she passed out.....like I said before the dude should lose his career over this one.

Not even mentioning the fact that in reality it was him who started it by sleeping around.

[TarHeelMan]

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"she shouldn't think that he isn't going to get hit back"

Why is it so bizarre for her to think that with the notion that "it is never OK to hit a woman " unless it were of the norm to hit a woman back in that situation? The point is, she shouldn't expect him to hit back because you simply do not hit women. It sounds as though you are trying to mitigate the severity of his actions when you say stuff like that. And I was speaking more in generalities to the posters who condone such an act.

This is a fantasy.... I agree with you, but the reality of the world we live in is that some chicks will push a dude to the limits, and then get shocked and surprised when a cat gives her a two piece to the jaw. I've seen it several times, where a chick would just keep pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, until she got the ultimate reaction. Now, again, because someone will read this and think I am condoning beating on females, read clearly, I DON'T. I was taught by my father to "split before you hit", so there's no need of escalating the situation. But not everyone has the same logic.

Sadly, some are involved in relationships like that, and that's the only way they know how to deal. I had a chick I dated in Jersey one time, who came from an abusive household. She had low self-esteem, was very jealous, and we fought constantly about whether or not I was running around on her (I wasn't). She would accuse me of looking at other females even if there were like 500 dudes in the room. But I'm a calm cat by nature, so me rationally talking to her didn't work. But one day she pushed me to the max, we were in the street in Manhattan, and out the blue she starts in about some chick who had walked by. She's pushing the issue, and keeps pushing it, and I'm calmly like, "don't start this now". She kept on, and finally I stopped and shouted at her "Shut up! I told you not to start this now! Either you come now, or you stand here by yourself and look stupid!!" THAT was what it took to get through to her. I can't front, for a brief minute I had that "yeah, my pimp hand is MAD strong" feeling, but I was uncomfortable, because it took things going to THAT level for this chick to comprehend. And that is so NOT my nature. I couldn't be myself and stay with this chick. So we lasted maybe another couple months, then I had to cut it loose.

[realtalktruth]

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And it's because of him ****ing around on her... big surprise. Quality guy.

You dudes defending him look worse and worse. Glad to see vickhallofame make an appearance and knocked this thread out of the park... bloody hell.

i spoke specifically about if she had given him an std. its not my fault people want to be sexist and think you shouldn't hit a women just because she is a women. if i payed women less because they were women then you shouldn't have a problem with that at all should you?

and again like i said, you shouldn't hit anyone period, but if someone does and they deserved it, i won't feel sorry at all for them.

[Bird006]

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Wow, dude lost it.


They're both at fault here. CB was in the wrong for supposedly cheating on her.. But he's a 19 year old superstar. I'm sure Rihanna isn't exactly 100% faithful.

He definitely shouldn't of gone that far, though. He probably just saw red and kept going until he realized what he did. Sad stuff.

[KG]

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If she did infact give him herpes then Chris Brown going Bobby Brown on her is the least of her worries. This is bad press for her career. Same thing for Chris Brown. Feeling bad for the kid because she gave him herpes will only take him so far. At the end of the day the kid beat up his girlfriend.

Now the big question in all of this is...........

When will Hov step in ?

Yeah, it's hard to sell sex to people knowing that you're due for a breakout.

[Adam Dayton]

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i spoke specifically about if she had given him an std. its not my fault people want to be sexist and think you shouldn't hit a women just because she is a women. if i payed women less because they were women then you shouldn't have a problem with that at all should you?

and again like i said, you shouldn't hit anyone period, but if someone does and they deserved it, i won't feel sorry at all for them.

Unfortunately, there are numerous physiological reasons as to why the majority of women are more or less largely defenseless against men. Women shoud be treated equally in the work place because no evidence indicates that they are less intelligent, less capable of leading a team, etc than their male counterparts. Your argument has no foundation.

[RedheadKingpin]

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Im not condoning beating women or anything of that nature.

but if i get hit in my face or anything of that magnitude... there will be repurcussions.

Thats the only reason women get loud with men, and strike them, because they feel they are untouchable... it stems from a lack of respect.

There are ways you can make sure the woman knows that in no way shape or form even if shes mad as hell, that it is okay to strike you...

I'm sorry,I don't care what the reason is,you hit a woman and in my book you're a punk and I don't have any respect for you.

If it gets to the point where you feel you're about to hit a woman,it's time to walk away.

[realtalktruth]

Re: R&B Singer Chris Brown Arrested For Assaulting Girlfriend Rhianna

Unfortunately, there are numerous physiological reasons as to why the majority of women are more or less largely defenseless against men. Women shoud be treated equally in the work place because no evidence indicates that they are less intelligent, less capable of leading a team, etc than their male counterparts. Your argument has no foundation.

and again there are physiological reasons as to why men are more or less largely defenseless against other men... lets say ray lewis. your argument has no foundation.