Re: Google Music
They declined the case. The case isn't about the legality of downloading its about compensation.
They declined the case. The case isn't about the legality of downloading its about compensation.
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Re: Google Music
Right, but the Supreme Court made no official ruling on the case. They simply reviewed it, noticed that ASCAP is bat-**** crazy with greed and declined to have it brought before them. No matter the case, the ruling has nothing to do with the right and wrongs of file-sharing and "illegal" downloading.
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Re: Google Music
If I'm reading things correctly, Google WILL take files down if a copyright holder requests it. How Google would know if something was acquired 'unethically' is anyone's guess but they probably have algorithms for that.
Personally, I don't have a problem with that as long as it doesn't affect my other Google accounts (email, Plus, YouTube, etc.).
Other people seem to have uploaded such files but I don't know if they have run into any problems.Comment
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Re: Google Music
Agreed the SC did nothing, but by not hearing the case, they then leave the earlier ruling in a lower court upheld, which deemed that ASCAP cannot get loyalties for someone downloading music, as by definition the music is not being played (definition of payable work) and therefore cannot be given royalties for mere downloading.
So with that, you are correct, there is no legal ruling that states that 'illegal' downloading is now legal. But it does give credence that ASCAP will not be able to force those websites from having to pay anything for providing their 'services' as long as those 'services' are free.
Once the line of paying for 'duplicated' (which is what it really is) music is on the table, all bets are off as that is illegal. Which funny enough is exactly what iTunes, etc, do, except they pay small royalties to the label/artist for being able to 'duplicate' the music.
Something I read somewhere, "For those who feel that downloading of music (to listen to on your mp3 player) is stealing... Do you think the libraries are complicit in allowing people to steal by not buying the books they read?"Comment
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Re: Google Music
If people want to download illegally then they will. Nothing anybody says will change their mind. They'll justify it in someway, shape or form.
Comparing books to digital 3-minute songs is apples and oranges.
The case and ruling was concerned about additional royalties, not existing ones. There is no way a court would ever rule that downloading songs without compensation is in anyway legal.
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Re: Google Music
I would like to say that I am not for or against illegal downloading and I agree with the first part of your statement, that yes if someone wants to, they will.
On the Books/Music, it was something I read somewhere, and was wondering thoughts on it. Most libraries buy the books and some actually PAY the authors to be able to lend them - and that is called Public Lending Right.
In others it is covered by laws that let them do so - in the USA it is the law of first purchase - but it specifically does not apply to electronic information - and it is a matter of considerable debate.
I think its a highly interesting debate and can see both sides well. I agree with being able to do with what I purchased but at the same time I can see the artists side (not the labels). I see the future of music/books being released by artist/writers personally and not through a huge media mogul. With the way technology is increasingly getting easier and easier for anyone to get anything (social media, etc) I foresee artist/writers having there own 'cloud' so to speak, where people can go and support them directly.
Of course you will always have piracy, but I think more people would be more willing to purchase directly, knowing that their money is going to them than purchasing a CD/digital copy from a 3rd party or Label.Last edited by chia51; 10-12-2011, 02:10 PM.Comment
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Re: Google Music
Started uploading my music on 28 June. Just got done uploading everything this weekend. Of the 15,726 songs in my iTunes, Google accepted 12,623 of them.Through music, you can live forever...TEAMS: San Diego Chargers, San Diego Padres, Notre Dame Fighting IrishComment
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