Prime Time Network Television Ratings (Will Your Show Survive?)

[bkfount]

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Per TVTattle.com

Another excellent programming decision from the Fox network. Rumor is Lie to Me may come back much sooner than it's original November debut, which is weird because it had its season finale just a couple weeks ago.

I never cared to watch Lone Star, but I wonder why a show seemingly better suited for cable was aired on broadcast tv anyways. Even something like Mad Men would bomb to the fickle, dumbed down network tv audience.

[Burns11]

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Is it a fickle, dumbed down network TV audience that would make Mad Men "bomb", or would it be fickle, dumbed down network TV executives that would bomb the show? Lone Star got better ratings than Mad Men ever has.

[OSUFan_88]

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You've got to remember that Fox is the same network that cancelled 24 after having it's best season in many years.

FOX is horrible, they are very stupid when it comes to their shows. Plus, the time slot after House is not a good time...most people switch to the MNF game.

[MassNole]

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You've got to remember that Fox is the same network that cancelled 24 after having it's best season in many years.

FOX is horrible, they are very stupid when it comes to their shows. Plus, the time slot after House is not a good time...most people switch to the MNF game.

IMO Fox is the quickest network to pull a plug on a show. When Cheers debuted it was one of the lowest rated shows that week, maybe the second or third lowest. But NBC stuck with it and the show's quality drew in the audience. The same can be said for The Wonder Years, despite debuting after the Super Bowl had low ratings and was nearly axed.

[CMH]

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I wouldn't be surprised if Lone Star gets a bump (not a big one because how many will watch now that it is canceled) when it airs on Fridays. I doubt it'll bring the show back, but it's just unfortunate.

The creator of the series is also the writer behind "The Beaver" a comedy feature starring Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster (also directing). Read the script and it was hilarious. But, I also feel that most people just won't get it.

[MassNole]

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I wouldn't be surprised if Lone Star gets a bump (not a big one because how many will watch now that it is canceled) when it airs on Fridays. I doubt it'll bring the show back, but it's just unfortunate.

The creator of the series is also the writer behind "The Beaver" a comedy feature starring Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster (also directing). Read the script and it was hilarious. But, I also feel that most people just won't get it.

If I ran Fox I would put a right of first refusal clause to let FX pickup a show. As previously said Lone Star was more suited for FX than network TV.

[thaima1shu]

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I hope Hawaii Five-O doesn't get axed, I actually kind of like it.

Agreed. I've really enjoyed the first two episodes. Hopefully it can stick around.

[OSUFan_88]

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IMO Fox is the quickest network to pull a plug on a show. When Cheers debuted it was one of the lowest rated shows that week, maybe the second or third lowest. But NBC stuck with it and the show's quality drew in the audience. The same can be said for The Wonder Years, despite debuting after the Super Bowl had low ratings and was nearly axed.

They have absolutely not patience for their shows to develop a fanbase. Look how many times they cancelled Family Guy. They cancelled 24. King of the Hill. I'm surprised they haven't cancelled the Simpsons yet...

It's stunning that FOX and FX are the same brand.

[CMH]

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Tuesday September 28, 2010

CBS
Last season's big hit The Good Wife premiered at 19% less than its first season opener.
Both NCIS and NCIS: LA remained two of the strongest shows on television drawing no less than 16 million viewers (NCIS drew 19 million).

NBC
The network had 2 hours of The Biggest Loser and fell to a 2.7 rating.
Parenthood had the lowest rated original episode in its two seasons dropping 17% from last week.

ABC
No Ordinary Family had the biggest premiere of any series on the network this season drawing a 3.1. Not particularly strong, but good enough for third, even picking up viewers as the hour went on.
Dancing With The Stars: Results fell to a 3.7 and Detroit 1-87 finds itself in danger slipping 4% from last week, a 2.2 for the night.

FOX
Comedy hit Glee had Britney Spears and a 4% push to a 5.8.
Raising Hope looks like an early favorite with a 3.2.
Running Wilde, however, fell 13% from last week to a 2.1

CW
One Tree Hill 1.6 women and Life Unexpected 1.1 women were both down from last week.



*All ratings are adult 18-49 unless otherwise specified.

[MassNole]

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Ouch I guess Running Wilde will be moving to Fridays soon.

[CMH]

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If I ran Fox I would put a right of first refusal clause to let FX pickup a show. As previously said Lone Star was more suited for FX than network TV.

I don't understand why Fox hasn't considered this option yet. I've wondered for a couple years now. Lone Star would likely do well on cable. At least on cable, no one would worry about 3 million viewers. Likely wouldn't draw that many, but even slightly less than a million is good for cable.

[SPTO]

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Two And A Half Men has been renewed through at least the 2011-2012 season, and looks to be cancellation proof beyond that. It will end when Sheen decides to call it quits.

I guess they better rename it Three Men now.....I somehow have the feeling Sheen will hang on to this and we'll see him doing this show when he's 70. "groan"


About FOX, I don't know how that network gets any goodwill from show creators and producers. It's hard to believe this was the same network that fostered a ton of creativity in the early to mid '90s, kept America's Most Wanted on the air despite low ratings and has shown a commitment to animated programming. In a lot of ways once FOX got into the sports business it seems they've got things backwards using sports as the driving force of the network rather then their own television shows.

[CMH]

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I should note an error. No Ordinary Family's premiere isn't the biggest on the network. It is the biggest new show on the network.

[Bellsprout]

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They have absolutely not patience for their shows to develop a fanbase. Look how many times they cancelled Family Guy. They cancelled 24. King of the Hill. I'm surprised they haven't cancelled the Simpsons yet...

It's stunning that FOX and FX are the same brand.

They gave Arrested Development 3 years.

I'm not saying that all of a sudden proves they aren't impatient, just pointing out an exception to the rule.

In a related note: ****. I didn't like Running Wilde's chances anyways. If Arrested was never successful, this had no shot. Still, I was sort of digging it.

[CMH]

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Ouch I guess Running Wilde will be moving to Fridays soon.

As I've been watching this and becoming a bit more well-versed in the nature of film and television demographics (considering it affects my hopeful career choice), I've begun to notice a trend with television.

Notice the shows that people watch.

Raising Hope.
NCIS
No Ordinary Family

Just from last night.

Then consider shows like:

Running Wilde
Detroit 1-87.

It would seem that Detroit 1-87 should match the NCIS audience, but they really aren't the same show. One of the things I've been learning as well is that audience's don't really respond to genres. Running Wilde is a comedy, but so is Raising Hope. Why aren't the same audiences tuning in?

Running Wilde has an Arrested Development feel to me. Not the same comedy, but the same comedic goal. Whereas Raising Hope is pushing a very different comedy. It feels almost Malcom In The Middle like. Or Two And A Half Men.

Anyway, I'm not the best at writing my thoughts out on this particular topic. Not sure I'm really pushing across what I see so others can understand.