American Horror Story

[fistofrage]

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Why isn't Tate ever communicating with Constance if that's his mother? Only time I remember them being together was at the end of episode 3 (maybe episode 2) they are in the basement with the Maid and they are looking at the dead bodies.

She wants to, but Tate doesn't want anything to do with her. Remember when Tate was in therapy he was talking about his mom doing some things with the neighbor guy. Not sure if that was before or after killing her husband. She might have buried the husband and told young Tate that the Dad ran away.

Either way, Tate was pretty clear in therapy that he hates his mother. Constance waved to him in the window and he just backed away. She wants to communicate, he doesn't.

[Brandwin]

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She wants to, but Tate doesn't want anything to do with her. Remember when Tate was in therapy he was talking about his mom doing some things with the neighbor guy. Not sure if that was before or after killing her husband. She might have buried the husband and told young Tate that the Dad ran away.

Either way, Tate was pretty clear in therapy that he hates his mother. Constance waved to him in the window and he just backed away. She wants to communicate, he doesn't.

That's right. Thanks. So much going on in this show.

I wonder why or when, Tate's dad will show up?

[Pared]

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Maybe Tate's father is leather face and that's how he was killed.

[Jr.]

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Reading through everyone's comments is pretty cool. You can tell how many different paths the writers can take this show and all of the different possibilities for the rest of this season.

[soltrain]

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This is like me and my wife's new LOST. So much debate.

[fistofrage]

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This is like me and my wife's new LOST. So much debate.

Thats exactly why I am apprehensive about them making this multiple seasons. Look at how well this season is progressing with major reveals every week and hopefully a clear vision.

Once Lost was renewed for multiple seasons, they started making filler episodes where there was much ado about nothing, 50 minutes of meaningless runs through the jungle. The story became disjointed as they tried to string the series out and in the end, they took what was probably an excellent story line and ended up with some story that that left me pretty much shaking my head despite the first season being probably the best television series I ever watched.

[Brandwin]

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So it was Hayden's hand that reached out from under the bed.

Spoiler

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/02/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-halloween-part-2/

SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED THE MOST RECENT AMERICAN HORROR STORY! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!
Tonight was the wrap-up to American Horror Story’s two-part Halloween installment, and viewers learned more about the dark past of Tate (Evan Peters). It appears that the school shooting fantasies plaguing Tate were not a dream but a reality, and his victims came calling for a little payback (or at least recognition of the heinous thing he had done). Plus, Constance (Jessica Lange) admitted to Violet that Tate was one of her children! EW talked to co-creator Ryan Murphy about tonight’s episode, and what’s in store for next week’s hour, titled “Piggy Piggy.” I’m scared already.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Whose hands are that under the bed that reach out for Violet? Is that someone new? Or is that the infantata?
RYAN MURPHY: No it’s supposed to be Hayden who is in the house. The clue is the muddy hand.
It seems like there’s some sexual tension between Vivien and Luke — will that progress?
Hmmmm. Hmmmm. I definitely think based on that scene you can see that there is an interesting connection there. And I think women are like, “F— you Dylan McDermott for cheating. Give Connie Britton some time!” Although it’s a very interesting concept: a five or six month pregnant woman who cheats. Although I think he has it coming. We haven’t really resolved that yet or figured out what we’re doing.
American Horror Story: Get the latest news, photos, and more
A big part of the episode was Tate. Are we to believe the school shooting dream that Tate had was a reality?
Yes.
And those dead kids are the ones he shot in the high school?
Yes.
Will we find out his motives for doing that?
Yes. I think this episode introduces those people and the episode that follows we explore more of that.
Basically, I assumed that Tate is also dead but he doesn’t seem to know it. Will that be explained.
Yes you do find out why.
Do you think Hayden and the infantata talked while they were both in the basement?
[Laughs] I think they do chat off camera.
If Larry killed his family in the house, why haven’t we seen them yet?
You will. It’s coming up.
Are Chad and Patrick returning?
Yes they come in two episodes from now in an episode called “Rubber Man.”
Why is Chad so mad?
I think there’s a great sadness that Zach [Quinto] plays to somebody who sort of gave everything to something, be it the house or a relationship, and then it doesn’t turn out to your preconceived notions. I think he plays that frustration well. I also love his connection to Vivien in that he and Vivien are both with sex addicts. So there’s great pain and frustration to loving somebody with that situation and also like, “Why do you stay?” I think he created this world of beauty and comfort and hopefully children in the future and so I like the rage of it.
Was Tate aware that Adelaide was his sister?
Oh yes.
How will Constance keep this a secret from him?
Yes I think she will have a lot of explaining to do in upcoming episodes.
So give us a preview of next week’s episode, “Piggy Piggy.”
“Piggy Piggy” is a really fun one for me, it’s also a horrifying one because one of the things the show deals with is the “American horrors” that we deal with in our culture. Certainly, kids and violence is one of them. So the opening is beyond tense and very upsetting where we see the true story of Tate. Then, Eric Stonestreet comes on as a patient who is paralyzed by urban myths and legends like Bloody Mary. It’s a pivotal one in the run of the show. It’s sort of half-way there and we deal with all these questions about Tate that we have been dealing with so I think it’s very momentous. What does he know? What doesn’t he know? Why he did what he did? What does Violet find out about what he did? It’s all that in there.
You just cast Mena Suvari and she’s playing the Black Dahlia from the 1940s?
Yes.
Is she involved in the flashbacks with Dr. Montgomery?
Yes. The interesting thing about that is there were over 60 people to step forward to say, “I was the killer of the Black Dahlia” so we wanna tell people what really happened to the Black Dahlia. You know it had to do with the f—ed up house!

[Fresh Tendrils]

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So it was Hayden's hand that reached out from under the bed.

Spoiler

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/02/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-halloween-part-2/

SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED THE MOST RECENT AMERICAN HORROR STORY! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!
Tonight was the wrap-up to American Horror Story’s two-part Halloween installment, and viewers learned more about the dark past of Tate (Evan Peters). It appears that the school shooting fantasies plaguing Tate were not a dream but a reality, and his victims came calling for a little payback (or at least recognition of the heinous thing he had done). Plus, Constance (Jessica Lange) admitted to Violet that Tate was one of her children! EW talked to co-creator Ryan Murphy about tonight’s episode, and what’s in store for next week’s hour, titled “Piggy Piggy.” I’m scared already.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Whose hands are that under the bed that reach out for Violet? Is that someone new? Or is that the infantata?
RYAN MURPHY: No it’s supposed to be Hayden who is in the house. The clue is the muddy hand.
It seems like there’s some sexual tension between Vivien and Luke — will that progress?
Hmmmm. Hmmmm. I definitely think based on that scene you can see that there is an interesting connection there. And I think women are like, “F— you Dylan McDermott for cheating. Give Connie Britton some time!” Although it’s a very interesting concept: a five or six month pregnant woman who cheats. Although I think he has it coming. We haven’t really resolved that yet or figured out what we’re doing.
American Horror Story: Get the latest news, photos, and more
A big part of the episode was Tate. Are we to believe the school shooting dream that Tate had was a reality?
Yes.
And those dead kids are the ones he shot in the high school?
Yes.
Will we find out his motives for doing that?
Yes. I think this episode introduces those people and the episode that follows we explore more of that.
Basically, I assumed that Tate is also dead but he doesn’t seem to know it. Will that be explained.
Yes you do find out why.
Do you think Hayden and the infantata talked while they were both in the basement?
[Laughs] I think they do chat off camera.
If Larry killed his family in the house, why haven’t we seen them yet?
You will. It’s coming up.
Are Chad and Patrick returning?
Yes they come in two episodes from now in an episode called “Rubber Man.”
Why is Chad so mad?
I think there’s a great sadness that Zach [Quinto] plays to somebody who sort of gave everything to something, be it the house or a relationship, and then it doesn’t turn out to your preconceived notions. I think he plays that frustration well. I also love his connection to Vivien in that he and Vivien are both with sex addicts. So there’s great pain and frustration to loving somebody with that situation and also like, “Why do you stay?” I think he created this world of beauty and comfort and hopefully children in the future and so I like the rage of it.
Was Tate aware that Adelaide was his sister?
Oh yes.
How will Constance keep this a secret from him?
Yes I think she will have a lot of explaining to do in upcoming episodes.
So give us a preview of next week’s episode, “Piggy Piggy.”
“Piggy Piggy” is a really fun one for me, it’s also a horrifying one because one of the things the show deals with is the “American horrors” that we deal with in our culture. Certainly, kids and violence is one of them. So the opening is beyond tense and very upsetting where we see the true story of Tate. Then, Eric Stonestreet comes on as a patient who is paralyzed by urban myths and legends like Bloody Mary. It’s a pivotal one in the run of the show. It’s sort of half-way there and we deal with all these questions about Tate that we have been dealing with so I think it’s very momentous. What does he know? What doesn’t he know? Why he did what he did? What does Violet find out about what he did? It’s all that in there.
You just cast Mena Suvari and she’s playing the Black Dahlia from the 1940s?
Yes.
Is she involved in the flashbacks with Dr. Montgomery?
Yes. The interesting thing about that is there were over 60 people to step forward to say, “I was the killer of the Black Dahlia” so we wanna tell people what really happened to the Black Dahlia. You know it had to do with the f—ed up house!

That's what I thought. I don't think Addie is coming back.

[Brandwin]

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That's what I thought. I don't think Addie is coming back.

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This kind of sucks to me, as I liked Addie. She was creepy showing up in the house out of nowhere.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/26/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-death/

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I think the biggest shock is that Addy is killed off. Why do that?
RYAN MURPHY: Well, I think it was very important to the Jessica Lange character and you’ll see coming up, once her beloved child is taken away, she needs another child in her life, and the question is, Will that be Vivian’s child? And I also love the commentary that the writers came up with that only in death does Jessica Lange and the other characters realize that this girl was beautiful all along and, in fact, a very pretty girl. I love what that says about the world and I thought it was very powerful.
Is Addy definitely gone or will we see her ghost?
No, I think she was dead before she got to the spot.

[Brandwin]

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Here's a good point I didn't really connect concering Tate being a ghost. I read this on another message board.

Yep, when he referenced Cobain, Pacino, De Niro and Tarantino, I knew dude was like an early 90s kid who was stuck in that mindset. Good indicator from the writers that he is actually dead.

If Tate was 18 and the high school girl said she should be 34, that would make the murders in the range of 94-96, which would be correct with the 90's references.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Here's a good point I didn't really connect concering Tate being a ghost. I read this on another message board.



If Tate was 18 and the high school girl said she should be 34, that would make the murders in the range of 94-96, which would be correct with the 90's references.

I think we know he's a ghost, but I don't think he does.

[Brandwin]

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I think we know he's a ghost, but I don't think he does.

Was it just a coincidence he told Violet he would take her out on Halloween then, when he was able to roam free?

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Was it just a coincidence he told Violet he would take her out on Halloween then, when he was able to roam free?

I think he is aware somewhat, but it seems like he suppresses that knowledge as much as possible, which includes supressing what he did to those kids.

[Brandwin]

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I think he is aware somewhat, but it seems like he suppresses that knowledge as much as possible, which includes supressing what he did to those kids.

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We might find out this week how he died. Either by suicide or he was shot by police as it looks like police rush the house and you hear Constance yelling, don't hurt him.

[goh]

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But a few episodes ago didn't the dad meet Tate out in a park somewhere?

That was last weeks episode thus being Halloween.
They should've cleared some time and aired the episodes back to back last week as a movie. Part 2 is actually only 40 minutes instead of the normal 50 so it appears that's what it was supposed to be.

I agree with everyone else,that was a fantastic episode.
We also found out for sure Violet is needed for something as Tate refused to have sex with her. Which should also prove Tate is a ghost.

That episode is going to be hard to top.