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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
Again, still waiting on something more than a hypothetical statement and some cute pictures. Compare processor, wireless speed and user experience while browsing the web.
I'm not going on Apple's word, I'm going by what I've seen from their product and my experience with mobile safari. Better than any experience I've had with a netbook, and why I still don't own one.
I've already said it's over-priced but you can say that for many things - a Lexus is an over-priced Toyota, Sony's TV's are over-priced, etc. The only thing I've even seen remotely close was Alienware's just announced netbook. Even then, it's $300 more for a device that doesn't fit the needs of some and isn't as enjoyable. And no optical media drive as well. You can point to cheap clearance laptops from NewEgg... and we're still back at square one - the user experience.
Why is the user experience so much better? Because its touchscreen? The Lexus/Toyota or Sony/Other TV comparison doesnt work because in this case the former does things better than the latter. Thats not the case here.
Its arguable that this is easier to carry than most netbooks. Netbooks can run Itunes just like the iPad. A netbook has several things an Ipad doesnt (more memory, usb, physical keyboard). I dont share your experience with netbooks. From the ones I've seen, they work just as well as laptops that I've owned.
I just dont get how anyone can justify the price. Everybody keeps pointing at the $499 price point but thats not realistic. Nobody is going to buy the 16GB (Actually 14GB of usable memory) version if they plan to use this device to even half its capability (Ebooks, music, movies). Most will buy the 32GB at $599.
Also, you keep talking about people just using this as an internet device. If someone is just using any device as just a way to access the internet, that probably means they arent computer savvy. If they arent computer savvy, that probably means that they are more cost conscious then your average person. When faced with buying a netbook for $200-299 or an iPad $500-600, that person is going to go with the much cheaper choice. This isnt a difference between $25-50. This is a $200-300 difference during a recession.Comment
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
Yeah...it's just a tad pricey for what it does right now...plus you can't listen to pandora or whatnot and surf the web and whatnot.Also, you keep talking about people just using this as an internet device. If someone is just using any device as just a way to access the internet, that probably means they arent computer savvy. If they arent computer savvy, that probably means that they are more cost conscious then your average person. When faced with buying a netbook for $200-299 or an iPad $500-600, that person is going to go with the much cheaper choice. This isnt a difference between $25-50. This is a $200-300 difference during a recession.
I'm interested in a year or two when the 64 GB one drops in price and adds all the features that this version should have had.Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
It may appeal more in the future but right now
That price is the main thing that sticks out at the average consumer
Couple that with the fact that it really doesn't do much that isnt already out there, its not really revolutionary.
I can see apple loyals and maybe a few who want to check it out but again the masses arent really clamoring for a giant ipod. E-reader and all, I just dont see the reason a person would abandon their kindle for this.Comment
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
Why is the user experience so much better? Because its touchscreen? The Lexus/Toyota or Sony/Other TV comparison doesnt work because in this case the former does things better than the latter. Thats not the case here.
Its arguable that this is easier to carry than most netbooks. Netbooks can run Itunes just like the iPad. A netbook has several things an Ipad doesnt (more memory, usb, physical keyboard). I dont share your experience with netbooks. From the ones I've seen, they work just as well as laptops that I've owned.
I just dont get how anyone can justify the price. Everybody keeps pointing at the $499 price point but thats not realistic. Nobody is going to buy the 16GB (Actually 14GB of usable memory) version if they plan to use this device to even half its capability (Ebooks, music, movies). Most will buy the 32GB at $599.
Also, you keep talking about people just using this as an internet device. If someone is just using any device as just a way to access the internet, that probably means they arent computer savvy. If they arent computer savvy, that probably means that they are more cost conscious then your average person. When faced with buying a netbook for $200-299 or an iPad $500-600, that person is going to go with the much cheaper choice. This isnt a difference between $25-50. This is a $200-300 difference during a recession.
It's more than it being a touch screen. Rendering, speed and readability are all things to take into consideration.
The price is certainly something to consider. But it was an issue back in 2001 as well. Early adopters will always pay a premium, just like iPhone buyers did. $600 for a cell phone..? Really? Still sold millions.
Not being "computer-savvy" and cost conscious do not always go hand-in-hand. 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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
Plus one thing no one is mentioning is the actual layout of the device. With it being flat its much more conducive to watching tv, doing other tasks, etc with a flat design to sit beside you, on your lap or in front of you and not intrude on what you're doing vs. the clamshell design of current laptops and netbooks. That is one aspect of the iPad i think is very nice.
I bring this up because I know it's much easier for me to lie in bed and surf and do other stuff on my ipod touch than it is my macbook air. laptops and netbooks are better used when you are simply working on the computer and doing nothing else whereas this devices design lends itself much much better to using it while multi-tasking.Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
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Haha... I don't want to know what sort of multi-tasking you will be doing in bed with this device.I bring this up because I know it's much easier for me to lie in bed and surf and do other stuff on my ipod touch than it is my macbook air. laptops and netbooks are better used when you are simply working on the computer and doing nothing else whereas this devices design lends itself much much better to using it while multi-tasking.
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
I don't know, man. Seems like viewing angles would be skewed if you have it laying flat. You'd have to be holding it to have the screen be facing you, if you get what I mean.Plus one thing no one is mentioning is the actual layout of the device. With it being flat its much more conducive to watching tv, doing other tasks, etc with a flat design to sit beside you, on your lap or in front of you and not intrude on what you're doing vs. the clamshell design of current laptops and netbooks. That is one aspect of the iPad i think is very nice.
I bring this up because I know it's much easier for me to lie in bed and surf and do other stuff on my ipod touch than it is my macbook air. laptops and netbooks are better used when you are simply working on the computer and doing nothing else whereas this devices design lends itself much much better to using it while multi-tasking.
With my laptop, all I have to do is set it down somewhere flat, and tilt the screen. Then it's so simple to be doing something else (gaming, watching TV, etc) and then just glance at the screen which is at the perfect angle to read.Comment
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
The problems with the comparisons to the iPhone and the iPod is that there was a defined niche for both of those devices. Wanna listen to music? Get an iPod. Want to call friends on an Apple phone? Get an iPhone. They were vast improvements of already existing technology that people used day in, day out.
Right now, I'm kind of failing to see the niche that the iPad fits into. Netbooks haven't taken hold because of the same reason. I'm not saying that a niche can't form, but I honestly don't see it.Rose City 'Til I Die
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
The ones I saw were at Best Buy. That had quite a bit under $500. 320Gb HD, 3g memory. There is not one spec on the pad that is better, other than being made by Apple. I love Apple, but all the blind followers would jump off a bridge if Jobs told them too. It is a "cool" gadget. Some people act like this is some great invention. This is nothing more than a large iPod touch with iWork. I'll stick with my 13" MBP. When they make a tablet with a real OS on it and more memory then I would consider one.My Fan Page http://theusualgamer.net/MyFanPage_Heelfan71.aspx
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Re: Apple media event - 1/27
Just want to clear something up that people are saying here, and could get confusing if people don't read the whole context of the thread.
The main complaint isn't about 16GB memory- because that would be incredibly huge.
The complaint is about 16/32/64GB storage.
Sorry for being anal, just wanted to clear things up.Comment


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