Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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And that's what he told me in the spoilers...LOL. And it would be pretty easy for me to not see spoilers. Don't play games online that much and if I do I can easily mute. Don't follow any people on Twitter that could spoil the movie, same goes for Facebook. And I am pretty much waiting for my website to get it uploaded so I can download it and then watch it later.

I had it spoiled because I clicked on an ESPN tweet and the first response was somebody spoiling it. Movie hadn't even premiered yet lol.

[ChaseB]

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I think there's still a decent chance that Rey is:
1. A child that was conceived by the Force like Anakin.

In response to just that little tidbit:

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NO! NO NO NO! I swear to god if they do immaculate conception again, I'll be none too pleased. The rule of thumb should basically be: if George thought it seemed like a grand idea in the prequels then it's probably a bad idea.

[War Eagle!]

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My theory on Snoke that I have nothing but Marvel mythos to backup:

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Snoke as he exists now is a pure manifestation of the dark side, the coalesced will of the Vader and Emperor (or even more, could be what makes the dark side truly evil, and is the source of corrupted jedi and others over the ages and Vader/Emperor were just 2 'victims') and he intended to train Kylo Ren to the point that he can either use him as a vessel or as a subordinate to find him a vessel when he's ready.

This comes from a story in X-Men where the evil of Magneto and Professor Xavier were expelled from their monds, and then later on returned as a being called Onslaught

Either way, I hope his origin is at least half as interesting as that and I'd be surprised if he doesn't somehow have ties to the prior movies.

Sounds like Orochimaru from Nartuo.

[Candyman5]

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Going to see it in about a hour!!!!

Are there any after credit scenes?

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[Dogslax41]

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I think Snoke is

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Darth Plagueis. His appearance looks like he had a very near brush with death and is ancient. His face scar did look like it could be a lightening burn. It would also give some explanation why the Empire/First Order chose to use another "starkiller" as he and Palpatine could have had the same plan on eradicating the resistance/rebellion.

I think over the next two the focus on family is going to bring the story full circle. Plagueis created the Skywalker line with Anakin. Now (at least as far as they are showing) all remaining Jedi have the same "bloodline" if you look at Plagueis as Anakin's father. He's been trying to use Ben to eliminate the Jedi and reform the First Order into a second Empire. And I think at the same time forcing him fully to the dark side and this "final training" is going to be an essence transfer where he takes over Ben's body as his new vessel and essentially fulfilling Han's warning about doing Snoke's bidding and then being thrown away.

[thaima1shu]

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Going to see it in about a hour!!!!

Are there any after credit scenes?

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Nope, nothing during or afterwards.

[jfsolo]

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Going to see it in about a hour!!!!

Are there any after credit scenes?

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I was glad that J.J. told us beforehand straight out that there weren't going to be any post credit scenes, so that I knew to leave the theater right away instead of waiting like all the other people in my showing.

[DonkeyJote]

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Regarding Supreme Leader:

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I think the Supreme Leader might be the character I'm most curious about. My theory is that Kylo Ren was too young to overthrow the Jedi Academy on his own (if I'm doing the math right, he was likely around 10 years old at the time). I think Snoke may have been a teacher at the academy or something that got Ren to turn, and the two of them overthrew the academy together and fled.

I'm also very curious to find out what happened to Snoke considering it looks like something pretty horrific happened to his face. Also, if I recall it correctly, they mentioned something about how Snoke is only using Ren until he gets the power he needs and then he'll discard Ren or something like that. That line/Snoke's face made me think of Voldemort before he got his body/power back; that something horrific happened to Snoke that has left him deformed and while still powerful in the force, not PHYSICALLY powerful at the moment. I think he may betray Ren at some point and become the ultimate bad guy that Rey, Finn, etc. are trying to defeat.

Regarding Rey:

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Like you, I've crossed Han/Leia's daughter off the list. I think Luke seems the most likely still, but I agree that it feels like they were trying to make it too obvious. I also have a problem with the timeline that would be involved for Rey to be his daughter. Given the fact that she appears to be roughly 18-20 years old, the fact that she was abandoned at 5, and the fact that this movie takes place 30 years after ROTJ, this means that in the 15 years after ROTJ:

- Luke starts the Jedi Academy up again.
- Luke meets a woman, decides that it's okay to act on his love for her.
- Impregnates her
- Actually has the child (Rey)
- Begins teaching her the ways of the Force up until she's 5, at which point Ren destroyed everything and probably killed the mother.
- Luke dumps Rey off on Jakku either with someone who has also been killed or completely abandoned as a 5 year old.

This would also mean that they're introducing us to a mother that nobody has ever heard of before, which is fine, but just doesn't feel right to me.

At any rate, I think it's possible that Rey is Luke's kid, and I certainly think they WANT us to think that's the case, but it feels a little sloppy to me.

I think there's still a decent chance that Rey is:
1. A child that was conceived by the Force like Anakin.
2. Related to some less-obvious Star Wars character.

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I think it's obvious Rey is a direct descendant of Luke and Anakin, simply because the way their lightsaber reacted to her, and what Maz Katana said.

Funny enough, most of the twists in this movie I had predicted going in. Figured either Han or Chewie, likely Han, would die. I guessed that both Rey and Kylo Ren were the children of Han and Leia. I assumed Rey would learn the force (even before Harrison Ford kinda spoiled that). Still a great movie, and there were a lot of similares with New Hope, but the characters and pacing were way different.

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[fistofrage]

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Is it really necessary to still use spoiler tags? If you haven't seen it yet, there is no reason to be coming into the thread.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I keep seeing this comment around the internet and chuckle as a tear falls from my eye:

Han should have shot first.

[kt-od]

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I think Snoke is

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Darth Plagueis.

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I told my wife the same thing, now after reading the book. I'm not quite finished, but I bet he never died.

[TripleCrown9]

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I think I'm gonna go see this tonight in IMAX 3D. Never seen an IMAX movie, so why not, right?

[Boltman]

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I think Snoke is

He is

I told my wife the same thing

And he didn't.


I agree with both of you for the same reasons.

[AshamanCarnage]

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I think I'm gonna go see this tonight in IMAX 3D. Never seen an IMAX movie, so why not, right?

I saw it last night in IMAX for the first time, definitely an amazing experience.

[Candyman5]

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So about Finn

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Anyone else think that he may have some connection to the force as well. I mean the way he handled the lightsaber and the way he got snapped out of being a storm trooper is odd. Not to mention Ren takes notice of him during this in the beginning then him and the Emperor say about an awakening happening.

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