68th Annual Golden Globe Nominations

[Bellsprout]

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TV nominations/wins are purely political. 30 Rock was winning everything in sight for some time, despite being a pretty average show, simply because of its connection to the "inside" world of television, and Tina Fey being heavily connected as well. If not for that, the show wouldn't have won a thing. I doubt it even be nominated. You can seriously say that show is a better comedy than It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Curb Your Enthusiasm? Huh?

30 Rock is phenomenal. I'd only put it behind Community on my list of comedies still on TV.

[JayBee74]

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30 Rock is phenomenal. I'd only put it behind Community on my list of comedies still on TV.

I'm a big fan, but wouldn't rate it over Curb Your Enthusiasm or It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Community lost me after some early episodes, but I probably didn't give it a fair shake.

[CMH]

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I don't understand most award shows anyway. In the beginning of 2010 I was hearing about movies like 127 Hours and The Social Network. Not to say they're bad at all (in fact they're quite very good), but when people already start saying, "It's supposed to be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars," that just doesn't make sense. .

Advanced screenings/press copies.

These movies are being watched by reviewers and voters months before you even see it in theaters.

So when someone says: This film is supposed to be nominated for Best Picture, it's because the voters have already made that decision based on the advanced screenings they watch.

They have to do this because votes/nominations are supposed to be in before these movies* begin to hit theaters.


*By these movies I'm talking about the ones that are released in the late fall/winter.

As an example: I had an advanced copy of "I Love You Philip Morris" since February of this year. That movie just came out a month ago.

[CMH]

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TV nominations/wins are purely political. 30 Rock was winning everything in sight for some time, despite being a pretty average show, simply because of its connection to the "inside" world of television, and Tina Fey being heavily connected as well. If not for that, the show wouldn't have won a thing. I doubt it even be nominated. You can seriously say that show is a better comedy than It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Curb Your Enthusiasm? Huh?

The only reason Mad Men wins anything is because of Weiner's influence amongst TV people. It's not a knock on the show at all, as its a tremendous show and SHOULD be nominated and winning all kinds of things. It's just that nobody would even take notice if it were made by someone who doesn't know people.

Look at David Simon. He made two of the greatest shows in history, the Wire being arguably the greatest show of all time, the Emmys/Globes didn't recognize him or that show in any way. I don't believe it received one nomination for Best Drama during its entire run. Because A) he was doing material the media strays away from and B) He's not connected like others.

While you are likely right, that's the way it works in everything in life.

The best way in is to network. David Simon knows what field he got himself into. If he somehow doesn't like that The Wire never got nominations, then he has the option to do something about it and get friendly with the people that make those decisions.

Many will say it shouldn't work that way, but the reality is that all votes and nominations, no matter the field/category, is going to weigh heavily on influence. "Did I watch it?" "Do I know people that talk about it?" "Do I know the inside of how this show is made?"

Take 30 Rock, as you mentioned. Those voters know how the show is made, have access to the head writer and star, and as a result get in-depth views on the development of it. People are naturally inclined to like something they have an in-depth look into.

[Beantown]

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Nothing to do with the thread topic -

But thanks, *******s, for bringing up David Simon and making me want to watch the Wire. Season Three here I come.

[CMH]

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Here's an excerpt from The Hollywood Reporter regarding How To Win at these award shows.

Can The Fighter possibly win the Oscar for best picture?

On the surface, the movie -- based on the true story of junior welterweight "Irish" Micky Ward's battle to earn a championship title -- has a massive amount going against it. For one thing, it entered the game oh-so-late, screening for the first time Nov. 10 as an AFI Fest sneak. For another, it inevitably will be compared to boxing classics like Rockyand Raging Bull. For a third, director David O. Russell (Three Kings) is hardly Mr. Popular -- he's famous for getting into fights with the likes of George Clooney.

But the picture, from Paramount, Relativity and Mandeville Films, not only has a good chance of getting nominated, it could even win -- if it follows the right strategy. Here's how:

1. Play to the voters
Among the Academy's 5,770 voting members, 1,184 are actors. Never underestimate them. Lionsgate certainly didn't four years ago, and its bold decision to send DVDs of Crashto all 100,000-plus SAG members in advance of Oscar balloting helped sway that crowd, leading to a best picture upset over Brokeback Mountain. With arguably the best ensemble cast of any movie this year -- led by Mark Wahlberg, Christian Bale, Melissa Leo and Amy Adams, all with shots at nominations -- the picture should follow Crash's strategy of winning over the thespians, using them to help position it as the underdog when bigger titles have played out.