Alien Prequel Now "Prometheus"

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I haven't seen the film but considering the comments I've read about it, that hilarious review seems to cover every major plot point and drip of anger I'd experience if I had.


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You might enjoy the undertones and honestly a lot the characters felt like 'LOST' in space. Same type of rationale and same type of logic that is pretty much sacrificed for to move through the plot and symbolism. Its Lindelof. I don't see why people are raging about it, though. Some people act as if this movie killed their entire family. Yeah, some parts cause you to scratch your head, but when you see the same people react negatively to this, but praise Transformers/Hunger Games/Avengers you have to wonder.

If you can get over the character logic problems the movie is worth seeing as pretty much everything else is great. Visually it is stunning. Fassbender is excellent. It does raise interesting topics of discussion and honestly I was still thinking about the movie several weeks after seeing it.

[CMH]

You might enjoy the undertones and honestly a lot the characters felt like 'LOST' in space. Same type of rationale and same type of logic that is pretty much sacrificed for to move through the plot and symbolism. Its Lindelof. I don't see why people are raging about it, though. Some people act as if this movie killed their entire family. Yeah, some parts cause you to scratch your head, but when you see the same people react negatively to this, but praise Transformers/Hunger Games/Avengers you have to wonder.

If you can get over the character logic problems the movie is worth seeing as pretty much everything else is great. Visually it is stunning. Fassbender is excellent. It does raise interesting topics of discussion and honestly I was still thinking about the movie several weeks after seeing it.

I do still want to watch it as a fan of the Alien series.

I'll be hard on a movie but I do agree some seem to go way overboard as if the film commits murder.

I haven't seem Avengers but if you're comparing the plot issues to those other films, I'm concerned how I'll feel.

To be honest, I expect the film to look gorgeous and be well- acted. I thought the plot would make it feel like Alien but it seems it's more of a summer blockbuster action film. Everyone needs a little fun sometimes, I guess.

I won't pay for it at theaters.


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[Fresh Tendrils]

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They have similar character problems as those movies. I think the plot itself is pretty linear and quickly paced, though still more coherent than Transformers. My point was that it seems character logic is forgiven in those types of movies and I guess more was expected out of this film. Its not a tense horror movie like Alien. Its not a space-alien brawl like Aliens. It really comes off as a mega space adventure more than anything else. Like you said, it is definitely a summer blockbuster movie, but people aren't forgiving the logic flaws because of the franchise its connected to. Pretty sure the character logic would be plausible if this were a video game, though.

Not to mention this blockbuster gives you a lot more to talk about which is something very few blockbusters seem to give us.

[JMD]

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When I go to a movie I shut my brain off, meaning I do not look at every scene and analyze it to death. I watch the entire movie and at the end if I was entertained then I walk away happy. This movie entertained me, loved it.

[mrprice33]

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This movie was so terrible it almost ruined the original Alien for me.

Almost.

[SlimKibbles]

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This movie was so terrible it almost ruined the original Alien for me.

Almost.

Care to elaborate?

[mrprice33]

Care to elaborate?

Besides the lack of internal logic in the film (which was bad enough), the whole idea of a "space adventure" with Shaw and David that apparently leads up to and perhaps happens concurrently with the events of Alien is ridiculous.

Besides that, it takes all of the mystery away from the xenos. Part of the wonder of Alien was not knowing where the alien came from, just that it was this perfect killing machine. Pulling the curtain back on that almost ruins it, especially if you think (as I do) that they are going to try to painstakingly explain (or Lindelof explain, anyway) everything leading up to the start of Alien, it's going to get rid of all the mystery.

[mattsb84]

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Besides the lack of internal logic in the film (which was bad enough), the whole idea of a "space adventure" with Shaw and David that apparently leads up to and perhaps happens concurrently with the events of Alien is ridiculous.

Besides that, it takes all of the mystery away from the xenos. Part of the wonder of Alien was not knowing where the alien came from, just that it was this perfect killing machine. Pulling the curtain back on that almost ruins it, especially if you think (as I do) that they are going to try to painstakingly explain (or Lindelof explain, anyway) everything leading up to the start of Alien, it's going to get rid of all the mystery.

I agree with you that I thought the movie was not good, so far as plot holes and other general oddities. I was anticipating this more then Avengers, so I really wanted to like it, but it didn't really deliver. However, I disagree about ruining the mystique of the xenos. I'm rather happy they're trying to expand the universe and explain some things. In interviews, it is mentioned that they intend to make a sequel that will tie this in to Alien so perhaps they didn't want to give answers to everything in this one.

The movie was gorgeous in 3d imax though. One of the few 3d movies that looked good. To bad the story was just...poop. It seemed more then a little disjointed. Hoping for a directors cut for home release to fill in the blanks and/or improve it.

[Blzer]

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Finally saw the film, as it's the last day my theater is showing it before Spider-Man takes over.

I just wasn't too into it. I wanted to be, but it didn't engage me like I hoped it would. Too many of the film's biggest moments almost seemed to fall flat from the characters' perspectives, and it jumped to the end a little too quickly, compared to the pacing of the rest of the movie that is.

Won't be buying the Blu-ray when it comes out, but the free ticket was still worth something I suppose.

I saw it in 3D, by the way. There wasn't anything spectacular whatsoever about it being shot in 3D, which makes me believe it was probably at least a good looking 2D movie (I hate when directors shoot films with 3D in mind... makes for some ugly looking 2D films).

[mrprice33]

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I agree with you that I thought the movie was not good, so far as plot holes and other general oddities. I was anticipating this more then Avengers, so I really wanted to like it, but it didn't really deliver. However, I disagree about ruining the mystique of the xenos. I'm rather happy they're trying to expand the universe and explain some things. In interviews, it is mentioned that they intend to make a sequel that will tie this in to Alien so perhaps they didn't want to give answers to everything in this one.

The movie was gorgeous in 3d imax though. One of the few 3d movies that looked good. To bad the story was just...poop. It seemed more then a little disjointed. Hoping for a directors cut for home release to fill in the blanks and/or improve it.

What's there to explain? Ship gets distress call. Finds killer alien. Alien does crazy stuff. People die. The end.

Why is it necessary to know where it came from? There's almost nothing they can do (and this certainly wasn't it) that can live up to whatever I built in my mind about where that creature came from, ESPECIALLY finding out that it was basically a big accident.

[CMH]

In spoiler tags for those that haven't watched but does the movie somewhat explain how these people come about this alien species and don't know anything about it when Alien happens?


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[mrprice33]

In spoiler tags for those that haven't watched but does the movie somewhat explain how these people come about this alien species and don't know anything about it when Alien happens?


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NOPE.

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[SlimKibbles]

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What's there to explain? Ship gets distress call. Finds killer alien. Alien does crazy stuff. People die. The end.

Why is it necessary to know where it came from? There's almost nothing they can do (and this certainly wasn't it) that can live up to whatever I built in my mind about where that creature came from, ESPECIALLY finding out that it was basically a big accident.

You made some good points in your posts. There are some head-scratchers with the plot. I know I felt that way at some points while watching the movie. Many have mentioned those holes.

I for one don't mind "origin" stories like this one, and it's sequel, apparently are. It's just one person's idea about it. I think I'm more interested in seeing Fassbender and Rapace going to the engineers homeworld at the moment though. I have no idea if that will happen in the sequel but it's enticing to me.

[3bitz]

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In anticipation of the Prometheus Blu-Ray release on the 9th of this month I have been watching the first 2 Alien movies nonstop. As I watched Alien 1, I couldn't help but remember how much advanced the technology was used on and off the Prometheus ship. Even the way the crew was dressed was beyond the 1980's street clothes worn by the crew of the Nostromo. Even if the team of the Prometheus was supposed to be on different missions, as a supposed prequel (which I will come back to) it made Alien look like the dirty step child. What was Ridley Scott trying to say if this was the case? That after sending the Prometheus into outerspace the Weyland budget to send the Nostromo was too tight to get the same upgrades? If that's the case, then he should explain how the Nostromo, when compared to the scale of Prometheus vessel, would had cost 8 times more to send into out of space. One other thing, how did they not only find that planet (no signal sent like in the first Alien movie) and the Alien ship that had been in plain sight from such a simple cave drawing? Furthermore, how would Shaw and David find the planet that the ship even came from without a cave drawing, a hidden signal, hell or Proffessor X? I know some will say David can translate the ships navigation, but really? How can a humanoid robot decipher the origin of the Space jokey's when there are 1000's of star constellation's to choose from? This all leads me back to the whole prequel or sequel debate.
When the director of the The Thing prequel made his movie he was at least smart enough to have both the oringinal and the prequel look exactly alike in 1980's tone and wardrobe. Now Ridley has been directing movies long enough to see the obvious differences in the technological differences of both his original and Prometheus. With all that said I believe that Prometheus is exactly both.
I believe that what happened during the events of the Prometheus movie happened before Alien. Question 1 is why didn't the Nostromo crew not find any wreckage from the Prometheus when they discovered the Space jokey's ship that crashed into it? If you already seen the movie, then you know Prometheus didn't explode into a million pieces. Question 2 and I'm speaking hypothetically, what if the Earth that the crew from Prometheus wasn't even ours? If the Space Jokey's populated the universe wouldn't it be plausible to think that the worlds would be similar? I believe The Space Jokey's had to had been at war with another alien race, and that may have been the real cause to the first crashed ship found in Alien 1. Their also another theory, that the ships slipped streamed out of time somehow. Maybe between the Nostromo( in cryo space) the Space Jockey's ship that had been found by the Prometheus crew went through a worm hole. I don't know, just speculating and hopefully Ridley Scott will straighten out this mess! Lol!

[Cpre5]

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