*** Big Brother: Season 11 ***

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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I'l have more thoughts tommorow but I have a few quick hits for now:

- Jordan is easily the worst winner in BB history. She clutched up by winning the final 2 HoH challenges but she did nothing else in the game. What you saw on the show was what people saw on the live feeds ......... a person that was clueless when it came to the game of BB.

I guess if you like the "nice" person to win than you should be happy. I always want to see the person that played the best game win, so I would have voted for Nat. I would have voted for Kevin over both of them

- For a live Jury Q+A, it lacked fireworks. All of them tossed softballs when they should have tossed grenades.

- WTF was with Braden and his "playa"/"pimp" talk? What a tool.

- I cracked up at Jeff's comment after being asked if she would take Jordan on his trip.

- I rank this season 8 out of 11 (only better than Season 1, 4, and 9)

[LionsFanNJ]

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IMO Jun was a worse winner, though Jordan was quite clueless. Smart to take Natalie though, as Kevin would have probably got the win over her.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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Only vote that surprised me was Jessie's. Even if Chyma had a vote and not America, Jordan still wins 4-3. Jordan didn't make enemies and won comps when she needed to.

[jeremym480]

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I'l have more thoughts tommorow but I have a few quick hits for now:

- Jordan is easily the worst winner in BB history. She clutched up by winning the final 2 HoH challenges but she did nothing else in the game. What you saw on the show was what people saw on the live feeds ......... a person that was clueless when it came to the game of BB.

I guess if you like the "nice" person to win than you should be happy. I always want to see the person that played the best game win, so I would have voted for Nat. I would have voted for Kevin over both of them

- For a live Jury Q+A, it lacked fireworks. All of them tossed softballs when they should have tossed grenades.

- WTF was with Braden and his "playa"/"pimp" talk? What a tool.

- I cracked up at Jeff's comment after being asked if she would take Jordan on his trip.

- I rank this season 8 out of 11 (only better than Season 1, 4, and 9)

I agree with you on a lot of points. However, I think that both of them played pretty poorly and made it to the end because they weren't clear threats to win.

However, I do agree with the jury's decision because Jordan did clutch up at the end and that's why I think she deserved to win over Knat.

A quick off topic question.... I've been wondering if there is anyway to view the past BB's. I started watching Year 5 but, my girlfriend has just seen the last two. I know that 1 season (3) is on DVD. But, I wonder why didn't the release the rest of them?? And is there anywhere else I could find them??

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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IMO Jun was a worse winner, though Jordan was quite clueless. Smart to take Natalie though, as Kevin would have probably got the win over her.

Jun is near the bottom in terms of BB winners, but she didn't need somebody like Jeff to take her far in the game. Jun created an alliance with Allison once it got down to the final 4 which helped her.

It's hard to rank all the winner's because you can win Big Brother in so many ways. But I prefer the "active" winners rather than the "passive" winners.

[p_rushing]

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I can't believe Kevin, since he was the only one with a "live" question, didn't ask Jordan what move in the game did she make that Jeff didn't tell her to do.

Natalie lost this with her answers. She was a lot more active in the game. CBS even showed the whole lie to get Russell out and she didn't bring it up. Natalie just said everything the wrong way, she said the same thing as Jordan. She could have won the votes if she would have stated the things she did to get people out.

This was a bad season and CBS stepped in to save their ratings and made it worse.

What's the odds on Jordan losing the money because she doesn't know she needs to pay taxes, letting Jeff tell her what to do with it, etc.



I think there needs to be full disclosure before the show starts about what will happen, when it will happen, etc. That way CBS can't screw with the game to make people vote their way.

[ZB9]

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I can't believe Kevin, since he was the only one with a "live" question, didn't ask Jordan what move in the game did she make that Jeff didn't tell her to do.

Natalie lost this with her answers. She was a lot more active in the game. CBS even showed the whole lie to get Russell out and she didn't bring it up. Natalie just said everything the wrong way, she said the same thing as Jordan. She could have won the votes if she would have stated the things she did to get people out.

This was a bad season and CBS stepped in to save their ratings and made it worse.

What's the odds on Jordan losing the money because she doesn't know she needs to pay taxes, letting Jeff tell her what to do with it, etc.



I think there needs to be full disclosure before the show starts about what will happen, when it will happen, etc. That way CBS can't screw with the game to make people vote their way.

LOL what are you talking about? How did CBS screw with the game for Jordan to win? That makes absolutely no sense.

Kevin's HOH was obviously set up for him to win, getting out Jeff. There was no way the girls were going to beat Kevin at that HOH...and the final two comps were the same comps as every other season of BB, and were not set up for anyone.

Natalie lost the game because of her lie about her age, and because she only won one competition the entire game, compared to Jordan's 4 wins

anyway, the strongest player rarely wins BB, because the strongest player is targeted every week. All Jordan had to do was play better than both Nat and Kevin at the end. The two that she was going against were not exactly great competitors.

[P2K]

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Gnat's age lie had no effect on the game whatsoever.

Dude, a stray cat would've been a better winner than Jordan. Adorable as can be, but let's be real...she Rain Man'd to that 500K. If she was against better players, she would've had no shot. But, this was a lame *** final three and because of that, Jordan's odds went up big time. Good for her.

This season wasn't Big Brother...It was 'America's Favorite Sweethearts of the Dumb Kind'. Kevin confirmed how production wanted to things to go and they got what they wanted.

[ZB9]

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Gnat's age lie had no effect on the game whatsoever.

seems to me that it affected Lydia's vote, at the very least. Every time someone walked into the jury house, Nat's age lie was the first thing they talked about. It was obviously a factor.

Kevin confirmed how production wanted to things to go and they got what they wanted.

How did he confirm it? If production wanted it that way, they would have had a different HOH comp than the one Kevin won when Jeff couldnt compete. It was obvious that Kevin was going to win that HOH before it even started. The girls had no chance in that one.

If production wanted Jordan to win, they wouldnt have made that key HOH competition an athletic comp. If they wanted Jeff to win, they would have made the POV an athletic competition, instead of the merge o matic or whatever it's called.

As far as the final HOH, it was obviously not set up for anyone. It was the same as it has always been. I agree that Kevin played the best game out of the final three, but he wasnt as strong as what you seem to be implying or he would have been able to beat Jordan in the last question. Jordan answered it within one and Kevin missed it by 30.

anyway, none of the strongest players made it to the final 3. Michelle, Jessie, Jeff, and Russell were the best overall players imo. Contestants in BB these days are too familiar with how to play the game, and this season was about removing the biggest threats when possible. I bet next season they try to find people that have no idea about BB.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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Gnat's age lie had no effect on the game whatsoever.

Dude, a stray cat would've been a better winner than Jordan. Adorable as can be, but let's be real...she Rain Man'd to that 500K. If she was against better players, she would've had no shot. But, this was a lame *** final three and because of that, Jordan's odds went up big time. Good for her.

This season wasn't Big Brother...It was 'America's Favorite Sweethearts of the Dumb Kind'. Kevin confirmed how production wanted to things to go and they got what they wanted.

Agreed. While it wasn't rigged, it seemed like everything fell into place for either Jordan or Jeff to win it.

[p_rushing]

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LOL what are you talking about? How did CBS screw with the game for Jordan to win? That makes absolutely no sense.

by all of a sudden coming up with a power given by a fan vote

[jeremym480]

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by all of a sudden coming up with a power given by a fan vote

BB had to come up with a way for a 7th voye or else it could have been a 3 to 3 tie if only 6 were to vote. Not to mention, that in the end American's vote didn't matter anyway because she won 5-2.

[jake44np]

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by all of a sudden coming up with a power given by a fan vote

What are you talking about?
Americas vote didnt meen anything anyway, take away AV and it is still 4-2 Jordan.

[jeremym480]

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Agreed. While it wasn't rigged, it seemed like everything fell into place for either Jordan or Jeff to win it.

Explain to me how everything "fell into place" because last time I checked all the HoH's were pretty even. Also, how can you say that when Knat won THE 2nd from last HoH? Both Jordan and Michelle were up by one on the final question, they both missed it and Knat got it right to force the tie-breaker. How did CBS rig that for Jordan to win??

I admit the Jordan wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. But, she was smart to align with Jeff, Michelle and Russel because she would never be the main target as long as anyone of those were in the game. Plus, In the end she beat both Knat and Kevin head to head so she deserved to win, IMO.

On another note, I'm hoping next year they'll have a BB All-Stars.

[jake44np]

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Gnat's age lie had no effect on the game whatsoever.

Dude, a stray cat would've been a better winner than Jordan. Adorable as can be, but let's be real...she Rain Man'd to that 500K. If she was against better players, she would've had no shot. But, this was a lame *** final three and because of that, Jordan's odds went up big time. Good for her.

This season wasn't Big Brother...It was 'America's Favorite Sweethearts of the Dumb Kind'. Kevin confirmed how production wanted to things to go and they got what they wanted.

I couldnt disagree more!
Every time a new juror moved into the juror house it is the first thing that the other jurors brought up. Lydia come out and said the reason she voted for Jordan was because Gnat lied about her age. How can you possibly say it had no effect?