Conan's Reign Ends...and then begins AGAIN!

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Howard Stern being interviewed about Leno from the CBS early show this morning-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bI1h0bYgtg

Dude is GOAT.

I may be critical of Stern's fanbase (not all, but the more vocal yahoos) but Stern has to be one of the most honest and brilliant talkers in the business.

[Porschebenz2001]

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I may be critical of Stern's fanbase (not all, but the more vocal yahoos) but Stern has to be one of the most honest and brilliant talkers in the business.

Anyway, Leno will continue to beat Letterman as he always did when he was there.

[Coug00]

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Anyway, Leno will continue to beat Letterman as he always did when he was there.

That's what NBC is betting on, but they've got to be disappointed that only ~6.6m tuned in to see his return. Once the curiosity dies down, I'd bet Dave and Jay are pretty competitive in the ratings.

[Adam Dayton]

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Anyway, Leno will continue to beat Letterman as he always did when he was there.

Why is that funny? He's probably the most open/honest person in show business. Who knows about Leno, his reputation has been awfully tainted the past few months. Let's see if people simply forget this switch ever happened.

[Porschebenz2001]

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Why is that funny? He's probably the most open/honest person in show business. Who knows about Leno, his reputation has been awfully tainted the past few months. Let's see if people simply forget this switch ever happened.

It's funny because Howard is a complete fraud. It's cool though, this argument would go nowhere. You're probably a die hard Howard guy, and I'm a die hard O and A guy.

No matter what Leno does now people are gonna hate on him, I guess we'll see.

[Adam Dayton]

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It's funny because Howard is a complete fraud. It's cool though, this argument would go nowhere. You're probably a die hard Howard guy, and I'm a die hard O and A guy.

No matter what Leno does now people are gonna hate on him, I guess we'll see.

I think O and A are complete frauds for acting like they are in the same universe as Stern. They could barely get ratings on terestial radio towards the end, lol. Nice try though.

[Porschebenz2001]

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I think O and A are complete frauds for acting like they are in the same universe as Stern. They could barely get ratings on terestial radio towards the end, lol. Nice try though.

Well that's just BS. They have always given Howard his props for what his show used to be. And have never denied he was great once. They never doubted his success. They never compare their show to Howard's. As for Howard, he doesn't even have the balls to mention them on the air, much less talk about comparisons.

I didn't want to have this argument. But whatever, you can keep drinking the Howie Kool-aid and believe everything he says is gospel. We get it, he's the King and everybody else after him is a rip-off. Yeah, right and Zeppelin's totally original.

[Adam Dayton]

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Well that's just BS. They have always given Howard his props for what his show used to be. And have never denied he was great once. They never doubted his success. They never compare their show to Howard's. As for Howard, he doesn't even have the balls to mention them on the air, much less talk about comparisons.

I didn't want to have this argument. But whatever, you can keep drinking the Howie Kool-aid and believe everything he says is gospel. We get it, he's the King and everybody else after him is a rip-off. Yeah, right and Zeppelin's totally original.

Sorry, but I drink noone's koolaid. Led Zepplin IS a rip off. Listen to Moby Dick and tell me that isn't Bobby Parker's "Watch Your Step" with random bs drumming at the end.

1. Stern does mention them from time to time and laughs.

2. Stern has been in feud's with countless amounts of lesser radio shows in his insanely long career and has buried most of them. He isn't "scared" of these nothings. Why would he constantly mention a nothing radio show? With his audience, it would obviously be way more beneficial to them than it is for him. As I said, there are many times when he references them, perhaps not as much as they/you'd like. The truth is they are just not that relevant or important. Mistaking Stern not talking about them as he being scared makes them act like they are in the same universe as a Stern in terms of their relevancy, which is exactly my point. These guys were struggling for ratings towards the end of their terestrial "reign". They simply are not as important as you would like to believe.

[Porschebenz2001]

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Sorry, but I drink noone's koolaid. Led Zepplin IS a rip off. Listen to Moby Dick and tell me that isn't Bobby Parker's "Watch Your Step" with random bs drumming at the end.

1. Stern does mention them from time to time and laughs.

2. Stern has been in feud's with countless amounts of lesser radio shows in his insanely long career and has buried most of them. He isn't "scared" of these nothings. Why would he constantly mention a nothing radio show? With his audience, it would obviously be way more beneficial to them than it is for him. As I said, there are many times when he references them, perhaps not as much as they/you'd like. The truth is they are just not that relevant or importance.

Wow you are ignorant. O and A are nothings? You're crazy. They have gone head to head with Howard and beat him. They are the only show who has done that. It's a fact.

I couldn't possibly care less if Howard references them.

What makes Howard more relevant, right now, then O and A? What has he been in the news for recently? The only way he gets in the paper now is when his wife is doing something.

[Adam Dayton]

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Wow you are ignorant. O and A are nothings? You're crazy.

I couldn't possibly care less if Howard references them.

What makes Howard more relevant, right now, then O and A? What has he been in the news for recently? The only way he gets in the paper now is when his wife is doing something.

1. You said Howard doesn't discuss them because he is scared in your previous post. I showcased how that is simply a lie, and you rebut by saying "I couldn't possibly care less if Howard references them." Lol.

2. Are you nuts? His name has been all over the news concerning American Idol for the last month. I just linked you to an interview on CBS morning show all because of his very opinion of Jay Leno. His intern beauty pageant has been all over the news. In terms of relevancy being defined by media exposure, you are just simply wrong and everyone in this thread but you recognizes this. Hell, we were all discussing Stern in the American Idol thread. But I guess this all has to do with Beth?

In terms of relevancy with regard to audience. On top of making him one of the wealthiest entertainer in the world (100 mill a year), Stern signed on to Sirius when they had 600 thousand subscriptions. Following his sign on, they are now in the several millions (even before their merge with XM). I could go on and on with regard to this. Your argument is weak.

Nice edit. Please show me the information backing up your statements that they "beat" Howard.

[Porschebenz2001]

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1. You said Howard doesn't discuss them because he is scared in your previous post. I showcased how that is simply a lie, and you rebut by saying "I couldn't possibly care less if Howard references them." Lol.

2. Are you nuts? His name has been all over the news concerning American Idol for the last month. I just linked you to an interview on CBS morning show all because of his very opinion of Jay Leno. His intern beauty pageant has been all over the news. In terms of relevancy being defined by media exposure, you are just simply wrong and everyone in this thread but you recognizes this. Hell, we were all discussing Stern in the American Idol thread. But I guess this all has to do with Beth?

In terms of relevancy with regard to audience. On top of making him the wealthiest entertainer in the world (100 mill a year), Stern signed on to Sirius when they had 600 thousand subscriptions. Following his sign on, they are now in the several millions (even before their merge with XM). I could go on and on with regard to this. Your argument is weak.

Oh wow! Big bad *** shock jock they can't tell me what to do Howard Stern is in the news for American Idol and Beauty Pageants! How bout all the good times he has been having with Oprah and Barbra Walters?

Do you really think he has earned that massive pay check? The guy is washed up and has mailed it in. Listen to audio from him 4 or 5 years ago saying how he can't wait to get out of radio and only was working for 3 more years. 56 and still working Howie? Come on.

That isn't simply a lie.

Because he was to scared to mention them on the radio for years. He didn't start mentioning them again until they could talk about him again. He put a gag order on them for years so they couldn't even mention his name. Then they got fired for Sex for Sam and all of a sudden he is comfortable with talking about them.

Then they went to XM and Howard had no control over whether or not they could talk about him. So then he shut his mouth.

The gag order thing is true. If he is all about free speech for everyone why would he want to shut O and A up? Why wouldn't he let them talk about him? The arrogant jerk told Hannity that he only cared about his own free speech and no one else's. That should tell you all you need to know IMO.

[Adam Dayton]

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That isn't simply a lie.

Because he was to scared to mention them on the radio for years. He didn't start mentioning them again until they could talk about him again. He put a gag order on them for years so they couldn't even mention his name. Then they got fired for Sex for Sam and all of a sudden he is comfortable with talking about them.

Then they went to XM and Howard had no control over whether or not they could talk about him. So then he shut his mouth.

The gag order thing is true. If he is all about free speech for everyone why would he want to shut O and A up? Why wouldn't he let them talk about him? The arrogant jerk told Hannity that he only cared about his own free speech and no one else's. That should tell you all you need to know IMO.

1. Please provide reputable information regarding this gag order claim.

2. Please follow up on your poorly developed previous points which you have not defended (They beat Howard. Howard is not relevant. Howard gets no media exposure unless it's about his wife, etc)

[Porschebenz2001]

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Gag Order

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[Adam Dayton]

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Oh wow! Big bad *** shock jock they can't tell me what to do Howard Stern is in the news for American Idol and Beauty Pageants! How bout all the good times he has been having with Oprah and Barbra Walters?

Do you really think he has earned that massive pay check? The guy is washed up and has mailed it in. Listen to audio from him 4 or 5 years ago saying how he can't wait to get out of radio and only was working for 3 more years. 56 and still working Howie? Come on.

That isn't simply a lie.

Because he was to scared to mention them on the radio for years. He didn't start mentioning them again until they could talk about him again. He put a gag order on them for years so they couldn't even mention his name. Then they got fired for Sex for Sam and all of a sudden he is comfortable with talking about them.

Then they went to XM and Howard had no control over whether or not they could talk about him. So then he shut his mouth.

The gag order thing is true. If he is all about free speech for everyone why would he want to shut O and A up? Why wouldn't he let them talk about him? The arrogant jerk told Hannity that he only cared about his own free speech and no one else's. That should tell you all you need to know IMO.

I will requote this since you like to edit your posts a great deal.

1. Can't really discern your first paragraph as it is in broken english but I imagine you are saying something along the lines of "big deal". You just said Howard is not in the media unless it's about his wife. You were simply wrong.

2. My argument was that concerning relevancy. A company paying an entertainer that much showcases how major corporations feel about his worth. In terms of earning 100 million, how the hell am I supposed to know what "earning" a 100 million paycheck is? Is it bringing in many subscribers? Because he certainly has done that.

[Adam Dayton]

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Gag Order

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Video isn't loading on my computer. But if you are sending me a link of them discussing this on their radio show, it is hardly reputable evidence.

Edit: OK it's Howard talking. I agree that gag order is completely BS.