The Amazing Spider-Man (2012 film)

[SPTO]

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Looking at the pics BNG posted um....the red on the front is going to call attention to an unfortunate area dontcha think? I also don't like the see-thru eyes either. I think i've soured on the spidey costume they've got going right now.

As for the movies the first two were quite entertaining and I thought the first film actually showed quite a bit of heart and subtle emotionality that is often the hallmark of Spidey's best stories. The second movie was more of an action film but it delivered quite well. The problem with the 3rd movie was that it had one villain too many. They should've went with the symbiote or Sandman alone. The dancing Peter Parker scene was also quite embarrassing IMO.

I'm looking at this reboot very skeptically and if it's as bad as the trailer makes it out to be then I sure as hell hope it's a bust.

[Beantown]

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I also have to think that the Mirror's Edge type stuff would have to be in the movie wouldn't it? Why else would they go to all that effort?

I doubt that really took that much effort, for people a lot more talented at that kind of stuff than we are.

Also, it'd be a good idea for their initial teaser if they didn't want to risk showing off too much of the suit and action before its perfected and ready. I assume they'd be in bigger trouble if they showed actual footage of him running along in the suit and having people hate that.

[Jonesy]

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Yeah I guess so, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. That could be quite nauseating on a big screen, especially if they are going 3D like most big movies seem to.

I guess I just really dislike how when you watch this trailer the first bit about how he's in the lab and get's bitten and the transformation etc is virtually identical to the first Spidey movie which did a great job of it imo. To go through that whole bit again just scream's money grab which kinda annoys me. I guess at the end of the day the viewing public will decide if this sort of reboot of an already recent, well made and popular movie will fly which is kinda why I'm annoyed.

If this makes serious bank at the box office does that mean we'll see a heap more reboots of recently made movies which is even worse than pumping out countless sequels...

[SPTO]

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I guess I just really dislike how when you watch this trailer the first bit about how he's in the lab and get's bitten and the transformation etc is virtually identical to the first Spidey movie which did a great job of it imo. To go through that whole bit again just scream's money grab which kinda annoys me. I guess at the end of the day the viewing public will decide if this sort of reboot of an already recent, well made and popular movie will fly.

The problem is, unlike most comic book characters Spidey doesn't have an alternate origin that's vastly different to his original origin. We've seen a lot of variation on the origin stories of lots of other characters (mostly DC though some Marvel) whether it be cannon or not.

The only other origin that could possibly be thrown in would be an alternate take on the whole Clone Saga stuff and well, that's way too complicated and quite frankly stupid to put on film.

[The 24th Letter]

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Ha, this thread reminds me of the First Class thread...

[Jonesy]

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The problem is, unlike most comic book characters Spidey doesn't have an alternate origin that's vastly different to his original origin. We've seen a lot of variation on the origin stories of lots of other characters (mostly DC though some Marvel) whether it be cannon or not.

The only other origin that could possibly be thrown in would be an alternate take on the whole Clone Saga stuff and well, that's way too complicated and quite frankly stupid to put on film.

That's it right there. They aren't going to be able to be doing anything different or adding anything to the story so why bother doing it other than the $$$. Where it says in that quote "this isn't a replacement, it's another chapter" that's complete BS. This is a replacement in every sense of the word.

Ha, this thread reminds me of the First Class thread...

Which I loved fwiw

I guess Batman Begins was a reboot and that was sheer brilliance but it was coming after some purely crap movies so it could only improve on things. This on the other hand is coming after some of the better made (and financially huge) super hero movies.

Anyway that's enough out of me on the topic, will be happily proven wrong if this is awesome but I for one won't be seeing it at the cinema.

[Altimus]

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The problem is, unlike most comic book characters Spidey doesn't have an alternate origin that's vastly different to his original origin. We've seen a lot of variation on the origin stories of lots of other characters (mostly DC though some Marvel) whether it be cannon or not.

The only other origin that could possibly be thrown in would be an alternate take on the whole Clone Saga stuff and well, that's way too complicated and quite frankly stupid to put on film.

Could do the Ultimate origin.

[Burns11]

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Why do an origin at all? Just pick a spot in the life of Peter Parker to start at and go with it. Retelling the origin of Spiderman for the millionth time isn't necessary at all IMO.

[Blzer]

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Why do an origin at all? Just pick a spot in the life of Peter Parker to start at and go with it. Retelling the origin of Spiderman for the millionth time isn't necessary at all IMO.

Well, you don't know that for sure. Hopefully there's a bigger tie-in with the other Marvel films than a scene after the credits, at least that will justify the means for a reboot.

[BlueNGold]

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That's it right there. They aren't going to be able to be doing anything different or adding anything to the story so why bother doing it other than the $$$. Where it says in that quote "this isn't a replacement, it's another chapter" that's complete BS. This is a replacement in every sense of the word.

Which I loved fwiw

I guess Batman Begins was a reboot and that was sheer brilliance but it was coming after some purely crap movies so it could only improve on things. This on the other hand is coming after some of the better made (and financially huge) super hero movies.

Anyway that's enough out of me on the topic, will be happily proven wrong if this is awesome but I for one won't be seeing it at the cinema.

You kind of lost me with the bolded part. There's plenty they can do differently and they're doing so with this movie.

Also, technically this is the same situation as the Batman reboot because Spider-Man 3 was pretty close to Batman & Robin level terrible. The only difference is this is without the 10 years or so wait it took for Batman Begins to come out after the last movie.

This isn't at all "the same story". I don't know where that's coming from. The only similarity is that the origin story is the same in that he gets bitten by a spider and becomes Spider-Man.

[Jonesy]

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You kind of lost me with the bolded part. There's plenty they can do differently and they're doing so with this movie.

Also, technically this is the same situation as the Batman reboot because Spider-Man 3 was pretty close to Batman & Robin level terrible. The only difference is this is without the 10 years or so wait it took for Batman Begins to come out after the last movie.

This isn't at all "the same story". I don't know where that's coming from. The only similarity is that the origin story is the same in that he gets bitten by a spider and becomes Spider-Man.

I don't see how you can't see how there could be a massive part of this movie that is a complete rehash?

Yes it might have a different villain / storyline but if they are going to go right into the whole 'get's bitten by spider / transformation to spidey' sequence for a good portion of the film then we've been there, done that in 2002.

[BlueNGold]

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I don't see how you can't see how there could be a massive part of this movie that is a complete rehash?

Yes it might have a different villain / storyline but if they are going to go right into the whole 'get's bitten by spider / transformation to spidey' sequence for a good portion of the film then we've been there, done that in 2002.

So they're just supposed to leave out how Spider-Man becomes Spider-Man? Why do that? If you're re-telling a story, do you leave out the beginning, or tell the whole thing?

Also, the origin is different in that Peter's parents are involved (they were mentioned in the book for the original movie, but never involved in the trilogy itself), it has Gwen Stacy and not Mary Jane (that alone changes a big portion of things), and the entire movie is based on Peter in high school, not just half an hour like the original Raimi movie.

From what I've read, this movie is much more like the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, whereas the Raimi movies were more based off the original Stan Lee/Steve Ditko comics.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I never thought about that possible aspect/dimension, as far as the high school angle. That could be interesting if that's the direction.

In the recent trilogy they really didn't focus on the school life/social life at all. Everything was glossed over to be honest. That's what sort of lost me in that series. Everything just seemed microwaved, even though I did enjoy the first two films.

[sven]

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I'll watch this just for Emma Stone. I love her.

[Blzer]

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So they're just supposed to leave out how Spider-Man becomes Spider-Man? Why do that? If you're re-telling a story, do you leave out the beginning, or tell the whole thing?

To be fair, they flew right over Bruce Banner's gamma radiation experiment and how he became the uncontrollable monster that he is in The Incredible Hulk.

If they can tell a good story without it, I can see a lot of people not minding the "becoming of" portion being left out if it still makes sense.