Michael Jackson has passed away

[CeltBhoy33]

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Because we live in a 24/7 new world that is fueled by this kind of stuff. You can't escape it.

I can escape it go one with a life. Rather than trying to be so focused on some one elses that is dead. People need to just let it go and gtfo it.

But that's my opinnion.

[CeltBhoy33]

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The Greatest Entertainer That Ever Lived
RIP MJ

lol I don't know about that man.
Possibly for you it was. But very very far from it for me.

[CeltBhoy33]

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Now here are my main questions of the day

1. How did Michael Jackson open up the doors for late night talk shows

2. How did Michael Jackson make Magic Johnson a better point guard

3. I thought Jackie Robinson opened up the door for players such as Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson but i guess it was Michael Jackson

What about Elvis didn't he help the black people in music wise?
I am not an elvis fan but I believe he had a bad full of african americans. They were not socially accepted then the guy starts making good music everyone loves him he starts going on shows and stuff. Idk I'm lost. I agree with you Matt I don't feel MJ could have helped Magic be better even if magic said it. Magic had to work his butt off in the gym 24/7 most likely.

Again my opinion.

[Jukeman]

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lol I don't know about that man.
Possibly for you it was. But very very far from it for me.

Who do you like better?

[CeltBhoy33]

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Who do you like better?

I would have to say Minor Threat because they for one opened the doors for hardcore, or Johnny Cash.

Michael Jackson I am sure made good music but I hate it. Not my taste.

I agree with this guy on the MJ death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz03nQrFLAk

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Michael Jackson also opened the doors for a lot of people as well. Obviously Magic is the only one that can say or prove how MJ made him a better PG and none of us other than Magic are in a position to dispute how he did or didn't make him a better PG.

I think Po Pimp answered his questions but if you want to find more info about it, you should research it up to find additional answers. Not trying to sound like a smart *** or anything either.

[CeltBhoy33]

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Michael Jackson also opened the doors for a lot of people as well. Obviously Magic is the only one that can say or prove how MJ made him a better PG and none of us other than Magic are in a position to dispute how he did or didn't make him a better PG.

I think Po Pimp answered his questions but if you want to find more info about it, you should research it up to find additional answers. Not trying to sound like a smart *** or anything either.

Not to sound like a smart *** either but was MJ in the gym with him pushing him harder, rebounding for him pushing him in defensive slides. I doubt it. You can get as much positive reinforcement as you want but that will only take you so far.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Minor Threat as entertainers? Not to discredit them as an influence on punk, but thats just funny.

Johnny Cash was a definite showman, At Folsom Prison and At San Quentin definitely show that.

IIRC, Elvis' band members were all white. If there's one thing that can be said for Elvis is that when he first started getting attention the DJs had to say where Elvis went to high-school cause radio listeners thought it was a black man singing.

MJ was definitely the single biggest solo entertainer ever. When your music videos premiere on prime time television, you know you're the ****.

And I can buy into Magic saying MJ made him a better PG. If MJ's success in music, his work ethic and his personality were all influences on Magic, then I can see it pushing Magic to be as good a player as MJ was an entertainer.

[CeltBhoy33]

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You thinks it's funny but I laugh that you say Minor threat is punk. They shaped hardcore not little sex pistols or crass crap.
I would much rather be at any hardcore show rather than seeing a grown man with 20 nose surgery's grabbing him self like a 2 year old. I have no respect for the man what so ever. Many men in the show biz or music biz have come from rough child hoods and don't turn up as messed up as him.

Like I said I don't know much about Elvis but from what I have learned about him he helped African Americans push there way on to the music scene, with the style he used in his music.

Again I disagree with MJ pushing Magic.

Minor Threat as entertainers? Not to discredit them as an influence on punk, but thats just funny.

Johnny Cash was a definite showman, At Folsom Prison and At San Quentin definitely show that.

IIRC, Elvis' band members were all white. If there's one thing that can be said for Elvis is that when he first started getting attention the DJs had to say where Elvis went to high-school cause radio listeners thought it was a black man singing.

MJ was definitely the single biggest solo entertainer ever. When your music videos premiere on prime time television, you know you're the ****.

And I can buy into Magic saying MJ made him a better PG. If MJ's success in music, his work ethic and his personality were all influences on Magic, then I can see it pushing Magic to be as good a player as MJ was an entertainer.

[CeltBhoy33]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOf6w59jz_g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLD-2o5fkSo

If you don't think this would be an amazing show to go to then you must like different type of music. This is far from punk. It was a transition that made hardcore what is today. Not that the new hardcore were it's all breakdowns and bull crap. I'm talking the fast hardcore like Trash Talk, Outbreak, Have Heart.

[Russell_SCEA]

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Minor Threat as entertainers? Not to discredit them as an influence on punk, but thats just funny.

Johnny Cash was a definite showman, At Folsom Prison and At San Quentin definitely show that.

IIRC, Elvis' band members were all white. If there's one thing that can be said for Elvis is that when he first started getting attention the DJs had to say where Elvis went to high-school cause radio listeners thought it was a black man singing.

MJ was definitely the single biggest solo entertainer ever. When your music videos premiere on prime time television, you know you're the ****.

And I can buy into Magic saying MJ made him a better PG. If MJ's success in music, his work ethic and his personality were all influences on Magic, then I can see it pushing Magic to be as good a player as MJ was an entertainer.

Word dude had 48 hour countdowns for his new joints. Remember the first time you saw that video for remember the time when he turned into dust. I lost it as a kid watching that.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I was never much of a Minor Threat fan, I prefer X or Social D to be honest and I don't really pay attention to labels or all the little fragmentations. If I like it, I like it I could care less if is new wave, hardcore, post-punk, etc.

As much as I love Elvis, he didn't help the acceptance of "black" music. 1) Black DJs/musicians were pissed at him cause they pretty much believed he had stolen their style 2) His antics fueled the fire against rockabilly and early rock n roll, which eventually would result in the payola scandal but thats a long story.

If Magic says MJ was a big influence, then you can't argue that unless you're close friends with Magic.

I understand you don't like MJ or his music and thats perfectly fine, but to argue that he wasn't the biggest entertainer in the world and then bring in Minor Threat as your #1 choice is silly. I get it that you love Minor Threat and prefer their music to MJ's, but I think even Minor Threat would acknowledge MJ's influence in the world of music and entertainment.

[CeltBhoy33]

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I was never much of a Minor Threat fan, I prefer X or Social D to be honest and I don't really pay attention to labels or all the little fragmentations. If I like it, I like it I could care less if is new wave, hardcore, post-punk, etc.

As much as I love Elvis, he didn't help the acceptance of "black" music. 1) Black DJs/musicians were pissed at him cause they pretty much believed he had stolen their style 2) His antics fueled the fire against rockabilly and early rock n roll, which eventually would result in the payola scandal but thats a long story.

If Magic says MJ was a big influence, then you can't argue that unless you're close friends with Magic.

I understand you don't like MJ or his music and thats perfectly fine, but to argue that he wasn't the biggest entertainer in the world and then bring in Minor Threat as your #1 choice is silly. I get it that you love Minor Threat and prefer their music to MJ's, but I think even Minor Threat would acknowledge MJ's influence in the world of music and entertainment.

X? You mean Project X? That was a joke band they were sending the message that Minor Threat started which was straight edge which I am. It wasn't a wave it was a revolution. Social distortion isn't hardcore it's not a label it's a genre.
Now I said Minor threat or Johnny Cash for me he is the number one and to people who like real hardcore would say minor threat. MJ has no influence what so ever in hardcore the only dancing there is is throwing down now unless mj was a violent man then ok. haha I couldn't see a man that would rather look like a woman and being accused of molestation charges being like that.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Not Project X. X.

1) You're mind is like a one-track tape, man. Think outside of hardcore for a couple seconds, there's a lot more to the world of music than that and whether you want to believe it or not, MJ was a big (and during his reign of the 80s and early 90s, the biggest) part of that world. As for "throwing down" dancing, check out the end of the extended Black or White music video, the man definitely got a little violent which speaks a lot for his convictions and passion for not only that song but its message as MJ was a shy and very soft-spoken man.

2) As I said before, Minor Threat would probably be able to acknowledge MJ's impact and influence on the industry whether it directly or indirectly influenced them or not. Just because a person/band doesn't have the same style or approach, doesn't mean they aren't influenced by those outside of their genre.

[Jukeman]

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Wow just WOW.....

People amaze me.........

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