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02-14-2011, 01:27 PM

Re: Jeopardy: The IBM Challenge

I've been looking forward to this for a long time.
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02-14-2011, 01:27 PM

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Very interesting.

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02-14-2011, 01:28 PM

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Yeah, this should be really interesting to watch.
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02-14-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by SqueakyD

NOVA had a neat documentary last week on the initial Watson auditions in front of the Jeopardy execs... He/it stumbled on the Final Jeop answer :

He replied "What is the Sept 11, 2001 attacks?"... The programmers realized that Watson didn't understand what the word motto was and just looked up key info on the word terrorism. The computer got a ton of hits on the attacks and thought it was most likely the correct answer.

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Awesome. Good to know.

That gives it a sense of humanity. However, if the engineers continually modify the algorithm to fix these "errors" you potentially have a system that can never be wrong, unless you add in room for error.


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02-14-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

Awesome. Good to know.

That gives it a sense of humanity. However, if the engineers continually modify the algorithm to fix these "errors" you potentially have a system that can never be wrong, unless you add in room for error.

I don't see why it should ever be wrong. Watson on Jeopardy is the tip of the iceberg here. You can use this technology to quickly, easily, and accurately answer questions from anyone. A medical professional gives Watson a few symptoms and a patient history: instant diagnosis that he can use as a jump-off point. This wasn't just built as a Jeopardy playing machine. This is a machine that has legitimate real-world uses.

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02-14-2011, 01:59 PM

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02-14-2011, 02:04 PM

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Yeah, I'm interested in this. Been looking forward to it for awhile.

I'll be rooting for the humans, though I think Watson will win.

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02-14-2011, 02:18 PM

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Watching the first video, you see those screens where it shows top three answer possibilities and that "correct" percentage. Is that a screen showing what Watson is going off of, or is that something that's always on Jeopardy from a survey or something in the audience? I was just wondering what that screen was.

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02-14-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Blzer

Watching the first video, you see those screens where it shows top three answer possibilities and that "correct" percentage. Is that a screen showing what Watson is going off of, or is that something that's always on Jeopardy from a survey or something in the audience? I was just wondering what that screen was.

Fairly sure that's the confidence level of the potential answers that Watson finds.
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02-14-2011, 02:25 PM

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Fairly sure that's the confidence level of the potential answers that Watson finds.

Yeah. It's not something that comes up on Jeopardy, so I imagine it's something so the audience knows what Watson picked, vs what other possibilities he had.

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02-14-2011, 02:31 PM

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Fairly sure that's the confidence level of the potential answers that Watson finds.

I am fairly sure you are correct.

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02-14-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

Thanks for posting SD.

I wonder if this thing is capable of answering incorrectly...

If it is, they'd just program it with some rubber band AI
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02-14-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by The GIGGAS

I don't see why it should ever be wrong. Watson on Jeopardy is the tip of the iceberg here. You can use this technology to quickly, easily, and accurately answer questions from anyone. A medical professional gives Watson a few symptoms and a patient history: instant diagnosis that he can use as a jump-off point. This wasn't just built as a Jeopardy playing machine. This is a machine that has legitimate real-world uses.

The problem is, via its algorithm's it is never wrong. But based on the english language (unless it's bilingual? ha.) it is quite capable of being wrong.

There's an example on this thread alone.

I'm more curious in its humanistic characteristics, meaning is it capable of formulating an answer instantaneously as opposed to never, or if their algorithm is far more advanced.

With the hardware used this thing would potentially just answer the question immediately or never answer.


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02-14-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

The problem is, via its algorithm's it is never wrong. But based on the english language (unless it's bilingual? ha.) it is quite capable of being wrong.

There's an example on this thread alone.

I'm more curious in its humanistic characteristics, meaning is it capable of formulating an answer instantaneously as opposed to never, or if their algorithm is far more advanced.

With the hardware used this thing would potentially just answer the question immediately or never answer.

In the NOVA video Speedy posted, Watson answers after one of the human contestants answers. One of the humans answers incorrectly "What is Mosquito". Thereafter, Watson answers "What is Mosquito". While they apparently fixed the bug so that Watson does not repeat incorrect answers from other contestants, it does seem to indicate that Watson does not always answer the question instantaneously (though for almost all of the other examples I've seen of it answering questions, it seems they are instantaneous).

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02-14-2011, 03:20 PM

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Man, couple this with the Time article on the Singularity and it seems we aren't that far off from becoming fuel for the machines.

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