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  • MassNole
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    • Mar 2006
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    TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

    <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20100525/NEWS01/100525017/1320/Bing-TV-crews-banned-from-police-raids">Bing: TV crews banned from police raids | freep.com | Detroit Free Press</a>

    Apparently they don't believe in the First Amendment in Detroit. Yes what happened was awful, but well at the end of the day this should get shot down really quickly as a gross violation of Freedom of the Press (which sadly reality programming falls under).
  • p_rushing
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
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    #2
    Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

    This says nothing about "press" it appears to only affect reality tv shows and their production crews. Any time you have a producer telling you they want to see such and such, this is never a good idea.

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    • MassNole
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      • Mar 2006
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      #3
      Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

      Reality television crews are press.

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      • HealyMonster
        Titans Era has begun.
        • Aug 2002
        • 5992

        #4
        Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

        This is why things are the way they are. Lack of Leadership.

        Bing wasn’t aware of the city’s relationship with the cable network’s TV show until after the May 16 raid, she said.
        A city that has been through as much as Detroit has been through, you would think their politicians would be like crazy about every detail, but nah. business as usual.

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        • deaduck
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          • Mar 2009
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          #5
          Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

          Freedom of the press doesn't supercede public safety.

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          • Cebby
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            • Apr 2005
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            #6
            Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

            I don't think banning a television show from filming police is a violation of freedom of the press.

            If it was you could follow someone around all day with a camera and claim a violation of the first amendment if someone stopped you.

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            • MassNole
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              • Mar 2006
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              Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

              Originally posted by Cebby
              I don't think banning a television show from filming police is a violation of freedom of the press.

              If it was you could follow someone around all day with a camera and claim a violation of the first amendment if someone stopped you.
              The 9th Circuit has held (or is very easily extrapolated from the text) that film crews from documentary type shows constitute protection as they are members of the press. The Courts don't like defining Press, but a show like First 48 is much more easily going to be afforded that protection then say Real Housewives of Detroit, which would well likely catch the other side of a police raid.

              And if you wanted to so long as someone was in a public place you could follow them around with a camera all day long, as there is no reasonable expectation of privacy when out in public. If you followed them it into a private place, such as their residence then you cross the line/

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              • Mo
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                Originally posted by Cebby
                I don't think banning a television show from filming police is a violation of freedom of the press.

                If it was you could follow someone around all day with a camera and claim a violation of the first amendment if someone stopped you.
                Isnt this what paparazzi do?
                Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                • SuperBowlNachos
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 10218

                  #9
                  Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                  I wouldn't think it is illegal to prohibit your police force from being these peoples personal escorts around town.

                  It would be like when Cops was filmed in Dallas and the police were just chauffers for the camera crew.

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                  • bgeno
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4321

                    #10
                    Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                    Originally posted by Cebby
                    I don't think banning a television show from filming police is a violation of freedom of the press.

                    If it was you could follow someone around all day with a camera and claim a violation of the first amendment if someone stopped you.
                    But aren't police departments different than just the average joe on the street?

                    I mean, there are taxpayer dollars at work, so I think it is a case of the press policing politics and public entities. That's different than just following someone around with a camera. I'm not sure how to word it, and I may be wrong on some terminology, but I think you get what I'm trying to say.
                    Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                    How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                    • deaduck
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                      • Mar 2009
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                      Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                      Originally posted by MassNole
                      The 9th Circuit has held (or is very easily extrapolated from the text) that film crews from documentary type shows constitute protection as they are members of the press. The Courts don't like defining Press, but a show like First 48 is much more easily going to be afforded that protection then say Real Housewives of Detroit, which would well likely catch the other side of a police raid.

                      And if you wanted to so long as someone was in a public place you could follow them around with a camera all day long, as there is no reasonable expectation of privacy when out in public. If you followed them it into a private place, such as their residence then you cross the line/

                      But even documentary crews aren't immune from being prohibited in dangerous situations or times where their presence constitutes an endangerment of public safety.

                      No freedom of speech ruling over rides that.

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                      • sb24
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                        • Dec 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                        What are the tv crews doing to endanger public safety?

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                        • MassNole
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                          Originally posted by deaduck
                          But even documentary crews aren't immune from being prohibited in dangerous situations or times where their presence constitutes an endangerment of public safety.

                          No freedom of speech ruling over rides that.
                          It is a much, much steeper hill to climb to say they endanger public safety than you think. Conversely a police raid easily constitutes breaking news, of which they have the right to cover. I really think any argument that they pose a legitimate danger to public safety will be too attenuated to win.

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                          • snepp
                            We'll waste him too.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 10007

                            #14
                            Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                            Originally posted by sb24
                            What are the tv crews doing to endanger public safety?

                            Influencing the actions of those in charge most certainly can endanger others.
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                            • Kanobi
                              H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                              • Apr 2003
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                              #15
                              Re: TV Crews Banned from Police Raids in Detroit

                              So it's the 1st 48 crew's fault that the police flash bombed and shot a 7-yr old girl, killing her in her sleep?

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