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Like I said earlier in the thread. I'm not arguing whether being from other planets are visiting us. That's another issue.
My replies are solely arguing what SS is saying in regards to deep space flight being IMPOSSIBLE.....ever.
Unless of course he is McFly....he has know way of knowing what technology will be around in the next 100 years.
I hate to reiterate(but I will
)...but in the 1850's .....100 years before the space program...man had not even flew yet. Fast forward to 1876 when the Wright brothers flew a manned plane. Did anyone then envision the Apollo Space Program? You would have been laughed at. Could they even envision JET engine flight? Hardly.
My point is more in when a field is heavily R&D'ed....advances come.
Voyager 1 is close to the edge of our known solar system.....so obviously even with nearly 50 y.o. tech....we can leave our planetary system.
I just can't relate to people who use these two words. ALWAYS and NEVER. It's the first two words you should throw out of your vocabulary...as a definite. Probable or unlikely should be their replacements.
M.K.
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I can't tell if your being serious, but if you are, come on you know exactly what he meant, if not, then LOL, good one(eyes roll)Last edited by dossier; 09-10-2010, 07:36 PM.Comment
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A fundamental law of physics (parity) may have been broken.
IF true, then like Knight says. How can anyone say "never", "always" or any other finite term.Comment
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At this point I'm not sure what you're arguing except that you refuse to believe the airtight theory of general relativity which gives you no leg to stand on because it's not a rational argument.Like I said earlier in the thread. I'm not arguing whether being from other planets are visiting us. That's another issue.
My replies are solely arguing what SS is saying in regards to deep space flight being IMPOSSIBLE.....ever.
Unless of course he is McFly....he has know way of knowing what technology will be around in the next 100 years.
I hate to reiterate(but I will)...but in the 1850's .....100 years before the space program...man had not even flew yet. Fast forward to 1876 when the Wright brothers flew a manned plane. Did anyone then envision the Apollo Space Program? You would have been laughed at. Could they even envision JET engine flight? Hardly.
My point is more in when a field is heavily R&D'ed....advances come.
Voyager 1 is close to the edge of our known solar system.....so obviously even with nearly 50 y.o. tech....we can leave our planetary system.
I just can't relate to people who use these two words. ALWAYS and NEVER. It's the first two words you should throw out of your vocabulary...as a definite. Probable or unlikely should be their replacements.
M.K.
Knight165
Jet propulsion engines were developed in the early 20th century based on Issac Newton's thoery of universal gravitation and the 3 laws of motion. Newton devised these mathematical theories in 1687, about 250 years before we developed jet propulsion engines. The physics and scientific understanding of it was there for 250 years it just took awhile to develop but at no time was it considered impossible to build flying machines because doing so did not break any of Newton's laws of motion. Newton's laws of motion won't get changed later because they might be wrong. It's a scientific and mathematical fact and not up for debate and today's jet engines show this.
What you seem to be implying is Einstein's theory of general relatively might somehow be wrong and that some future technology will prove this and we will be able to travel anywhere we want in the universe using light speed or much faster than light speed (it would have to be alot faster, light speed just won't do it). That's like saying although it's proven today that hamburgers come from cows sometime in the future humans will prove it came from another animal because we got smarter.
Einsteins' thoery is taken as sceintific fact. His space\time theory has been proven over and over. When manned vehicles go into space for several months, thier clocks show that when they travel time slows down from time on Earth. Satellites in space have clocks that run faster then clocks on earth because it has to match the time in the ground or everybody using thier GPS would be getting wrong directions because it would be inaccurate. Even a few seconds difference between both would result in your GPS being off several miles every day. This is due to Einstein's space\time theory.
This same theory (which is very complex, that E=MC squared is not quite as easy at it looks, Einstein did not get that equation during a walk in the park one Sunday afternoon) also states you need infinite mass and energy to travel the speed of light because only massless objects can do that now like a ray of light. So if you have any spaceship with mass it has to be infinite as a byproduct of needing infinate energy to move it that fast. You cannot build a vehicle that has infinite mass. It's simply impossible that even a 10 year could see. And since it would be rather difficult to travel on a ray of light while at the same time making yourself massless to ride that ray of light then we're right back to that infinate mass and energy quandry again.
When an example is made about people thinking the world was flat and thus proven false is again misguided. It wasn't the scientific or philisophical community (Aristotle 1500 years before opined the world was round) as did many other famous historic figures before 1492. It was mainly the religious community which is hardly known for it's forward thinking. Again watching too many movies makes people think that Columbas and Spain's royal family were the only people around back then. It was a viewpoint born of ignorance by a segment of society because they had never viewed the other side of the world and they believed what they wanted to beleive, much like UFO sightings today.
We are not ignorant about the universe nor are we ignorant about the concept of speed. We have viewed many deep space images from the Hubble. Everything about the thoery of relatively has proven correct and enables to do what we do in space now because it has allowed us to understand the concept of time and space. So will the thoery be proven wrong or inaccurate anytime soon as our technology increases and we get smarter? That would be a big fat NO. It's proven just like it's proven that we need oxygen to breathe. There's nothing in the theory that can be proven wrong.
The theory of general relativity hasn't been considered the most important scientific discovery of all time on a whim. It lets us understand everything about time, space and movement which is kinda important in the grand scheme of things.Last edited by Seymour Scagnetti; 09-11-2010, 10:16 AM.Comment
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Just gonna throw this out there, but Stephen Hawking thinks UFO's could exist. I'm with the guy in the comfy chairComment
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But you're assuming they have the same technology as us. With our tech level, we can't do hardly anything in space. If an alien civilization was made 1,000,000 years before ours, then it certainly is possible that they have far superior tech levelsComment
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i can't wait until it is undoubtedly true that aliens exist. That will change everything.
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That popcorn eating icon actually made me crave popcorn...
Brb.Comment
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I like the "creepy" pre-text there haha. I wonder if anybody has any "heart-warming" alien stories like about that time the alien boy next door helped you up after you wrecked your bike in the street.
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